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		<title>By: Friendly Atheist &#187; The Books That Pushed You Toward Atheism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friendly Atheist &#187; The Books That Pushed You Toward Atheism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aquaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aquaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever workbook the teachers provided at the Lutheran school I attended. One of the exercises was sorting out what all the different commandments actually meant. In the back were answers to some questions. I went to look at what that worshipping no other gods answer would say, and it talked about not worshipping other gods because God was a jealous god.

This put me in a dilemma. All my life, family, teachers--all kinds of people, made it clear that jealousy was wrong. Jealousy was a no-no. But here was something telling me god was jealous, and that&#039;s why I had to worship him, as per the Commandment. But there was another commandment that said to honor the father and mother. Now was I supposed to dishonor them by questioning what they had taught me? Or accept what they taught me, and discredit the jealous commandment? Or...

I went round and round with it but in the end asked my mother why jealousy was wrong. She explained it in terms that an 11-year-old (as I was then) could understand, that life wasn&#039;t always fair, that we couldn&#039;t have everything, that what mattered most was being a good person, etc. She made sense. When I asked my teacher why jealousy was wrong, she said basically the same thing. Then when I asked how jealousy could be wrong, but god was jealous, she started in on how it wasn&#039;t right to question god (nice change of subject), that I wasn&#039;t equal to god, etc., etc.

The disconnect was breathtakingly obvious to me, and that started me questioning Christianity. I went to my trusty encyclopedia at home and read about Christianity. It didn&#039;t answer my doubts. Then I saw a listing about Religion in general. I went to it, and learned that there were all these other faiths! I read through them, and they sounded kinda fascinating, but kind of silly too. But, still, that they all were so sure they were right, that they had the answers, had me questioning Christianity further: What if the Hindus were right? Or the Buddhists? Or the Muslims? Or (fill in blank)? What then? Atheism didn&#039;t even enter any of this. It was unheard of, at least by me (or my dated encyclopedia). But not for long.

Right about this time, my mother started dating (and eventually married) a militant atheist. I learned a lot from him. Then I read Bertrand Russell&#039;s Why I Am Not a Christian, and that sealed the deal. Religion was dead for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever workbook the teachers provided at the Lutheran school I attended. One of the exercises was sorting out what all the different commandments actually meant. In the back were answers to some questions. I went to look at what that worshipping no other gods answer would say, and it talked about not worshipping other gods because God was a jealous god.</p>
<p>This put me in a dilemma. All my life, family, teachers&#8211;all kinds of people, made it clear that jealousy was wrong. Jealousy was a no-no. But here was something telling me god was jealous, and that&#8217;s why I had to worship him, as per the Commandment. But there was another commandment that said to honor the father and mother. Now was I supposed to dishonor them by questioning what they had taught me? Or accept what they taught me, and discredit the jealous commandment? Or&#8230;</p>
<p>I went round and round with it but in the end asked my mother why jealousy was wrong. She explained it in terms that an 11-year-old (as I was then) could understand, that life wasn&#8217;t always fair, that we couldn&#8217;t have everything, that what mattered most was being a good person, etc. She made sense. When I asked my teacher why jealousy was wrong, she said basically the same thing. Then when I asked how jealousy could be wrong, but god was jealous, she started in on how it wasn&#8217;t right to question god (nice change of subject), that I wasn&#8217;t equal to god, etc., etc.</p>
<p>The disconnect was breathtakingly obvious to me, and that started me questioning Christianity. I went to my trusty encyclopedia at home and read about Christianity. It didn&#8217;t answer my doubts. Then I saw a listing about Religion in general. I went to it, and learned that there were all these other faiths! I read through them, and they sounded kinda fascinating, but kind of silly too. But, still, that they all were so sure they were right, that they had the answers, had me questioning Christianity further: What if the Hindus were right? Or the Buddhists? Or the Muslims? Or (fill in blank)? What then? Atheism didn&#8217;t even enter any of this. It was unheard of, at least by me (or my dated encyclopedia). But not for long.</p>
<p>Right about this time, my mother started dating (and eventually married) a militant atheist. I learned a lot from him. Then I read Bertrand Russell&#8217;s Why I Am Not a Christian, and that sealed the deal. Religion was dead for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &quot;conversion&quot; was a very naive one, when I still had many years of elementary school to go (I can&#039;t remember anymore precisely than that). Back before I even knew the word &quot;atheism&quot;, before I ever read the books or heard the words of heretics to the Christian orthodox, and before I even knew there were other religions besides Christianity, one night I simply told myself after prayer (which I had been doing for some time), that it actually wasn&#039;t working, and therefore that God wasn&#039;t real. Did I give mention to my naivete?  

