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	<title>Comments on: Shirtless Mormons</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: martymankins</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202845</link>
		<dc:creator>martymankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a feeling this news story would get picked up here.

The articles in the SL Tribune were pretty well laid out and detailed.  This guy wishes no harm or ill against the church and he&#039;s just trying to do something different.  The church here in Utah is pretty powerful.  I wish for the day when they get to pay taxes and be called a business, since that&#039;s how they operate here.

Good luck to Chad Hardy and his endeavors as a non-Mormon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a feeling this news story would get picked up here.</p>
<p>The articles in the SL Tribune were pretty well laid out and detailed.  This guy wishes no harm or ill against the church and he&#8217;s just trying to do something different.  The church here in Utah is pretty powerful.  I wish for the day when they get to pay taxes and be called a business, since that&#8217;s how they operate here.</p>
<p>Good luck to Chad Hardy and his endeavors as a non-Mormon.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Beezle</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202671</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Beezle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re only mormon if you&#039;re active in the LDS church.  Cultural mormonism doesn&#039;t really exist because of all of the established rules.  You either follow them and stay in or you don&#039;t and you no longer participate.  Your inactivity won&#039;t stop them from keeping you on the books and including you in their membership stats though. :)

This Chad Hardy fellow was excommunicated because he refused to cease production of the calendars when the church leadership asked him to.  There were some threads over at exmormon.org about this.  

I think he just knows that bad press is good press in his case and since he&#039;s been inactive for 6 years the excommunication is really just a formality.

So where&#039;s Lindsey Kirth lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re only mormon if you&#8217;re active in the LDS church.  Cultural mormonism doesn&#8217;t really exist because of all of the established rules.  You either follow them and stay in or you don&#8217;t and you no longer participate.  Your inactivity won&#8217;t stop them from keeping you on the books and including you in their membership stats though. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This Chad Hardy fellow was excommunicated because he refused to cease production of the calendars when the church leadership asked him to.  There were some threads over at exmormon.org about this.  </p>
<p>I think he just knows that bad press is good press in his case and since he&#8217;s been inactive for 6 years the excommunication is really just a formality.</p>
<p>So where&#8217;s Lindsey Kirth lately?</p>
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		<title>By: stogoe</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202554</link>
		<dc:creator>stogoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he understands free speech.  The government &lt;strike&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/strike&gt; shouldn&#039;t interfere with your right to say unpopular things, but that doesn&#039;t mean the private clubs of which you&#039;re a member won&#039;t sanction you for crossing their line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he understands free speech.  The government <strike>can&#8217;t</strike> shouldn&#8217;t interfere with your right to say unpopular things, but that doesn&#8217;t mean the private clubs of which you&#8217;re a member won&#8217;t sanction you for crossing their line.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Watland</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202530</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Watland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, excommunication isn&#039;t a permanent thing.  There wouldn&#039;t be very many Mormons around if that were true.  They encourage you to come back, talk to a bishop, establish a means to repent, then you can receive communion again, and go to family events at temples and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, excommunication isn&#8217;t a permanent thing.  There wouldn&#8217;t be very many Mormons around if that were true.  They encourage you to come back, talk to a bishop, establish a means to repent, then you can receive communion again, and go to family events at temples and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron in Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw also where he was excommunicated.

I guess if you want to be a member of their secret club you need to play be their rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw also where he was excommunicated.</p>
<p>I guess if you want to be a member of their secret club you need to play be their rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202455</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He actually was excommunicated:

http://www.queerty.com/man-meat-mormon-calendar-creator-excommunicated-20080714/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He actually was excommunicated:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.queerty.com/man-meat-mormon-calendar-creator-excommunicated-20080714/" rel="nofollow">http://www.queerty.com/man-meat-mormon-calendar-creator-excommunicated-20080714/</a></p>
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		<title>By: EKM</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202281</link>
		<dc:creator>EKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think religion in general is pretty dumb, but I can&#039;t see why this guy is upset. If you want to be part of the Mormon Church, you have to play by their rules.

Although, he does say that he is no longer active in the Mormon Church. A lot of Catholics consider themselves Catholic even if they have not been to church in years. Are Mormons the same way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think religion in general is pretty dumb, but I can&#8217;t see why this guy is upset. If you want to be part of the Mormon Church, you have to play by their rules.</p>
<p>Although, he does say that he is no longer active in the Mormon Church. A lot of Catholics consider themselves Catholic even if they have not been to church in years. Are Mormons the same way?</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Watland</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/07/14/shirtless-mormons/#comment-202256</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Watland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading an article about a town in Utah which just ended its ban on bikini&#039;s at city pools.

Of course, for Mormons, what did they expect would happen?  Modesty is a pretty clear value in their culture and faith.  Part of what the &quot;magic underwear,&quot; or temple undergarments help with is determining what clothing is appropriate, or modest enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading an article about a town in Utah which just ended its ban on bikini&#8217;s at city pools.</p>
<p>Of course, for Mormons, what did they expect would happen?  Modesty is a pretty clear value in their culture and faith.  Part of what the &#8220;magic underwear,&#8221; or temple undergarments help with is determining what clothing is appropriate, or modest enough.</p>
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