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	<title>Comments on: You Have to Play the Game</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/04/15/you-have-to-play-the-game/#comment-154288</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You articulated beautifully my own feelings on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You articulated beautifully my own feelings on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/04/15/you-have-to-play-the-game/#comment-153768</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree in principle with your article, I don&#039;t follow your assertion that Obama has atheistic tendencies. I think Obama is certainly more rational than any politician running for president has been since the founding days, but from statements he has given and from his history it appears to me that he is perhaps more of a deist than even an agnostic or atheist. Regardless, I think he is probably a spiritual guy in the sense that he actually tries to seek truth rather than believing literally in what some book tells him - despite what he may tell this congregation or that congregation. It is this quality that will make him a good president for not only America, but for the world at large - atheist or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree in principle with your article, I don&#8217;t follow your assertion that Obama has atheistic tendencies. I think Obama is certainly more rational than any politician running for president has been since the founding days, but from statements he has given and from his history it appears to me that he is perhaps more of a deist than even an agnostic or atheist. Regardless, I think he is probably a spiritual guy in the sense that he actually tries to seek truth rather than believing literally in what some book tells him &#8211; despite what he may tell this congregation or that congregation. It is this quality that will make him a good president for not only America, but for the world at large &#8211; atheist or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Deep down, and for no real rational reason, I don’t think he’s all that religious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How is that any different than a large percentage of &quot;Christians&quot; out there?

&lt;blockquote&gt;There’s nothing “elitist” in his remarks. It’s just that the atheist side of him accidentally spoke up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The atheist side? :-)   I believe even most of the true believers have &quot;the atheist side,&quot; however small, that pokes through now and again when they&#039;re not paying attention.  It really gets annoying, sometimes. ;)

I also agree with what Miller said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Deep down, and for no real rational reason, I don’t think he’s all that religious.</p></blockquote>
<p>How is that any different than a large percentage of &#8220;Christians&#8221; out there?</p>
<blockquote><p>There’s nothing “elitist” in his remarks. It’s just that the atheist side of him accidentally spoke up.</p></blockquote>
<p>The atheist side? <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    I believe even most of the true believers have &#8220;the atheist side,&#8221; however small, that pokes through now and again when they&#8217;re not paying attention.  It really gets annoying, sometimes. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I also agree with what Miller said.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoshH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what &quot;miller&quot; said, pretty much.  I think Obama is in fact a believer, but one who shares a faith that&#039;s more along the lines of Andrew Sullivan&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what &#8220;miller&#8221; said, pretty much.  I think Obama is in fact a believer, but one who shares a faith that&#8217;s more along the lines of Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Hillary knew a young, inexperienced Obama would slip up sooner or later and be honest with people.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL! 

The interesting thing I&#039;m noticing today is that new polls show people weighing in and damn it, a lot of them appreciate his honesty. Even the rural PA folks agree with him - they&#039;ve seen the bitterness and how the GOP exploits it with the god, guns, gay agenda for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Hillary knew a young, inexperienced Obama would slip up sooner or later and be honest with people.”</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL! </p>
<p>The interesting thing I&#8217;m noticing today is that new polls show people weighing in and damn it, a lot of them appreciate his honesty. Even the rural PA folks agree with him &#8211; they&#8217;ve seen the bitterness and how the GOP exploits it with the god, guns, gay agenda for years.</p>
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		<title>By: C. L. Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. L. Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/obama_dogged_by_bitter_remarks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment in the onion&lt;/a&gt; about Obama&#039;s controversial &quot;bitter&quot; remark:

