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	<title>Comments on: Help Put a Pro-Atheist Message on British Buses</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Awesomesauce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awesomesauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh mememememe! I want to die for my atheist &quot;cause!&quot;

Since, y&#039;know, this is the only life I get and I&#039;ll cease to exist when I die, I might as well kill myself and waste the precious time I do have.

Oh wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh mememememe! I want to die for my atheist &#8220;cause!&#8221;</p>
<p>Since, y&#8217;know, this is the only life I get and I&#8217;ll cease to exist when I die, I might as well kill myself and waste the precious time I do have.</p>
<p>Oh wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smockingly Mocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smockingly Mocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to test the &quot;probably&quot; component would be to sacrifice an atheist (or two).

We can then conclude scientifically that the killing of an atheist does or does not send one&#039;s soul to Heaven or Hell. If the dead athiest comes back to haunt us then we theists were right after all.

Atheists should have no fear of dying for their cause, in my evaluation. So please, go ahead and die for your non-beliefs.

Do we have any volunteers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to test the &#8220;probably&#8221; component would be to sacrifice an atheist (or two).</p>
<p>We can then conclude scientifically that the killing of an atheist does or does not send one&#8217;s soul to Heaven or Hell. If the dead athiest comes back to haunt us then we theists were right after all.</p>
<p>Atheists should have no fear of dying for their cause, in my evaluation. So please, go ahead and die for your non-beliefs.</p>
<p>Do we have any volunteers?</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist Campaign &#187; Thanks to the bloggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atheist Campaign &#187; Thanks to the bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hemant Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemant Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You said 2250, but it is 2750, right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course it is.  

I will now pretend like I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You said 2250, but it is 2750, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course it is.  </p>
<p>I will now pretend like I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alphager</title>
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		<dc:creator>alphager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;£ 43,812.42&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>£ 43,812.42</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Daniela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said 2250, but it is 2750, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said 2250, but it is 2750, right?</p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secular London will probably just ignore the ads.  Well, maybe.  I&#039;d raise a little snigger at them.  They&#039;ll hardly raise awareness or confront entrenched religious views, not in a city where most people don&#039;t really care about religion.

You really want one of these ads on the side of a Texas School Bus.  That would get people talking about atheism and faith.  That is really the point, after all, not to put down believers but to encourage people to talk about atheism.  Like we&#039;re doing here.

There&#039;s probably no [INSERT NAME OF DEITY HERE]. Now stop worrying and enjoy life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secular London will probably just ignore the ads.  Well, maybe.  I&#8217;d raise a little snigger at them.  They&#8217;ll hardly raise awareness or confront entrenched religious views, not in a city where most people don&#8217;t really care about religion.</p>
<p>You really want one of these ads on the side of a Texas School Bus.  That would get people talking about atheism and faith.  That is really the point, after all, not to put down believers but to encourage people to talk about atheism.  Like we&#8217;re doing here.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably no [INSERT NAME OF DEITY HERE]. Now stop worrying and enjoy life.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;because as a believer I can say “There is a God, now stop worrying and enjoy your life”. Has anyone read what Jesus had to say about sparrows and flowers and worry?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Daniel,

While you (and, of course, many others) find comfort in your Christian beliefs, there are also those who use fear as a means of getting people to believe the same things they do.

There are Christians who make God out to be some sort of cosmic Santa Claus who is watching your every move and just waiting for an excuse to smite you. They worship an angry God whom they believe allows terrorists attacks to happen and who sends natural disasters to punish people for their sins. 

And even in less extreme cases, there are people who do worry because of their faith because they are afraid of accidentally sinning or because they think that they can never please God or because there are things about their life which don&#039;t match up with what their church tells them is the proper way to live.

I think that is a big part of what this ad is addressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>because as a believer I can say “There is a God, now stop worrying and enjoy your life”. Has anyone read what Jesus had to say about sparrows and flowers and worry?</p></blockquote>
<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>While you (and, of course, many others) find comfort in your Christian beliefs, there are also those who use fear as a means of getting people to believe the same things they do.</p>
<p>There are Christians who make God out to be some sort of cosmic Santa Claus who is watching your every move and just waiting for an excuse to smite you. They worship an angry God whom they believe allows terrorists attacks to happen and who sends natural disasters to punish people for their sins. </p>
<p>And even in less extreme cases, there are people who do worry because of their faith because they are afraid of accidentally sinning or because they think that they can never please God or because there are things about their life which don&#8217;t match up with what their church tells them is the proper way to live.</p>
<p>I think that is a big part of what this ad is addressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Hoffman said
No. The 20th century atheistic regimes in the USSR and China killed a lot more than Christianity (or any religion) has ever killed. I know killing others isn’t inherent in atheism, but it makes your point both wrong and moot.

