Comments on: Are They the Same? http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/ by Hemant Mehta Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: stogoe http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162284 stogoe Thu, 08 May 2008 13:49:48 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162284 Yes, I'd say that's fair. To clarify, though, "nutty preacher" is an awfully big group, and who exactly counts as one is up to the viewer. For me, while Hagee/Donohue/Robertson et al are obviously much worse than him, I still consider Wright nutty. Yes, I’d say that’s fair. To clarify, though, “nutty preacher” is an awfully big group, and who exactly counts as one is up to the viewer. For me, while Hagee/Donohue/Robertson et al are obviously much worse than him, I still consider Wright nutty.

]]> By: John Pritzlaff http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162138 John Pritzlaff Thu, 08 May 2008 03:51:33 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162138 I'd say Robertson is slightly more crazy than Wright, and insane Republican preachers on average are a little more crazy than insane Democrat preachers, but ultimately I think Wright is in the same league as Robertson, in the sense that they both have exactly the same amount of evidence to support their claims: none. The evangelical protestant church and the black church can both be extremely loopy, in very different ways. They both should be ashamed of their actions and philosophies, in general. BTW, anybody who hasn't been acquainted with Pat Robertson should check out the "Predictions" section of his wikipedia article. Pretty scary stuff. He's an egotistic, solipsistic, retarded child, and he deserves a few hours in hell. I’d say Robertson is slightly more crazy than Wright, and insane Republican preachers on average are a little more crazy than insane Democrat preachers, but ultimately I think Wright is in the same league as Robertson, in the sense that they both have exactly the same amount of evidence to support their claims: none. The evangelical protestant church and the black church can both be extremely loopy, in very different ways. They both should be ashamed of their actions and philosophies, in general.

BTW, anybody who hasn’t been acquainted with Pat Robertson should check out the “Predictions” section of his wikipedia article. Pretty scary stuff.

He’s an egotistic, solipsistic, retarded child, and he deserves a few hours in hell.

]]> By: Karen http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162120 Karen Thu, 08 May 2008 02:43:31 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162120 <blockquote>Nutty, Christian and Democrat. And lots of them.</blockquote> Hoo boy - I've seen a few. ;-) Now, if she'd made it "nutty spiritual leader" instead of "nutty preacher," you'd have a <strong>whole bunch</strong> of overlap with Democrats. Man, the kooky New Agers in liberal circles are an entire universe of fruitcakes all to themselves!

Nutty, Christian and Democrat. And lots of them.

Hoo boy – I’ve seen a few. ;-)

Now, if she’d made it “nutty spiritual leader” instead of “nutty preacher,” you’d have a whole bunch of overlap with Democrats. Man, the kooky New Agers in liberal circles are an entire universe of fruitcakes all to themselves!

]]> By: bullet http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162080 bullet Thu, 08 May 2008 00:23:46 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162080 "Area A would be, from my experience, small indeed." You obviously don't have enough black churches in your experience. Nutty, Christian and Democrat. And lots of them. “Area A would be, from my experience, small indeed.”

You obviously don’t have enough black churches in your experience. Nutty, Christian and Democrat. And lots of them.

]]> By: Mark http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162071 Mark Wed, 07 May 2008 23:38:49 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162071 Hey, you forgot about that freak named Jerry Fallwell who claimed that the world trade center blew up because America was too soft on homosexuals/ This nut, this freak, this lunatick is one of the best examples of proof that there is no God. Why are Christians so nasty and awfull? Hey, you forgot about that freak named Jerry Fallwell who claimed that the world trade center blew up because America was too soft on homosexuals/ This nut, this freak, this lunatick is one of the best examples of proof that there is no God.

Why are Christians so nasty and awfull?

]]> By: benjamin ady http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162003 benjamin ady Wed, 07 May 2008 20:37:54 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-162003 What's "fair"? I love the "et al" What’s “fair”?

I love the “et al”

]]> By: HappyNat http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161977 HappyNat Wed, 07 May 2008 19:30:40 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161977 The difference is that Obama was a member Wright's church for 20 years and called him a mentor in his book. McCain, as far as I know, was never a member at Hagee's church. There is a big difference between accepting the support of a preacher in your bid for president and supporting a crazy preacher by sitting in the pew for 20+ years. The difference is that Obama was a member Wright’s church for 20 years and called him a mentor in his book. McCain, as far as I know, was never a member at Hagee’s church. There is a big difference between accepting the support of a preacher in your bid for president and supporting a crazy preacher by sitting in the pew for 20+ years.

]]> By: Spiderbrigade http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161974 Spiderbrigade Wed, 07 May 2008 19:21:16 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161974 Yes, this is a purely taxonomic diagram. In other words it is not to scale. If it were to scale the area labeled B would be a lot bigger than A. Area A would be, from my experience, small indeed. Yes, this is a purely taxonomic diagram. In other words it is not to scale. If it were to scale the area labeled B would be a lot bigger than A. Area A would be, from my experience, small indeed.

]]> By: bullet http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161973 bullet Wed, 07 May 2008 19:20:57 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161973 It shouldn't read "nutty preacher." It should read "snake oil God for dollars salesman." In that respect, yes, it's fair to throw them together. It doesn't matter what particular rhetoric they use to separate their congregations from their money and common sense. The result is the same. There's no difference between McCain and Obama in this respect, either. Both of them are using these idiots to pander to their constituents. Obama was using a black church whose preacher said a lot of things white people didn't like. Whoops. As far as I know, McCain's idiots haven't said anything to piss off blacks, just liberals. McCain also hasn't tried to use his "spiritual advisers" as anything but window dressing, while Barack tried to turn his into a possible tide-turning speech about race. That really bit him on the ass. It shouldn’t read “nutty preacher.” It should read “snake oil God for dollars salesman.”

In that respect, yes, it’s fair to throw them together. It doesn’t matter what particular rhetoric they use to separate their congregations from their money and common sense. The result is the same.

There’s no difference between McCain and Obama in this respect, either. Both of them are using these idiots to pander to their constituents. Obama was using a black church whose preacher said a lot of things white people didn’t like. Whoops. As far as I know, McCain’s idiots haven’t said anything to piss off blacks, just liberals. McCain also hasn’t tried to use his “spiritual advisers” as anything but window dressing, while Barack tried to turn his into a possible tide-turning speech about race. That really bit him on the ass.

]]> By: bullet http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161967 bullet Wed, 07 May 2008 19:05:42 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/05/07/are-they-the-same/#comment-161967 It shouldn't read "nutty preacher." It should read "snake oil God for dollars salesman." It shouldn’t read “nutty preacher.” It should read “snake oil God for dollars salesman.”

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