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	<title>Comments on: Gods We Don&#8217;t Believe In</title>
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		<title>By: Rafael Lins</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/11/gods-we-dont-believe-in/#comment-790313</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Lins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haters gonna hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haters gonna hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that Buddha did not see himself as a God, but that has not stopped SOME branches of the buddhist belief to regard him as one, that either took the form of a man or became one after the enlightement. So even if the majority of buddhist do not regard him as a god, he still should be on the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that Buddha did not see himself as a God, but that has not stopped SOME branches of the buddhist belief to regard him as one, that either took the form of a man or became one after the enlightement. So even if the majority of buddhist do not regard him as a god, he still should be on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: dlskjfklsadjl</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlskjfklsadjl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 06:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like how everyone is arguing about buddha. as if the creator of this list is going to be like, &quot;oh fuck, you&#039;re right! guess god does exist...&quot; i call the buddha question unrelated. take buddha off both sides, or don&#039;t. it has nothing to do with the point of this list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like how everyone is arguing about buddha. as if the creator of this list is going to be like, &#8220;oh fuck, you&#8217;re right! guess god does exist&#8230;&#8221; i call the buddha question unrelated. take buddha off both sides, or don&#8217;t. it has nothing to do with the point of this list.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhoneCini</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhoneCini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, it pains me how complicated and pedantic discussions about evolution can get, especially when it’s clear one person has no idea what they are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, it pains me how complicated and pedantic discussions about evolution can get, especially when it’s clear one person has no idea what they are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@attic

We know, but thanks for the reminder.  OTOH, it is not only &quot;some Western Buddhists&quot; who do not believe that the Buddha is a god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@attic</p>
<p>We know, but thanks for the reminder.  OTOH, it is not only &#8220;some Western Buddhists&#8221; who do not believe that the Buddha is a god.</p>
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		<title>By: attic</title>
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		<dc:creator>attic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, just because some western Buddhists don&#039;t consider Buddha to be a god, that doesn&#039;t mean that ALL Buddhists consider Buddha not to be a god. In China, for example, the English word Buddha is used to refer to tons of different deities/spirits/people/whatever, which are prayed to, and not just to that first intelligent guy from Nepal. 
There are as many different sects of Buddhism as there are denominations of Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, just because some western Buddhists don&#8217;t consider Buddha to be a god, that doesn&#8217;t mean that ALL Buddhists consider Buddha not to be a god. In China, for example, the English word Buddha is used to refer to tons of different deities/spirits/people/whatever, which are prayed to, and not just to that first intelligent guy from Nepal.<br />
There are as many different sects of Buddhism as there are denominations of Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Atheism is Not a Religion &#124; Godless Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atheism is Not a Religion &#124; Godless Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jews, and Muslims (for example) are also atheists. Do they believe in Baal? Nope. Helios? No. Lotan? No. Yahweh? Well, yes; that&#8217;s the only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jews, and Muslims (for example) are also atheists. Do they believe in Baal? Nope. Helios? No. Lotan? No. Yahweh? Well, yes; that&#8217;s the only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 18:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my response:

http://thoughtfulfaith.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/allah-thor-possiedon-and-zeus/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my response:</p>
<p><a href="http://thoughtfulfaith.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/allah-thor-possiedon-and-zeus/" rel="nofollow">http://thoughtfulfaith.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/allah-thor-possiedon-and-zeus/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Foulkes</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/02/11/gods-we-dont-believe-in/#comment-392426</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Foulkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reading.

Yet the main points seem to get missed for one reason or another either drowned out by semantics (was Buddha a God or wasn&#039;t he? - this is hardly the point) or a simple lack of knowledge.

The original point is quite humorous, it is a humorous way of pointing out to religious people (it can be applied to all religions not just Christianity) who fervently believe in THEIR god and no other, and to give them a way of seeing how their belief (blind faith) appears to a non-believer as they too are non-believers in those other gods. 

Obviously there IS a world of difference between believing in one or any god and no gods at all, one is theistic and the other atheistic, no one is suggesting that a religious person has 99% in common with a religious person (well i don&#039;t think so any way).

Another big misconception is to try and level science and rationality with a faith belief system / religion.  Science is not a faith system and &#039;believing&#039; in once scientific theory over another cannot be compared to faith in a religion.  

For those of religious faith who talk of evolution like it was some vague imaginary concept with little to support it - go read up on the evidence - it is massive, an edifice, fossils are a negligible part of it, comparative studies of genetics and other branches of molecular biology, physiology and biochemistry form a huge portion of the evidence as does embryology morphology statistics and mathematical modeling, the growing fossil record is the icing on the cake. 

