Comments on: Pregnant and Pro-Choice

By: Pam3la

Pam3la — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:22:04 +0000

Absolutely totally pro-choice.

By: rekounas

rekounas — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:19:57 +0000

I am okay with abortion. But when the woman is doing it for her 3rd or 4th time, then she is using it as birth control and that is just wrong.

By: Jeff Flowers

Jeff Flowers — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:07:06 +0000

Don’t make the assumption that atheism = pro choice. That is not always the case.

By: Aj

Aj — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:29:21 +0000

Polly,

Did I give you links? I don’t recall that. Are you sure you’re thinking of me?

You’re right, memories got merged, you posted a link to articles, but it wasn’t to me. Your views do include potential person arguments like I said. That doesn’t mean you can confuse pontential and actual.

By: Polly

Polly — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:09:21 +0000

@Aj,

you have given me links to articles

Did I give you links? I don’t recall that. Are you sure you’re thinking of me?

By: Aj

Aj — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:00:01 +0000

You’ve already explained it to me, you have given me links to articles, I know what the argument from potential is. That you keep confusing potential for actual is not a problem with me. We’ve been through three rounds of your excuses to protect your delusion, I don’t care about your delusion. If you keep conflating the ideas, I’ll keep highlighting it. Do you think it’s for your benefit? Do you think I’ll stop because you refuse to address your irrationalism?

By: Polly

Polly — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:34:11 +0000

@Aj,

I’m not the one constantly trying to conflate two different concepts to deliberately confuse the issue.

The confusion is in your own head. You don’t get it at all. I’m done trying to ‘splain it to you.

By: Old Beezle

Old Beezle — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:54:57 +0000

It seems like there are different arguments within the abortion argument:

1) legal:
the right of a woman to control her own body vs. the state

2) political:
how parties use the issue to their own benefit (Republicans oppose ending the life of a “potential person” but send fully-grown people with families to foreign countries to die for ‘freedom’-wtf?)

3) moral:
right vs wrong blah blah blah

To me, none of these matter…it is the individual choice of the woman (perhaps with input from significant other). She should look at her own life and decide and not let any of these arguments sway her.

By: Aj

Aj — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:07:53 +0000

Polly,

Play your semantic games with yourself. I’m already familiar with your opinion.

I’m not the one constantly trying to conflate two different concepts to deliberately confuse the issue. And you’re not alone, it’s a tactic used by all anti-abortion groups. What’s next, holding up graphic images of aborted fetuses?

By: Allyson

Allyson — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:28:02 +0000

One of the other things that bothers me about the “just don’t have sex” argument is that we’re not slaves to our biology. Not really.

Okay, sometimes biology “wins” – cancer beats chemo, or the organ transplant doesn’t come on time. But I don’t have to live with my genetic predisposition to bad teeth; I can get Lasik rather than lose my eyesight. I can take antibiotics to keep a bacterial infection from killing me. If I were infertile and wanted a child, I could (assuming I had the money) pay to undergo treatments in order to conceive.

No, we can’t control everything. But medical science shows that we don’t have to deal with our biological disappointments. I mean, in theory, you can choose to conceive if you’re infertile (the class issues surrounding that are a different topic altogether). So why do you have to let biology “win” if your birth control fails?