And that was that; I don&#039;t recall giving further thought to the matter until several years later.

My mom wasn&#039;t a very passionate and informed believer, but she certainly &lt;em&gt;believed&lt;/em&gt;.  She took me to church every Sunday, would eventually enroll me to Catholic school, used to host some religious gatherings in our apartment, and lead prayer at home before bed every night. There are several Bibles in our house. 

As the quotation marks around the word &quot;conversion&quot; at the start of my post meant to imply, reflecting on this past I don&#039;t consider it much of a conversion because, although I certainly chose to believe in Him, I knew very little about Him and the faith. 

I never came back into the Christian fold.

Although I maintained my disbelief, it was only as recently as probably two years ago that I became confident in referring to myself as an atheist. At that time, I had still not read any atheist or skeptic books. The earliest notable influence from other people I remember that helped my disbelief lose its naivete and become informed and intellectual was a few Internet message board members, particularly Brad Johnson and Karim Temple, who go by the user name &quot;Saint&quot; and &quot;X&quot;, respectively. Their debates with others and with each other involving topics that touch on religion influenced me when I read them at Project-Ion (a forum that no longer exists), and even more recently and to this day at my own forum, The Infinity Program. 

Another Internet message board member who&#039;s influenced me, but this one later and much more significantly, is Michael Wong, who goes by the user name Darth Wong at his forum, StarDestroyer.net. His are among several websites I still remember that have most strengthened and informed my disbelief, and further decreased the probability of me returning to the Christian (or any other religion&#039;s) fold. Those websites are as follows:

Paul Tobin&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Rejection of Pascal&#039;s Wager: A Skeptic&#039;s Guide To Christianity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; His essays that argue for the evolutionary basis of morality and for the choosing of the label &quot;atheism&quot; over &quot;agnosticism&quot; in his &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/atheismfaq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atheism: FAQ&lt;/a&gt;&quot; contained in that site was among the most influential material I read. That argument that morality has an evolutionary basis is especially important to me. I&#039;ve not heard much more on that since Michael Wong advocated it in some posts on his forum. The essays influenced my recent decision to put Frans B. M. de Waal&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Good Natured: The Origins of Right and Wrong in Humans and Other Animals&lt;/em&gt; and Robert Wright&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Moral Animal: Why We Are, The Way We Are, The New Science of Evolutionary Psychology&lt;/em&gt; on my Wish List. 

Michael Wong&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creationtheory.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creationism versus Science&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. I also recommend looking for threads that touch on religion at his aforementioned Internet message board. 
Steven Dutch&#039;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pscindx.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Science, Pseudoscience, and Irrationalism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. He&#039;s agnostic, and he has a good article that argues for the label &quot;agnosticism&quot; over &quot;atheism&quot; (with such force I&#039;ve not read since I read Robert Ingersoll&#039;s essays), but his many essays influenced my non-belief notably.

Ed and Michael Buckner&#039;s damning list of quotations, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ed_buckner/quotations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quotations that Support the Separation of Church and State&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. The U.S. Founding Fathers, among other notables, with very damning and insightful quotations. 