Just because science has not explained everything yet does not mean it can be compared to a faith system which has NO evidence and does not even attempt to make progress towards the truth year on year, century after century because by definition it believes it has reached the truth through it&#039;s faith.

Science may never find all the answers but it will not stop in it&#039;s endeavour until it does, and nowhere along the road of scientific discovery has anything been found to corroborate religious beliefs of a deity, or god induced &#039;creation&#039;.  In fact a good chunk of what is claimed in the bible and other religeous texts has been debunked by science completely.  

Many modern religious people now say that the bible shouldn&#039;t be taken literally - in order accommodate these discoveries.  Hmmm... where will this process end?  Not taking the bible as the word of god perhaps? 

Anyone who has been interested enough to read so far, thank you and you might find this blog interesting too: -

http://blog.case.edu/singham/

P.S.  I understand that Christianity is supposed to be monotheistic.  So was the God of the old testament the same as god the father in the new testament and who is the holy ghost? and who was Jesus?  was he a god? or the same god incarnate and why the personality change?  I mean Gentle Jesus meek and mild vs. the blood thirsty tyrant of the OT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading.</p>
<p>Yet the main points seem to get missed for one reason or another either drowned out by semantics (was Buddha a God or wasn&#8217;t he? &#8211; this is hardly the point) or a simple lack of knowledge.</p>
<p>The original point is quite humorous, it is a humorous way of pointing out to religious people (it can be applied to all religions not just Christianity) who fervently believe in THEIR god and no other, and to give them a way of seeing how their belief (blind faith) appears to a non-believer as they too are non-believers in those other gods. </p>
<p>Obviously there IS a world of difference between believing in one or any god and no gods at all, one is theistic and the other atheistic, no one is suggesting that a religious person has 99% in common with a religious person (well i don&#8217;t think so any way).</p>
<p>Another big misconception is to try and level science and rationality with a faith belief system / religion.  Science is not a faith system and &#8216;believing&#8217; in once scientific theory over another cannot be compared to faith in a religion.  </p>
<p>For those of religious faith who talk of evolution like it was some vague imaginary concept with little to support it &#8211; go read up on the evidence &#8211; it is massive, an edifice, fossils are a negligible part of it, comparative studies of genetics and other branches of molecular biology, physiology and biochemistry form a huge portion of the evidence as does embryology morphology statistics and mathematical modeling, the growing fossil record is the icing on the cake. </p>
<p>Just because science has not explained everything yet does not mean it can be compared to a faith system which has NO evidence and does not even attempt to make progress towards the truth year on year, century after century because by definition it believes it has reached the truth through it&#8217;s faith.</p>
<p>Science may never find all the answers but it will not stop in it&#8217;s endeavour until it does, and nowhere along the road of scientific discovery has anything been found to corroborate religious beliefs of a deity, or god induced &#8216;creation&#8217;.  In fact a good chunk of what is claimed in the bible and other religeous texts has been debunked by science completely.  </p>
<p>Many modern religious people now say that the bible shouldn&#8217;t be taken literally &#8211; in order accommodate these discoveries.  Hmmm&#8230; where will this process end?  Not taking the bible as the word of god perhaps? </p>
<p>Anyone who has been interested enough to read so far, thank you and you might find this blog interesting too: -</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.case.edu/singham/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.case.edu/singham/</a></p>
<p>P.S.  I understand that Christianity is supposed to be monotheistic.  So was the God of the old testament the same as god the father in the new testament and who is the holy ghost? and who was Jesus?  was he a god? or the same god incarnate and why the personality change?  I mean Gentle Jesus meek and mild vs. the blood thirsty tyrant of the OT?</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Buddha
A nobleman once visited Buddha and asked him if he was a god.
Buddha replied &quot;No&quot;
Asked if he was a saint, He replied &quot;No&quot;
Asked &quot; What are you then?&quot;Buddha replied,&quot; Awake&quot;
That is essential Buddhism. The rest is superstition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Buddha<br />
A nobleman once visited Buddha and asked him if he was a god.<br />
Buddha replied &#8220;No&#8221;<br />
Asked if he was a saint, He replied &#8220;No&#8221;<br />
Asked &#8221; What are you then?&#8221;Buddha replied,&#8221; Awake&#8221;<br />
That is essential Buddhism. The rest is superstition</p>
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