&quot;Hillary knew a young, inexperienced Obama would slip up sooner or later and be honest with people.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/obama_dogged_by_bitter_remarks" rel="nofollow">comment in the onion</a> about Obama&#8217;s controversial &#8220;bitter&#8221; remark:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hillary knew a young, inexperienced Obama would slip up sooner or later and be honest with people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Was going to swim &#171; blueollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Was going to swim &#171; blueollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] performance at the so-called &#8220;Compassion Forum&#8221; for many of the same reasons that I am; yet like me, he accepts it as &#8220;the price of success&#8221; Sometimes, you just play the game even if you don’t really care for it. You do things that you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] performance at the so-called &#8220;Compassion Forum&#8221; for many of the same reasons that I am; yet like me, he accepts it as &#8220;the price of success&#8221; Sometimes, you just play the game even if you don’t really care for it. You do things that you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Secular Dignity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secular Dignity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bellesouth said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;We need to remember that some of our biggest political movements started in churches. Churches fought against slavery, the death penalty, racism. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it is more accurate to say that some churches fought  to end slavery, the death penalty and racism, while others fought to maintain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bellesouth said,</p>
<blockquote><p>We need to remember that some of our biggest political movements started in churches. Churches fought against slavery, the death penalty, racism. </p></blockquote>
<p>I think it is more accurate to say that some churches fought  to end slavery, the death penalty and racism, while others fought to maintain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that this stupid religious pandering will continue.  All I hear this week on conservative talk radio (yes, I keep tabs on the wackos) is how people of faith are being ostracized by the science-minded concensus on evolution or global warming (see Ben Stein&#039;s new film), and how the Democrats are godless, blah, blah.  What does Obama believe?  I don&#039;t care.  I doubt that he&#039;s a fundamentalist, and that&#039;s all that matters to me.  If Huckabee had a shot at the Oval Office, then I care.  

Concerning his comments about rural Pennsylvanians, I don&#039;t know these folks, I&#039;ve never been to that state but once, and then only to Philadelphia.  You can&#039;t stereotype any bunch of people with any accuracy, but I think I know what he was trying to say.  I do know that there are a great many Americans that doubt their government--doubt its effectiveness, its goodness, and whether it cares about them.  They pay their taxes, and obey their laws, and try to do what they think is right, but they don&#039;t feel like they can depend upon government.  They see big problems go unsolved, year after year.  What they know they can depend upon are the values they hold dear, and their traditional way of life, which includes religion and the ownership and use of guns.  A man&#039;s government may lie to him, but his shotgun never does.  He can&#039;t control what Washington does, but he can control his own life.  As to the scapegoating, of course it goes on--some of these folks are so out of touch that they really believe that illegals are the problem!  

I still am amazed at how people can continue to vote against there own interests.  Average Americans are getting marginalized year after year, and yet they fall for the ploys of blaming illegals, or liberals, or gays, or abortionists, or atheists.  Obama should have kept his mouth shut, but you can&#039;t be too hard on a guy who is trying to understand how this state of affairs can persist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that this stupid religious pandering will continue.  All I hear this week on conservative talk radio (yes, I keep tabs on the wackos) is how people of faith are being ostracized by the science-minded concensus on evolution or global warming (see Ben Stein&#8217;s new film), and how the Democrats are godless, blah, blah.  What does Obama believe?  I don&#8217;t care.  I doubt that he&#8217;s a fundamentalist, and that&#8217;s all that matters to me.  If Huckabee had a shot at the Oval Office, then I care.  </p>
<p>Concerning his comments about rural Pennsylvanians, I don&#8217;t know these folks, I&#8217;ve never been to that state but once, and then only to Philadelphia.  You can&#8217;t stereotype any bunch of people with any accuracy, but I think I know what he was trying to say.  I do know that there are a great many Americans that doubt their government&#8211;doubt its effectiveness, its goodness, and whether it cares about them.  They pay their taxes, and obey their laws, and try to do what they think is right, but they don&#8217;t feel like they can depend upon government.  They see big problems go unsolved, year after year.  What they know they can depend upon are the values they hold dear, and their traditional way of life, which includes religion and the ownership and use of guns.  A man&#8217;s government may lie to him, but his shotgun never does.  He can&#8217;t control what Washington does, but he can control his own life.  As to the scapegoating, of course it goes on&#8211;some of these folks are so out of touch that they really believe that illegals are the problem!  </p>
<p>I still am amazed at how people can continue to vote against there own interests.  Average Americans are getting marginalized year after year, and yet they fall for the ploys of blaming illegals, or liberals, or gays, or abortionists, or atheists.  Obama should have kept his mouth shut, but you can&#8217;t be too hard on a guy who is trying to understand how this state of affairs can persist.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post-I&#039;ve had the same thoughts myself, although I wondered if it wasn&#039;t like my gay friend who thought that every good looking guy he saw was also gay...in other words, wishful thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post-I&#8217;ve had the same thoughts myself, although I wondered if it wasn&#8217;t like my gay friend who thought that every good looking guy he saw was also gay&#8230;in other words, wishful thinking!</p>
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