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		<title>By: Rev. Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I heard an interview with Mike Huckabee today. He is reflecting everything else I have heard over the last week. He said that you can’t be fiscally conservative and socially liberal and still be a republican.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From Huck&#039;s lips to lack-of-gods&#039; lack-of-ears!

America needs more pitchforks!

OK, I&#039;m not &lt;em&gt;exactly &lt;/em&gt;a Republican, but if you know some, I think that&#039;s a great idea for their next campaign. And remind them we need more wars too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I heard an interview with Mike Huckabee today. He is reflecting everything else I have heard over the last week. He said that you can’t be fiscally conservative and socially liberal and still be a republican.</p></blockquote>
<p>From Huck&#8217;s lips to lack-of-gods&#8217; lack-of-ears!</p>
<p>America needs more pitchforks!</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m not <em>exactly </em>a Republican, but if you know some, I think that&#8217;s a great idea for their next campaign. And remind them we need more wars too.</p>
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		<title>By: Katsu</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/20/gop-needs-less-god/#comment-246726</link>
		<dc:creator>Katsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually was a registered Republican for close to eight years, from the time I was first able to register to vote. About two years ago, I just couldn&#039;t take it any more. My mother and my more liberal friends kept hammering me about the indefensible things the President I&#039;d voted for twice was doing, and I ran out of ways to stick my head in the sand and come up with justifications for him. That, and I simply couldn&#039;t ignore the hijacking the religious nuts had done any more. So I wrote a letter to President Bush and the chairman of the RNC about how they&#039;d made me feel unwelcome in the party and ashamed to be a Republican, and I changed my registration to unaffiliated. 

So... I don&#039;t support them any more. Period. But, while I was part of the Republican party, at least for about the first six years (the last two before I got the hell out were an unpleasant experience in cognitive dissonance land) I supported the platform because I had a job that paid ridiculously well for someone that only had a high school diploma and I was happy to buy into the party lie. When you&#039;ve got a stable, large income, and you&#039;re a stupid, selfish kid, it&#039;s not much of a leap to WANT to believe that people who don&#039;t have it as good of you are in that boat because they&#039;re lazy and don&#039;t want to work hard, that welfare programs steal the money of hard-working Americans like ourselves and give it to lazy welfare queens, and that while our health care is bad it&#039;s better than having evil socialized medicine (this was before I was in a committed relationship with my British significant other). I even used to watch Bill O&#039;Reilly (though before he was quite as frothy as he is now) and I even bought the &#039;Christians are being picked on&#039; BS for a limited time until I got a good blast of how those same, picked-on Christians would treat me if they had their their druthers. About the time I started hearing the &quot;America is a Christian Nation&quot; claim and the vicious rhetoric against gay marriage, I was done.

From where I&#039;m standing now, I can&#039;t help but feel ashamed of how I voted in several past elections, and how I willingly welcomed deception and even hatred of those less fortunate than myself into my life. However, I think it&#039;d be a lot more shameful if I hadn&#039;t pulled my head out of my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually was a registered Republican for close to eight years, from the time I was first able to register to vote. About two years ago, I just couldn&#8217;t take it any more. My mother and my more liberal friends kept hammering me about the indefensible things the President I&#8217;d voted for twice was doing, and I ran out of ways to stick my head in the sand and come up with justifications for him. That, and I simply couldn&#8217;t ignore the hijacking the religious nuts had done any more. So I wrote a letter to President Bush and the chairman of the RNC about how they&#8217;d made me feel unwelcome in the party and ashamed to be a Republican, and I changed my registration to unaffiliated. </p>
<p>So&#8230; I don&#8217;t support them any more. Period. But, while I was part of the Republican party, at least for about the first six years (the last two before I got the hell out were an unpleasant experience in cognitive dissonance land) I supported the platform because I had a job that paid ridiculously well for someone that only had a high school diploma and I was happy to buy into the party lie. When you&#8217;ve got a stable, large income, and you&#8217;re a stupid, selfish kid, it&#8217;s not much of a leap to WANT to believe that people who don&#8217;t have it as good of you are in that boat because they&#8217;re lazy and don&#8217;t want to work hard, that welfare programs steal the money of hard-working Americans like ourselves and give it to lazy welfare queens, and that while our health care is bad it&#8217;s better than having evil socialized medicine (this was before I was in a committed relationship with my British significant other). I even used to watch Bill O&#8217;Reilly (though before he was quite as frothy as he is now) and I even bought the &#8216;Christians are being picked on&#8217; BS for a limited time until I got a good blast of how those same, picked-on Christians would treat me if they had their their druthers. About the time I started hearing the &#8220;America is a Christian Nation&#8221; claim and the vicious rhetoric against gay marriage, I was done.</p>
<p>From where I&#8217;m standing now, I can&#8217;t help but feel ashamed of how I voted in several past elections, and how I willingly welcomed deception and even hatred of those less fortunate than myself into my life. However, I think it&#8217;d be a lot more shameful if I hadn&#8217;t pulled my head out of my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/20/gop-needs-less-god/#comment-246637</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard an interview with Mike Huckabee today. He is reflecting everything else I have heard over the last week. He said that you can&#039;t be fiscally conservative and socially liberal and still be a republican. He said that if you were socially liberal and fiscally conservative then you are a libertarian and not a true republican and they don&#039;t want you in their party. According to him you must be socailly conservative to be a republican. I think they may be in trouble for a little while. Or not. Who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard an interview with Mike Huckabee today. He is reflecting everything else I have heard over the last week. He said that you can&#8217;t be fiscally conservative and socially liberal and still be a republican. He said that if you were socially liberal and fiscally conservative then you are a libertarian and not a true republican and they don&#8217;t want you in their party. According to him you must be socailly conservative to be a republican. I think they may be in trouble for a little while. Or not. Who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: astrogal</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrogal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first time commenter, whoo!