Some time after I started reading the above websites, I started becoming interested in books and started reading a lot for leisure. And I&#039;ve picked up a lot of books that touch on religion since then. I&#039;ve read

Richard Dawkins&#039; &lt;em&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/em&gt;. This book didn&#039;t really resonate with me. Much of what he talked about I already read about with detail on the Internet. I found his &lt;em&gt;The Blind Watchmaker&lt;/em&gt; more influential towards my disbelief. 

Sam Harris&#039; &lt;em&gt;The End of Faith&lt;/em&gt;. Also didn&#039;t really resonate with me. 

Susan Jacoby&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism&lt;/em&gt;. This one struck me. A book on America&#039;s heretics to the Christian orthodox and the important role they&#039;ve played throughout our nation&#039;s history. Heck yes! And to think I got it on accident, just not wanting to leave the B&amp;N before it closes with just one book, though I never thought I&#039;d ever come across an entire book on this subject. 

Hemant Mehta&#039;s &lt;em&gt;I Sold My Soul on eBay: Viewing Faith through an Atheist&#039;s Eye&lt;/em&gt;. I didn&#039;t care too much for the parts about atheism, but I very much liked his descriptions of his church-going experiences. Well worth the price for that, and was glad to help the author of this very interesting blog. 

Carl Sagan&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark&lt;/em&gt;. I liked this one. 

Bart D. Ehrman&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Misquoting Jesus&lt;/em&gt;. This one quite influenced me. I found it humorous that a fundamentalist Christian contact I had, soon after I had revealed to him I read it, would post a thorough review on his own blog, having not read it, but assuring me that he had done well enough instead by reading reviews on it (not just on a bunch of apologists sites, or otherwise with a certain demographic in mind, I&#039;m sure), and read some other book by him that, he says, is pretty much just the same thing (makes me wonder why he didn&#039;t just review &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; one then). 

Richard Carrier&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Sense &amp; Goodness Without God: A Defense of Metaphysical Naturalism&lt;/em&gt;.

Mark Twain&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Letters From The Earth&lt;/em&gt;. The first few stories are a harsh parody about Christianity. And yes, from &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; Mark Twain. 

Christian apologetics I&#039;ve read are 

&lt;em&gt;The Complete C.S. Lewis Signature Classics&lt;/em&gt;
Michael J. Wilkins and J.P. Moreland&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Jesus Under Fire&lt;/em&gt; 
Lee Strobel&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Case For Christ&lt;/em&gt;

... and I&#039;ve already read the Bible.

