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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-183305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janelle, you might be thinking of Stephen Colbert. He teaches Sunday School. Jon Stewart is a born Jew, but I believe (but cannot confirm it) that he is now either an atheist or agnostic. He is DEFINITELY not a Christian, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janelle, you might be thinking of Stephen Colbert. He teaches Sunday School. Jon Stewart is a born Jew, but I believe (but cannot confirm it) that he is now either an atheist or agnostic. He is DEFINITELY not a Christian, though.</p>
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		<title>By: siamang</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-164615</link>
		<dc:creator>siamang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a joke?   Jon Stewart is a Jew.  Do some research yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a joke?   Jon Stewart is a Jew.  Do some research yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: janelle</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-164597</link>
		<dc:creator>janelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm...Jon Stewart is a Christian...in fact he teaches Sunday School.  I somewhat agree with the watered down mainstream point but do ur research</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;Jon Stewart is a Christian&#8230;in fact he teaches Sunday School.  I somewhat agree with the watered down mainstream point but do ur research</p>
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		<title>By: Asylum Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-161718</link>
		<dc:creator>Asylum Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 06:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love it!   Apparently making innovative forms of expression more bland and derivative, and tossing in a few Christian phrases, they&#039;ve come up with a &quot;I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s not going to burn in Hell&quot; substitute for any occasion!  They have decided to take good brands and products, and trying to make them better for our souls, which, apparently, necessitates it being &quot;almost as good&quot; as the original.  It is like the cultural equivalent of Splenda: not as bad for you as sugar, serving the same purpose as sugar, and still relatively sweet, but it inevitably leaves a horrible after-taste, and just isn&#039;t quite the same...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love it!   Apparently making innovative forms of expression more bland and derivative, and tossing in a few Christian phrases, they&#8217;ve come up with a &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s not going to burn in Hell&#8221; substitute for any occasion!  They have decided to take good brands and products, and trying to make them better for our souls, which, apparently, necessitates it being &#8220;almost as good&#8221; as the original.  It is like the cultural equivalent of Splenda: not as bad for you as sugar, serving the same purpose as sugar, and still relatively sweet, but it inevitably leaves a horrible after-taste, and just isn&#8217;t quite the same&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kori</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-161609</link>
		<dc:creator>Kori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake - you make a good point. There are plenty of artists who consider themselves &quot;Christian&quot; or who, at the very least, have a song or two dealing with their faith, etc., and this doesn&#039;t require that they label themselves &quot;Christian Rock&quot;. It doesn&#039;t necessarily contradict to be Christian and belong to some of those groups - but being a &quot;Christian&quot; variation of any of those groups _does_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake &#8211; you make a good point. There are plenty of artists who consider themselves &#8220;Christian&#8221; or who, at the very least, have a song or two dealing with their faith, etc., and this doesn&#8217;t require that they label themselves &#8220;Christian Rock&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily contradict to be Christian and belong to some of those groups &#8211; but being a &#8220;Christian&#8221; variation of any of those groups _does_.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-161595</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean-- sorry I misunderstood you. I do see your point and don&#039;t think the church should dictate what artists are doing either. 

I think part of the problem with the Christian subculture is that a lot of Christian artists are 1) only paying attention to other Christian artists and 2) assuming that because they are Christians and artists everything they do has to be directly (and blatantly) related to Christianity. I think Christians, and I am one, should be broader in our approach.

