Bristol Palin’s choice, in that home, under the circumstances, was no choice at all.

Just as was McCain’s selection of a running mate.

And having read the whole post, I think that even if she honestly told him that she wanted to have the baby but wanted to get our from under her family’s thumb and the limelight, I think he would have no regrets about giving it to her.

I’d like to think that’s true, but I don’t.
We’d have to ask him to be sure.
I’m done.
N-joy,
Polly

So, if she doesn’t want one, but still wants the money do you think he’ll still give it to her instead of them?

Frankly, yes, I do. I read his whole post – it’s about choice and freedom. Not to put to fine a point on it, if the money could be used for an abortion, it has to be given to her ASAP. At that point, it’s hers no matter what she does.

And having read the whole post, I think that even if she honestly told him that she wanted to have the baby but wanted to get our from under her family’s thumb and the limelight, I think he would have no regrets about giving it to her.

Which is still all just speculation – all we really have to go on is what he actually said. Since he didn’t make any explicit conditions in the offer but left it open as something she MAY do with the money, unless you have other evidence that there are conditions attached, it seems pointless to maintain that there are.

And what is wrong with that?

You’re responding to a post in an ongoing conversation I’m having with Gullwatcher. You seem to want to change the discussion to adress a different question. I’m not interested.

He didn’t specify what he’d do if she were willing to take the money to start a new life WITH her baby. Going by his unverifiable presumption that she wants to abort but can’t, I can only conclude that he’d withdraw the offer to Bristol and donate the money elsewhere if it turned out she wanted to carry to term.

I agree, it’s reasonable to assume that. A homeless charity will withdraw their offer of a house if the person becomes a former homeless person.

Did you read the full offer? His goal clearly is to help girls get abortions if they want them. So, if she doesn’t want one, but still wants the money do you think he’ll still give it to her instead of them?

And what is wrong with that?

Exactly. He said “so that you can”, and he did NOT say “only if you do”. That’s a choice as to what she can do with the money, not a condition for obtaining it.

I still don’t read it that way.
He didn’t specify what he’d do if she were willing to take the money to start a new life WITH her baby. Going by his unverifiable presumption that she wants to abort but can’t, I can only conclude that he’d withdraw the offer to Bristol and donate the money elsewhere if it turned out she wanted to carry to term.

Did you read the full offer? His goal clearly is to help girls get abortions if they want them. So, if she doesn’t want one, but still wants the money do you think he’ll still give it to her instead of them?
I seriously doubt it.

A couple thoughts need to be brought up. Those of you who say she has a choice need to remember that she’s 17 and being watched and judged by the media and her mom backed by half of the most powerful people in the US government. If she wants to make any decision for herself I bet she has to pass it by a team of people first who hardly ever let her out of their sight. There’s no way she’d be able to take money for an abortion and make it to a clinic before she was picked up as a runaway. As for this being brought up by the Republicans against the Democrats….he’s a Libertarian. He has no affiliation with the Demo’s besides wanting Obama over McCain.

Btw….after finding out about that website I laughed my ass off for a day. Just think if she takes the offer. The media coverage alone will be priceless.

She’d have to travel, she’d have to borrow money and she’d have to overcome her fear of parental disapproval. Her boyfriend presumably can drive and has access to money. As she hasn’t done those things it can only be assumed that she would rather have the baby than go to these efforts.

Who knows, perhaps she’s utterly delighted with the prospect of parenthood. I know I was first got my girlfriend pregnant.

I may sound unsympathetic to pregnant girls in difficult situations but I’m really not. I want them to have access to medical treatments both for pregnancy and for terminations if they choose. I think that it is barbaric that medical aid is denied to people in one of the richest nations, if not the richest nation, on the planet. I also think that it is wrong to invade her privacy and speculate about her motives and opinions…even though I’m doing it too.

Her mother thrust her into the limelight with no regard for her feelings and that is unconscionable. As far as I know, she has never asked the press to grant her family even a little privacy. I would hate to see someone with so little regard for others in a position of power. If she can ignore the needs of her own children for political gain then she can ignore the needs of the next hurricane victims, war victims, or the victims of poverty.