Books I plan to read

Lee Strobel&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Case For Faith&lt;/em&gt;
Bertrand Russel&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Why I Am Not A Christian&lt;/em&gt;
Richard E. Friedman&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Who Wrote The Bible?&lt;/em&gt;
William James&#039; &lt;em&gt;The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study of Human Nature&lt;/em&gt;
Bart D. Ehrman&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scriptures and The Faiths We Never Knew&lt;/em&gt;
Bart D. Ehrman&#039;s &lt;em&gt;God&#039;s Problem: How The Bible Fails To Answer Our Most Important Question--Why We Suffer&lt;/em&gt;
Robert M. Price and Jeffery Jay Lowder, eds., &lt;em&gt;The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave&lt;/em&gt;
William Lane Craig&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Reasonable Faith&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &#8220;conversion&#8221; was a very naive one, when I still had many years of elementary school to go (I can&#8217;t remember anymore precisely than that). Back before I even knew the word &#8220;atheism&#8221;, before I ever read the books or heard the words of heretics to the Christian orthodox, and before I even knew there were other religions besides Christianity, one night I simply told myself after prayer (which I had been doing for some time), that it actually wasn&#8217;t working, and therefore that God wasn&#8217;t real. Did I give mention to my naivete?  </p>
<p>And that was that; I don&#8217;t recall giving further thought to the matter until several years later.</p>
<p>My mom wasn&#8217;t a very passionate and informed believer, but she certainly <em>believed</em>.  She took me to church every Sunday, would eventually enroll me to Catholic school, used to host some religious gatherings in our apartment, and lead prayer at home before bed every night. There are several Bibles in our house. </p>
<p>As the quotation marks around the word &#8220;conversion&#8221; at the start of my post meant to imply, reflecting on this past I don&#8217;t consider it much of a conversion because, although I certainly chose to believe in Him, I knew very little about Him and the faith. </p>
<p>I never came back into the Christian fold.</p>
<p>Although I maintained my disbelief, it was only as recently as probably two years ago that I became confident in referring to myself as an atheist. At that time, I had still not read any atheist or skeptic books. The earliest notable influence from other people I remember that helped my disbelief lose its naivete and become informed and intellectual was a few Internet message board members, particularly Brad Johnson and Karim Temple, who go by the user name &#8220;Saint&#8221; and &#8220;X&#8221;, respectively. Their debates with others and with each other involving topics that touch on religion influenced me when I read them at Project-Ion (a forum that no longer exists), and even more recently and to this day at my own forum, The Infinity Program. </p>
<p>Another Internet message board member who&#8217;s influenced me, but this one later and much more significantly, is Michael Wong, who goes by the user name Darth Wong at his forum, StarDestroyer.net. His are among several websites I still remember that have most strengthened and informed my disbelief, and further decreased the probability of me returning to the Christian (or any other religion&#8217;s) fold. Those websites are as follows:</p>
<p>Paul Tobin&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Rejection of Pascal&#8217;s Wager: A Skeptic&#8217;s Guide To Christianity</a></em> His essays that argue for the evolutionary basis of morality and for the choosing of the label &#8220;atheism&#8221; over &#8220;agnosticism&#8221; in his &#8220;<a href="http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/atheismfaq.html" rel="nofollow">Atheism: FAQ</a>&#8221; contained in that site was among the most influential material I read. That argument that morality has an evolutionary basis is especially important to me. I&#8217;ve not heard much more on that since Michael Wong advocated it in some posts on his forum. The essays influenced my recent decision to put Frans B. M. de Waal&#8217;s <em>Good Natured: The Origins of Right and Wrong in Humans and Other Animals</em> and Robert Wright&#8217;s <em>The Moral Animal: Why We Are, The Way We Are, The New Science of Evolutionary Psychology</em> on my Wish List. </p>
<p>Michael Wong&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.creationtheory.org/" rel="nofollow">Creationism versus Science</a></em>. I also recommend looking for threads that touch on religion at his aforementioned Internet message board.<br />
Steven Dutch&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pscindx.htm" rel="nofollow">Science, Pseudoscience, and Irrationalism</a></em>. He&#8217;s agnostic, and he has a good article that argues for the label &#8220;agnosticism&#8221; over &#8220;atheism&#8221; (with such force I&#8217;ve not read since I read Robert Ingersoll&#8217;s essays), but his many essays influenced my non-belief notably.</p>
<p>Ed and Michael Buckner&#8217;s damning list of quotations, &#8220;<a href="http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ed_buckner/quotations.html" rel="nofollow">Quotations that Support the Separation of Church and State</a>&#8220;. The U.S. Founding Fathers, among other notables, with very damning and insightful quotations. </p>
<p>Some time after I started reading the above websites, I started becoming interested in books and started reading a lot for leisure. And I&#8217;ve picked up a lot of books that touch on religion since then. I&#8217;ve read</p>
