I’m for Hillary as Senate Majority Leader rather than VP, but we absolutely do need some fighters, and we need them soon.

Pam had an article a few days ago where she and her commenters had some great VP choices. I kind of like Sebelius.

Thank you for standing up to those two evil old bats.

You are making it easier for the next person who has to deal with religious bigots.

(Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

In a way, they still are.

Libertarians are paranoid, because we love our freedom. We love working hard to achieve our own victories and seeing the spoils of our winnings.

This is exactly where libertarians go wrong – you fail to realize how many of your “own victories” were assisted by the benefits you’ve received from a government that works for the common good. It goes way beyond police, fire and military (or even schools).

Rather than listing examples of what I mean, let me just repost something that I found online a while ago and posted at my blog:

Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican
By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home. He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals running our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

I like that you brought up the three areas that government actually has a place. Yes, fire and police departments are important. I can go with that. You suspiciously left off, however, all the programs where the government dolls out money without compensation. The police and fire department provide a service. People on welfare do not. People on medicare and social security do not.

And I’ll be long dead in the ground before I let the government educate my children in a government school. Privatized education is the only way to go.

Okay, it’s been fun. Time for work now .

The moment you say it’s acceptable to steal another man’s property for “the greater good”, you are a thief. Plain and simple. Is that paranoia? Or is it just a higher standard of living than the common begger?

John,

I’m not sure if voting for leaders who then raise taxes (who could then be voted out) would qualify here. Seems to be a very “broad” definition of stealing.

But, let’s pretend you’re right and things went your way. Be prepared to hire your own fire department in case your house catches fire. After all, our taxes go to the FD for the common good for putting out fires. Whatever. Just plain-old stealing is what it is. Also, I hope you have good personal security, because you will no longer benefit from a “common good” local police force nor state or national military. Those cops and soldiers just benefit from our government’s theft…how dare they protect us all equally? Who do they think they are? Public education for all? Please…that’s just stealing. Let people who want an education pay for their own schooling. Like they do in sub-Saharan Africa where things are so much better and more free. Finally, I hope you’re ready to save up some money for driving. Because every road you drive on will be owned by someone else. Left turn, pay a fee, right turn, pay a fee. Down with the commies and their “roads for the common good”.

Damn thieves.

If you’re so willing to throw your money towards the greater good, why stop at your standard tax rate? If you honestly believe that the government can better spend your money by giving it to those in more need, why not give them everything? Let them tell you how much you need?

Libertarians are paranoid, because we love our freedom.

So, in order to be part of civilization, what freedoms are you willing to give up?

Because apparently you have decided that “freedom from taxation” is one you are not willing to give up, so…what are you willing to sacrifice?

The moment that another man tells me I HAVE to give my money to another person, whether that be a drug addled homeless junkie, or a family that has fallen upon hard times, I get upset.

I get sad because its depressing that in a country over-burdened with goods, that there are people who go without their basic needs.

This is why I can’t be a libertarian

Why is it that most Libertarians I meet, whether in real life or online, always come across as borderline paranoid?

Libertarians are paranoid, because we love our freedom. We love working hard to achieve our own victories and seeing the spoils of our winnings. I make good money, and I’ll donate it to various causes that I see fit. The moment that another man tells me I HAVE to give my money to another person, whether that be a drug addled homeless junkie, or a family that has fallen upon hard times, I get upset.

Obama recently said he wanted to increase taxes on the rich because they have money the don’t need. As soon as I hear that, warning bells go off. Who the hell determines how much money I need other than myself?

Is McCain better? Not really. He wants to steal my money the same as everyone else. I would never praise either, and I’ll never be happy with either.

The moment you say it’s acceptable to steal another man’s property for “the greater good”, you are a thief. Plain and simple. Is that paranoia? Or is it just a higher standard of living than the common begger?

cautious said,
…I wonder if the GOP impeachment of Clinton happened so that the impeachment process would be tarnished so badly that the next President could get away with anything and not have to fear any repercussions.

I don’t think that was planned. but that is exactly what happened.