The sale of the coin allows the government to recoup its expenses and will represent less then 1% of the overall revenue the organization receives in a year.

Other organizations receive millions of dollars from our government and still hold their rights. Military is one of them.

If we are looking for a big fish this coin action is pretty small pocket change.

As far as pediphiles, a BSA study said that the average pediphile is 34, married, with 2 children. They use the “morality card” to get rid of ALL gays and athiests and other non-theists that they search for. After being in BSA for 54 years and having been a scoutmaster for 23 years, I was suddenly deemed immoral. WHY Because I am gay. This is new to scouting. (about 15 years old) In fact, if you do some reading, you will find that Baden Powell the founder of boy scouts was ‘bi’.

All Scouting For All is asking is that the Boy Scouts Of America join world scouting in their openness so that all children can have the benefit of of their great program instead of teaching hate to children and hurting so many kids, Gay, Straight, Religious, and non-religious

Howard Menzer
Scouting For All – President
http://www.scoutingforall.org

Despite the BSAs few shortcomings, they do far more positive things than bad.

Except that you cannot take advantage of that if you’re gay or an atheist… Yes, they do a lot of great stuff but they restrict who they make this available to.

And thanks to the link-back from the BSA site, we know how much BSA might gain from this:

H.R. 5872 mandates a $10 surcharge for each silver coin sale. Those surcharges could amount to $3.5 million for the Boy Scouts of America Foundation to serve Scouts in hard-to-serve areas.

Sounds to me like another unjustified bailout…

My initial reaction was “let’s buy all those coins and donate them to Scouting for All.” Given this surcharge, I don’t think that’s a good idea anymore…

If in your opinion I was too harsh on the people whom I acknowledge you knew and I didn’t, I accept that. I was going by the story you provided. The impression I got was that they shrugged their shoulders and said “Sorry kid, you shoulda lied to us.” The mitigating details you have added help me to be more forgiving toward the human beings involved. So far in similar situations I have chosen my principles over my immediate self interest, but being human I cannot say with perfect certainty that I will never succumb to expediency. As far as the BSA is concerned, the issues of hypocrissy, bigotry and cynicism remain unresolved and the policy that has perpetuated them should never be forgiven but should be actively opposed by those who love the Scouts. The rescinding of the young man’s Eagle status is to me far more outrageous than firing him. Every Eagle Scout has been insulted by that act.

As I said before, I hope that some day, through the efforts of people trying to reform the BSA, the young man will be given back his Eagle status, restoring luster to the distinguished accomplishment that you share with him.

There’s one thing I should also clarify: it’s not like most scouting leaders go on witch hunts for atheists and homosexuals. At least that wasn’t how it was like in my troop. Homosexuality and atheism were never even brought up. For the most part, it was a don’t ask, don’t tell kind of thing, like with the military. Again: I’m not trying to defend it, simply trying to explain.

And sorry about that first comment of mine in response, I may have misread your comment into something a bit more personal.

I guess you would just have to know who these “expedient worms” were for yourself. They never claimed to be any sort of social pioneers who would love nothing more than to go down for a greater cause. They’re human beings who love working with and teaching kids, and that was their priority. I’m not trying to defend what they did, but outright insulting them for meaning well isn’t helping either.

Now, it’s not like every member of the scouts agrees with this policy. The two bosses of the camp were cool with it. It was pretty well known what his sexual orientation was, it was just kept on the down-low because of what a great job he did. They simply HAD to fire him because that’s just what policy was.

But of course not cool enough with it to put their own jobs on the line by refusing to fire him. He had the courage to tell the truth but they did not have the courage to honor his courage and stand up to an unjust system in defense of a good man. So the one with principles whom everyone loved was thrown out, while the expedient worms remained to run the camp and continue to administer the policy, every morning reciting their Oath along with the boys starting with the words “On my honor…”

And so Jason, you heard the story of this man and you learned that underneath all that lofty stuff about honor, the cynical lesson is that telling the truth is what losers do. Great teaching for scouts. I’m glad it doesn’t seem to have rubbed off on you.

I hope some day his Eagle status is restored with an official apology. This tower of tyranny is full of rot. Just a few more brave Eagles willing to actually live their honor could topple it.

Then someone in his personal life who really had it out for him got him fired. He sent a link to his myspace to our bosses, where his “sexual orientation” status was listed as gay. They confronted him about it. If he would have just said no, it’s wrong, he could have kept his job. But he went and decided to be a martyr and confirm it was true, and he lost his job, and his status as an Eagle.

Now, it’s not like every member of the scouts agrees with this policy. The two bosses of the camp were cool with it. It was pretty well known what his sexual orientation was, it was just kept on the down-low because of what a great job he did. They simply HAD to fire him because that’s just what policy was.

Some of my best childhood memories are in the scouts, and it makes me sick that the organization I love treats people like this. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if it was a private organization where that the government stayed out to stay secular, but I guess scouting is just too ingrained in the American image.

Here’s an article that lays it all out in detail, or you can just plug Boy Scouts and Mormon into Google and find plenty more.

An alternative form of funding might help, but I doubt it would really be enough. I think change should come first.