Ah, but there you are conflating deaths caused by atheists with deaths caused by atheism.  Since you admit that slaughter isn&#039;t inherent in atheism, if you want to compare the death counts of atheist Russia and China, then i want to compare the religious bodycount of Europe during the middle ages.  Since pretty much everyone was a theist back then i&#039;m sure you&#039;ll agree that its fine to add up all the deaths caused by murder, war, mistreatment, etc.  And in fact we should really add all those caused by &quot;Acts of god&quot; since he is pretty much a theist too, so thats the plague, earthquakes, tidal waves, etc too.
Now who has the higher bodycount.

Of course we are both wrong to do so.  In the case of the soviet states, atheism or theism wasn&#039;t the problem, ideology and slavish obeidience to it was.  This is a trait that theists share with communists, nationalists and other ideology driven thinkers.  Its is much rarer in atheism because atheism has no tenants of faith, articles to adhere too or rules to follow.  It simply means lack of belief in god/s.

So, can atheists cause mass slaughter? Historically only if they buy into rigid ideologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Hoffman said<br />
No. The 20th century atheistic regimes in the USSR and China killed a lot more than Christianity (or any religion) has ever killed. I know killing others isn’t inherent in atheism, but it makes your point both wrong and moot.</p>
<p>Ah, but there you are conflating deaths caused by atheists with deaths caused by atheism.  Since you admit that slaughter isn&#8217;t inherent in atheism, if you want to compare the death counts of atheist Russia and China, then i want to compare the religious bodycount of Europe during the middle ages.  Since pretty much everyone was a theist back then i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree that its fine to add up all the deaths caused by murder, war, mistreatment, etc.  And in fact we should really add all those caused by &#8220;Acts of god&#8221; since he is pretty much a theist too, so thats the plague, earthquakes, tidal waves, etc too.<br />
Now who has the higher bodycount.</p>
<p>Of course we are both wrong to do so.  In the case of the soviet states, atheism or theism wasn&#8217;t the problem, ideology and slavish obeidience to it was.  This is a trait that theists share with communists, nationalists and other ideology driven thinkers.  Its is much rarer in atheism because atheism has no tenants of faith, articles to adhere too or rules to follow.  It simply means lack of belief in god/s.</p>
<p>So, can atheists cause mass slaughter? Historically only if they buy into rigid ideologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all…cannot tell if your first post was sarcasm or not. It means, thinking dooms the religious…because if you think, you will stop being religious. Oh, I know you think you think…but it is what you pre-occupy your thoughts with that counts. Thinking about virgin births and dead guys raising to save the world and everyone who thinks differently from you being tossed into hell…well that is not really thinking, that is imagining.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, it&#039;s thinking differently than you. Is it only &quot;thinking&quot; when I arrive at your conclusions?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And Daniel…you do know that more death and hate has been spewed in Jesus’ name than any other? Right? So, as an atheist…I do not worry about the afterlife…as the bus ads say…but I do worry about followers of jesus getting any kind of control.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. The 20th century atheistic regimes in the USSR and China killed a lot more than Christianity (or any religion) has ever killed. I know killing others isn&#039;t inherent in atheism, but it makes your point both wrong and moot.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Religon does not have to be true to be deadly…history provides real evidence to be worried about christians in power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

History provides real evidence to be worried about ANYONE being in power. That&#039;s why our founders wrote the constitution as they did. This is not a problem for Christians - we&#039;re the ones who say man is inherently sinful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First of all…cannot tell if your first post was sarcasm or not. It means, thinking dooms the religious…because if you think, you will stop being religious. Oh, I know you think you think…but it is what you pre-occupy your thoughts with that counts. Thinking about virgin births and dead guys raising to save the world and everyone who thinks differently from you being tossed into hell…well that is not really thinking, that is imagining.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, it&#8217;s thinking differently than you. Is it only &#8220;thinking&#8221; when I arrive at your conclusions?</p>
<blockquote><p>And Daniel…you do know that more death and hate has been spewed in Jesus’ name than any other? Right? So, as an atheist…I do not worry about the afterlife…as the bus ads say…but I do worry about followers of jesus getting any kind of control.</p></blockquote>
<p>No. The 20th century atheistic regimes in the USSR and China killed a lot more than Christianity (or any religion) has ever killed. I know killing others isn&#8217;t inherent in atheism, but it makes your point both wrong and moot.</p>
<blockquote><p>Religon does not have to be true to be deadly…history provides real evidence to be worried about christians in power.</p></blockquote>
<p>History provides real evidence to be worried about ANYONE being in power. That&#8217;s why our founders wrote the constitution as they did. This is not a problem for Christians &#8211; we&#8217;re the ones who say man is inherently sinful.</p>
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