Thanks for the discussion. It’s always good when the our first few sentences in a comment expand into dialog.

Pax!

No, it’s not less offensive, it’s just that slander of homosexuals has not reached the same level of slander against a person because of race. People can still get way with making hostile remarks about gays (as your comments about Hagee and Roberston show) whereas making negative remarks about a minority because of race is absolutely forbidden.

As far as ‘hate speech’ is concerned, I think screaming bloody murder every time somebody says something that hurts your feelings is a childish response to childish behavior. It seems to me that being labeled a racist is worse than being called a thief or murderer.

I inferred from one of the posts in this thread that dislike of Obama was due to racism. However, I have seen it portrayed as such in other venues. It’s not (obviously), but the facts have never really dissuaded someone from using the race card in politics or for personal gain anyway.

So Hagee and Roberston blaming homosexuals for the September 11th attacks and the destruction of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina are less offensive than a member of a(n arguably) oppressed minority getting (arguably incoherently) angry at the oppressing majority?

Who said disliking Obama was racist?

Having a sincere dislike for Obama /= racism, anymore than despising Hillary /= misogyny. Does dislike of Bush = misandry?

I imagine if Hagee or Robertson spoke of Blacks being the scourge of white people, or spouted some other incendiary racist nonsense like Wright, I’m sure they would be front page news as well.

Just a thought: fainting at a rally doesn’t always imply being overcome emotionally by the speaker or their message.

At a Coast Guard Day inspection and assembly back in ’91, I watched three guys hit the pavement during the 17th district admiral’s speech. I would bet good money that they were not emotionally overcome.

Could someone be emotionally overcome at an Obama rally? Sure. But, you’re rushing to judgment. Was it hot in the hall? how much water/food had they consumed? how much sleep? what was their age?

Also: Did anyone ever faint at any other mainstream presidential candidate’s rally? And if someone faints at a religious rally is that somehow more acceptable?

Dan: Yeah, I can’t see how a black man who served his country in the ’60s could ever feel bitter about the disparities of treatment of the races.

Hillary had a better chance of getting elected than Obama. And yes, Hillary is batshit insane.

If it’s any consolation to the rest of you, I am not very enthusiastic about Colonel Tighe McCain, either.

I wanted to see Barry Goldwater run, but he isn’t available, being dead and all.

About the campaign, I’m frankly shocked and dismayed by Clinton’s bellicosity, whether she’s serious or just pandering, and the pandering is bothering me too. Anybody that wants it so bad that she’ll lie and pander is unfit.

Lastly, I must say that I’m surprised, honestly, that so many Americans are still so racist. I knew we had a lot of stupid people, but racist too. How many generations will have to die off before we purge this crap from our country?

Hillary really, really needs to hang it up. She has no chance mathematically, she’s out of money and all she’s doing by clinging to her increasingly ruthless ambition is destroying our best chance to get a Dem in the White House in years.

I know they are afraid of bucking the Clinton machine, but the party elders need to start laying out reality here. Fast.