<p>Richard Dawkins&#8217; <em>The God Delusion</em>. This book didn&#8217;t really resonate with me. Much of what he talked about I already read about with detail on the Internet. I found his <em>The Blind Watchmaker</em> more influential towards my disbelief. </p>
<p>Sam Harris&#8217; <em>The End of Faith</em>. Also didn&#8217;t really resonate with me. </p>
<p>Susan Jacoby&#8217;s <em>Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism</em>. This one struck me. A book on America&#8217;s heretics to the Christian orthodox and the important role they&#8217;ve played throughout our nation&#8217;s history. Heck yes! And to think I got it on accident, just not wanting to leave the B&amp;N before it closes with just one book, though I never thought I&#8217;d ever come across an entire book on this subject. </p>
<p>Hemant Mehta&#8217;s <em>I Sold My Soul on eBay: Viewing Faith through an Atheist&#8217;s Eye</em>. I didn&#8217;t care too much for the parts about atheism, but I very much liked his descriptions of his church-going experiences. Well worth the price for that, and was glad to help the author of this very interesting blog. </p>
<p>Carl Sagan&#8217;s <em>The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark</em>. I liked this one. </p>
<p>Bart D. Ehrman&#8217;s <em>Misquoting Jesus</em>. This one quite influenced me. I found it humorous that a fundamentalist Christian contact I had, soon after I had revealed to him I read it, would post a thorough review on his own blog, having not read it, but assuring me that he had done well enough instead by reading reviews on it (not just on a bunch of apologists sites, or otherwise with a certain demographic in mind, I&#8217;m sure), and read some other book by him that, he says, is pretty much just the same thing (makes me wonder why he didn&#8217;t just review <em>that</em> one then). </p>
<p>Richard Carrier&#8217;s <em>Sense &amp; Goodness Without God: A Defense of Metaphysical Naturalism</em>.</p>
<p>Mark Twain&#8217;s <em>Letters From The Earth</em>. The first few stories are a harsh parody about Christianity. And yes, from <em>the</em> Mark Twain. </p>
<p>Christian apologetics I&#8217;ve read are </p>
<p><em>The Complete C.S. Lewis Signature Classics</em><br />
Michael J. Wilkins and J.P. Moreland&#8217;s <em>Jesus Under Fire</em><br />
Lee Strobel&#8217;s <em>The Case For Christ</em></p>
<p>&#8230; and I&#8217;ve already read the Bible.</p>
<p>Books I plan to read</p>
<p>Lee Strobel&#8217;s <em>The Case For Faith</em><br />
Bertrand Russel&#8217;s <em>Why I Am Not A Christian</em><br />
Richard E. Friedman&#8217;s <em>Who Wrote The Bible?</em><br />
William James&#8217; <em>The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study of Human Nature</em><br />
Bart D. Ehrman&#8217;s <em>Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scriptures and The Faiths We Never Knew</em><br />
Bart D. Ehrman&#8217;s <em>God&#8217;s Problem: How The Bible Fails To Answer Our Most Important Question&#8211;Why We Suffer</em><br />
Robert M. Price and Jeffery Jay Lowder, eds., <em>The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond The Grave</em><br />
William Lane Craig&#8217;s <em>Reasonable Faith</em></p>
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		<title>By: Magdalena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magdalena</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark&quot; by Carl Sagan</description>
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		<title>By: Siamang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siamang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old James Randi educational foundation website and discussion board did it for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have to be James Frazer&#039;s The Golden Bough, sophomore year of college. Raised Catholic, after reading that it became impossible to believe in any of it once I realized that all of Christian mythology was indistinguishable from the mythologies from a hundred other groups all over the world, all of them bloody, primitive and barbaric, full of propitiatory sacrifices and people rising from the dead. It was the first time I realized where the Bible belonged, on the shelf between the Iliad and Gilgamesh, all fascinating, and somewhat frightening, products of an age long since past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have to be James Frazer&#8217;s The Golden Bough, sophomore year of college. Raised Catholic, after reading that it became impossible to believe in any of it once I realized that all of Christian mythology was indistinguishable from the mythologies from a hundred other groups all over the world, all of them bloody, primitive and barbaric, full of propitiatory sacrifices and people rising from the dead. It was the first time I realized where the Bible belonged, on the shelf between the Iliad and Gilgamesh, all fascinating, and somewhat frightening, products of an age long since past.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikeila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins.  It was the first book (or anything or anyone) I ever read that explained in a satisfactory way how life could have come about with out God.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/04/22/which-books-helped-you-become-an-atheist/#comment-156548</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this would be more common than it is, judging by other comments (though I&#039;m by no means the first to say it) - TGD kicked it off for me, then The End Of Faith. From there, I was hooked.

