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	<title>Comments on: Oh, Hell No, Bitches</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: J.h.</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/07/oh-hell-no-bitches/#comment-126643</link>
		<dc:creator>J.h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually went to a military funeral near Fort Hood today, and held a flag in line with the Patriot Guard Riders. An absolutely amazing and solemn experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually went to a military funeral near Fort Hood today, and held a flag in line with the Patriot Guard Riders. An absolutely amazing and solemn experience.</p>
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		<title>By: jtwurth</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/07/oh-hell-no-bitches/#comment-125363</link>
		<dc:creator>jtwurth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could a case be made that these wackjobs are mentally abusing their children by bringing them up in a volatile environment filled with what is considered by many to be almost psychotic behavior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could a case be made that these wackjobs are mentally abusing their children by bringing them up in a volatile environment filled with what is considered by many to be almost psychotic behavior?</p>
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		<title>By: terri</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/07/oh-hell-no-bitches/#comment-125355</link>
		<dc:creator>terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best thing anyone could do is boycott Phelps&#039; funeral - to emphasize how useless he was, rather than stage a huge protest for such a sick man. I am surprised, however, that there haven&#039;t been more &quot;incidents&quot; against them around soldiers&#039; funerals. The Patriot Guard Riders have done a great service, but I&#039;m pretty sure that if one of my extended family died in the Middle East and these fuckers showed up, something would happen before, or certainly after, the funeral... At a minimum, they&#039;d have car issues well before they got to town. Maybe we, as a nation, are getting better at acceptance of Constitutional Rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing anyone could do is boycott Phelps&#8217; funeral &#8211; to emphasize how useless he was, rather than stage a huge protest for such a sick man. I am surprised, however, that there haven&#8217;t been more &#8220;incidents&#8221; against them around soldiers&#8217; funerals. The Patriot Guard Riders have done a great service, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that if one of my extended family died in the Middle East and these fuckers showed up, something would happen before, or certainly after, the funeral&#8230; At a minimum, they&#8217;d have car issues well before they got to town. Maybe we, as a nation, are getting better at acceptance of Constitutional Rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eshto, you said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Few straight people outside the local community gave a rip when Phelps was protesting Matthew Shephard and other dead faggots.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Straight people only became concerned when they started picketing soldiers’ funerals (none of which were gay, to my knowledge).&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
I understand your frustration, Eshto but please don&#039;t let that frustration turn to resentment against your straight allies.  We have been here long before Phelps.  There were four gay people in my family and they were entirely part of the family without any condition.  They are all now deceased. I saw what they went through every day of their courageous lives and I have worked against the discrimination I saw against them all my life.  I have faced down bigots, donated money, campaigned against political candidates, written letters and been the only &quot;straight guy&quot; in protest efforts.  Phelps is evil equally for his homophobia and his cruelty to straight soldiers&#039; families, and you&#039;re right he&#039;s only a tiny part of what must be opposed.  More straight people work to oppose it than you know.
 