As an example, some of my college roommates were in a band that played a fair number of shows around town. They were all Christians, but weren&#039;t a &quot;Christian band&quot;-- some of their lyrics dealt more directly with faith, some didn&#039;t, but they weren&#039;t only hanging out with Christians or only marketing themselves to Christians. I think their approach was better than Christians retreating and making our own little subculture-- which is usually more expensive and less quality than what we&#039;re imitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean&#8211; sorry I misunderstood you. I do see your point and don&#8217;t think the church should dictate what artists are doing either. </p>
<p>I think part of the problem with the Christian subculture is that a lot of Christian artists are 1) only paying attention to other Christian artists and 2) assuming that because they are Christians and artists everything they do has to be directly (and blatantly) related to Christianity. I think Christians, and I am one, should be broader in our approach.</p>
<p>As an example, some of my college roommates were in a band that played a fair number of shows around town. They were all Christians, but weren&#8217;t a &#8220;Christian band&#8221;&#8211; some of their lyrics dealt more directly with faith, some didn&#8217;t, but they weren&#8217;t only hanging out with Christians or only marketing themselves to Christians. I think their approach was better than Christians retreating and making our own little subculture&#8211; which is usually more expensive and less quality than what we&#8217;re imitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just so glad that people are starting to draw attention to the Christian bastardization of pop culture. I used to think it was kind of funny, nothing more, but now it&#039;s starting to irritate me---it&#039;s like watching a crappy cover band ruin your favorite song. There&#039;s even a Christian version of the Pokemon Trading Card Game; I have a link to the site somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just so glad that people are starting to draw attention to the Christian bastardization of pop culture. I used to think it was kind of funny, nothing more, but now it&#8217;s starting to irritate me&#8212;it&#8217;s like watching a crappy cover band ruin your favorite song. There&#8217;s even a Christian version of the Pokemon Trading Card Game; I have a link to the site somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Sayre</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-161508</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Sayre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see Bibleman and Battle Pope have an ecumenical team-up. Maybe they can join forces to take on Eastern Orthodoxy or something. That would be so awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see Bibleman and Battle Pope have an ecumenical team-up. Maybe they can join forces to take on Eastern Orthodoxy or something. That would be so awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake:&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously, though, I had to chuckle some at Sean’s comment. Bach and Michaelangelo “may have had brilliant secular careers”? They were each among the most famous people in the world at the time of their deaths, and we’re still talking about them. Their careers were plenty brilliant. You may not like that they were Christians, but it’s not like the man was holding them down in obscurity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh no, I&#039;m not saying that. Just lamenting the fact that in order so survive and work at all, some great artists of the past had to subjugate their creativity to either the church or some rich person&#039;s patronage. And its different for every artist. To use my examples, from what I&#039;ve read Bach l loved the church but Michaelangelo chafed under the pressure to paint the Sistine chapel ceiling and would have rather worked on something else. I mean, if I could only work as a musician (as I do) if I did work for the glory of the church or only at the whim of the rich I&#039;d go nuts. Yes, Bach and Michaelangelo are brilliant and their work will likely amaze people for hundreds of years more. I enjoy both very much and could care less if they are christians. For me an artist&#039;s work comes before their belief. But what would they do today, unshackled from those pressures? Maybe the same thing, maybe not. It should be for the artist to decide though and not the church. And for the record, Bach was almost lost to history, partly due to so much of his work being kept in the church and partly due to changes in musical styles. He was rediscovered years after his death thanks largely to Mozart.

Just meant as more examples of how those in power want to control everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake:<br />
<blockquote>Seriously, though, I had to chuckle some at Sean’s comment. Bach and Michaelangelo “may have had brilliant secular careers”? They were each among the most famous people in the world at the time of their deaths, and we’re still talking about them. Their careers were plenty brilliant. You may not like that they were Christians, but it’s not like the man was holding them down in obscurity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh no, I&#8217;m not saying that. Just lamenting the fact that in order so survive and work at all, some great artists of the past had to subjugate their creativity to either the church or some rich person&#8217;s patronage. And its different for every artist. To use my examples, from what I&#8217;ve read Bach l loved the church but Michaelangelo chafed under the pressure to paint the Sistine chapel ceiling and would have rather worked on something else. I mean, if I could only work as a musician (as I do) if I did work for the glory of the church or only at the whim of the rich I&#8217;d go nuts. Yes, Bach and Michaelangelo are brilliant and their work will likely amaze people for hundreds of years more. I enjoy both very much and could care less if they are christians. For me an artist&#8217;s work comes before their belief. But what would they do today, unshackled from those pressures? Maybe the same thing, maybe not. It should be for the artist to decide though and not the church. And for the record, Bach was almost lost to history, partly due to so much of his work being kept in the church and partly due to changes in musical styles. He was rediscovered years after his death thanks largely to Mozart.</p>
<p>Just meant as more examples of how those in power want to control everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Kori</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/05/christian-pop-culture/#comment-161502</link>
		<dc:creator>Kori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah; I&#039;ve always thought (or, for a while at least...) that the whole Christian dumbed-down version of stuff was kind of awful. Not even because of what it&#039;s saying, but because what it&#039;s saying is so contradictory in nature to what the art and culture of the movement it apes probably represented. The same goes for watering things down for mainstream consumption, though, too... either way, it kind of disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah; I&#8217;ve always thought (or, for a while at least&#8230;) that the whole Christian dumbed-down version of stuff was kind of awful. Not even because of what it&#8217;s saying, but because what it&#8217;s saying is so contradictory in nature to what the art and culture of the movement it apes probably represented. The same goes for watering things down for mainstream consumption, though, too&#8230; either way, it kind of disgusts me.</p>
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