I&#039;m now going back and &lt;a href=&quot;http://reanalyze.blogspot.com/2008/04/atheist-reads-bible-introduction.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reading the Bible&lt;/a&gt; and can now understand those who were pushed away from Christianity by its overwhelmingly coherent eloquence.

Still, this post gives me a nice long list of other books to consider :-)

-Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this would be more common than it is, judging by other comments (though I&#8217;m by no means the first to say it) &#8211; TGD kicked it off for me, then The End Of Faith. From there, I was hooked.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now going back and <a href="http://reanalyze.blogspot.com/2008/04/atheist-reads-bible-introduction.html" rel="nofollow">reading the Bible</a> and can now understand those who were pushed away from Christianity by its overwhelmingly coherent eloquence.</p>
<p>Still, this post gives me a nice long list of other books to consider <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I read an article in Wired magazine (don&#039;t know when it was published, sorry!) that started me thinking, for the first time in my life, that atheism didn&#039;t sound too evil.  Then Chris Hitchens&#039; book God is Not Great pushed me over the fence I was teetering on.


By the way, just now I accidentally typed Christ Hitchens. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I read an article in Wired magazine (don&#8217;t know when it was published, sorry!) that started me thinking, for the first time in my life, that atheism didn&#8217;t sound too evil.  Then Chris Hitchens&#8217; book God is Not Great pushed me over the fence I was teetering on.</p>
<p>By the way, just now I accidentally typed Christ Hitchens. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JimboB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimboB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t think of any one book in particular, but I was always interested in mythology as a child.  I can remember reading about all the Greek gods and the Roman gods.  It didn&#039;t take much to realize the gods described by the Greeks and Romans were the same gods.  
After that I started reading more about Norse gods, Egyptian gods, and others.  And since I went to Catholic grade school I was already learning all about the Judeo-Christian god.  I was starting to see the same types of mythological stories in all these different religions, and I was getting quite skeptical.  
Then for a while I started reading fiction books like Anne Rice&#039;s &quot;Memnoch the Devil&quot; and Stephen King&#039;s &quot;Dark Tower&quot; series, and the religious elements jumped out at me again and again.  I considered myself a &quot;50/50 agnostic&quot; from age 10 to about age 18 or so.  
After talking to a friend of mine about religion (he was a Baptist at the time), I somehow shook his faith and he ended up becoming an atheist.  After he lent me a copy of George Smith&#039;s &quot;Atheism: A Case Against God&quot;, I also started leaning toward atheism.  
While reading extensively about theism, atheism, etc., and formulating my world-view, I found myself lacking a proper title.   I could call myself a Bright, but I&#039;m not crazy about that.  So now, I consider myself an agnostic atheist and/or a secular humanist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of any one book in particular, but I was always interested in mythology as a child.  I can remember reading about all the Greek gods and the Roman gods.  It didn&#8217;t take much to realize the gods described by the Greeks and Romans were the same gods.<br />
After that I started reading more about Norse gods, Egyptian gods, and others.  And since I went to Catholic grade school I was already learning all about the Judeo-Christian god.  I was starting to see the same types of mythological stories in all these different religions, and I was getting quite skeptical.<br />
Then for a while I started reading fiction books like Anne Rice&#8217;s &#8220;Memnoch the Devil&#8221; and Stephen King&#8217;s &#8220;Dark Tower&#8221; series, and the religious elements jumped out at me again and again.  I considered myself a &#8220;50/50 agnostic&#8221; from age 10 to about age 18 or so.<br />
After talking to a friend of mine about religion (he was a Baptist at the time), I somehow shook his faith and he ended up becoming an atheist.  After he lent me a copy of George Smith&#8217;s &#8220;Atheism: A Case Against God&#8221;, I also started leaning toward atheism.<br />
While reading extensively about theism, atheism, etc., and formulating my world-view, I found myself lacking a proper title.   I could call myself a Bright, but I&#8217;m not crazy about that.  So now, I consider myself an agnostic atheist and/or a secular humanist.</p>
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