Yes, the majority of Americans still vote the way Phelps probably does, but it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;just barely&lt;/em&gt; a majority.  As you pointed out it&#039;s about half.  Every day it gets weaker and you do have genuine friends in the straight community, not just people outraged by Phelp&#039;s victimizing of straight people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eshto, you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Few straight people outside the local community gave a rip when Phelps was protesting Matthew Shephard and other dead faggots.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Straight people only became concerned when they started picketing soldiers’ funerals (none of which were gay, to my knowledge).</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand your frustration, Eshto but please don&#8217;t let that frustration turn to resentment against your straight allies.  We have been here long before Phelps.  There were four gay people in my family and they were entirely part of the family without any condition.  They are all now deceased. I saw what they went through every day of their courageous lives and I have worked against the discrimination I saw against them all my life.  I have faced down bigots, donated money, campaigned against political candidates, written letters and been the only &#8220;straight guy&#8221; in protest efforts.  Phelps is evil equally for his homophobia and his cruelty to straight soldiers&#8217; families, and you&#8217;re right he&#8217;s only a tiny part of what must be opposed.  More straight people work to oppose it than you know.</p>
<p>Yes, the majority of Americans still vote the way Phelps probably does, but it&#8217;s <em>just barely</em> a majority.  As you pointed out it&#8217;s about half.  Every day it gets weaker and you do have genuine friends in the straight community, not just people outraged by Phelp&#8217;s victimizing of straight people.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/07/oh-hell-no-bitches/#comment-125256</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So do they also picket the funerals of dead Westboro church members?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You beat me to it, Craig.  Fred looks like he&#039;s getting old, unless a steady diet of hate is what does that.  When he dies (hopefully today) will his minions have a hate fest over his corpse too, saying that he&#039;s burning in hell along with the others he has condemned?  He&#039;s part of America too.  Or is being a disciple of hate the way into heaven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So do they also picket the funerals of dead Westboro church members?</p></blockquote>
<p>You beat me to it, Craig.  Fred looks like he&#8217;s getting old, unless a steady diet of hate is what does that.  When he dies (hopefully today) will his minions have a hate fest over his corpse too, saying that he&#8217;s burning in hell along with the others he has condemned?  He&#8217;s part of America too.  Or is being a disciple of hate the way into heaven?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Notice the parenthetical. What do you want to bet that he said something a bit more descriptive?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:-) I had exactly the same thought, Siamang! Too bad they couldn&#039;t print exactly what he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Notice the parenthetical. What do you want to bet that he said something a bit more descriptive?</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I had exactly the same thought, Siamang! Too bad they couldn&#8217;t print exactly what he said.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitches?!?

Sorry Hemant but it kind of takes the thunder out of your outrage when you call a group of bigots &quot;bitches&quot; seeing as it&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;a term commonly used to degenerate women when it&#039;s not being used to impugn the masculinity of (other) men&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitches?!?</p>
<p>Sorry Hemant but it kind of takes the thunder out of your outrage when you call a group of bigots &#8220;bitches&#8221; seeing as it&#8217;s <strong>a term commonly used to degenerate women when it&#8217;s not being used to impugn the masculinity of (other) men</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do they also picket the funerals of dead Westboro church members?
If they don&#039;t, maybe we can! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do they also picket the funerals of dead Westboro church members?<br />
If they don&#8217;t, maybe we can! <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eshto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eshto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone already posted the phagsforphelps website.

America does not generally support the gays.  Few straight people outside the local community gave a rip when Phelps was protesting Matthew Shephard and other dead faggots.

Straight people only became concerned when they started picketing soldiers&#039; funerals (none of which were gay, to my knowledge).

Everyone acts outraged, and yet real gay soldiers are still getting kicked out of the army (even after getting purple hearts) under Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell, and lawmakers are still fighting tooth and nail against hate crime legislation, against the ENDA law which would prohibit workplace discrimination, against gay marriage rights - and mainstream America is still voting in favor of all this anti-gay legislation.

At least half of America votes the exact same way that Phelps probably does - against gay rights.  So forget about Phelps, he&#039;s not the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone already posted the phagsforphelps website.</p>
<p>America does not generally support the gays.  Few straight people outside the local community gave a rip when Phelps was protesting Matthew Shephard and other dead faggots.</p>
<p>Straight people only became concerned when they started picketing soldiers&#8217; funerals (none of which were gay, to my knowledge).</p>
<p>Everyone acts outraged, and yet real gay soldiers are still getting kicked out of the army (even after getting purple hearts) under Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell, and lawmakers are still fighting tooth and nail against hate crime legislation, against the ENDA law which would prohibit workplace discrimination, against gay marriage rights &#8211; and mainstream America is still voting in favor of all this anti-gay legislation.</p>
<p>At least half of America votes the exact same way that Phelps probably does &#8211; against gay rights.  So forget about Phelps, he&#8217;s not the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Phelps think if America outlawed homosexuality, nobody would ever die again?</description>
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