I&#039;m a college kid going to perhaps the most conservative, religious public university in the US (you might&#039;ve seen us on CNN for our anti-Obama rally the week before elections... I&#039;m only here because it&#039;s free and I&#039;m in the best program for my major!), and I&#039;m a Republican because I align myself more along their policies than Democrats. That&#039;s not to say I wouldn&#039;t vote Democratic (which I did for some local positions), and had I agreed with Obama, then I would&#039;ve voted for him. If I like him more in 4 years than the Republican candidate, then I&#039;ll vote for him.

In other words, politics shouldn&#039;t concern a single party, you should vote for whichever candidate agrees best with your world view!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first time commenter, whoo!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a college kid going to perhaps the most conservative, religious public university in the US (you might&#8217;ve seen us on CNN for our anti-Obama rally the week before elections&#8230; I&#8217;m only here because it&#8217;s free and I&#8217;m in the best program for my major!), and I&#8217;m a Republican because I align myself more along their policies than Democrats. That&#8217;s not to say I wouldn&#8217;t vote Democratic (which I did for some local positions), and had I agreed with Obama, then I would&#8217;ve voted for him. If I like him more in 4 years than the Republican candidate, then I&#8217;ll vote for him.</p>
<p>In other words, politics shouldn&#8217;t concern a single party, you should vote for whichever candidate agrees best with your world view!</p>
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		<title>By: Bing McGhandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bing McGhandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;While there are many Christians who are Democrats, the Conservative Christians aren’t going anywhere else right now. &lt;/em&gt;

Hello?  They&#039;re going up Heaven&#039;s Chimney?  Remember?  There are going to be little piles of clothes without smug people in them.  Hurry up with that rapture, whydontcha!

HJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>While there are many Christians who are Democrats, the Conservative Christians aren’t going anywhere else right now. </em></p>
<p>Hello?  They&#8217;re going up Heaven&#8217;s Chimney?  Remember?  There are going to be little piles of clothes without smug people in them.  Hurry up with that rapture, whydontcha!</p>
<p>HJ</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/20/gop-needs-less-god/#comment-246598</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheist, woman, pro small government, fiscal conservative, pro strong military, pro secure borders, pro personal responsibility,  socially liberal but towards the pro-life end of the choice debate.  

There are a surprising number of conservative republicans who do not believe in god but do not like identifying themselves with the atheist community.  For example: anyone in Boston who has listened to conservative talk show host Howie Carr on AM radio... Surprise, he is an Atheist by definition, but distances himself from the stereotypical rabid left atheist to the extent that he doesn&#039;t even use the word to describe himself.  I know a lot of atheists like this and I wish the atheist community could disentangle itself from the far left and be a group that we all can identify with without caveats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheist, woman, pro small government, fiscal conservative, pro strong military, pro secure borders, pro personal responsibility,  socially liberal but towards the pro-life end of the choice debate.  </p>
<p>There are a surprising number of conservative republicans who do not believe in god but do not like identifying themselves with the atheist community.  For example: anyone in Boston who has listened to conservative talk show host Howie Carr on AM radio&#8230; Surprise, he is an Atheist by definition, but distances himself from the stereotypical rabid left atheist to the extent that he doesn&#8217;t even use the word to describe himself.  I know a lot of atheists like this and I wish the atheist community could disentangle itself from the far left and be a group that we all can identify with without caveats.</p>
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		<title>By: NeuroLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m in love with Transplanted Lawyer, RobL, and ATL-Apostate :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m in love with Transplanted Lawyer, RobL, and ATL-Apostate <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an atheist, anti-abortion, pro-choice, pro-gay, small government conservative Republican.

The Godbots have hijacked the Republican party and given rise to the hideous monstrosities that are neo-cons.  Excuse me if I&#039;m not compelled to join the Democratic Party.  My principles haven&#039;t subverted.  I&#039;m not going to change my mind on foreign relations, taxes, the environment or welfare reform because GWB has proven to be an idiot and the GOP has been too complacent in its self-righteousness to recognize the trouble they&#039;re in.

If I had another choice that wasn&#039;t full of whack-jobs, I&#039;d take it.  We need a serious effort to create a third party.  The Libertarians and the Greenies aren&#039;t the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an atheist, anti-abortion, pro-choice, pro-gay, small government conservative Republican.</p>
<p>The Godbots have hijacked the Republican party and given rise to the hideous monstrosities that are neo-cons.  Excuse me if I&#8217;m not compelled to join the Democratic Party.  My principles haven&#8217;t subverted.  I&#8217;m not going to change my mind on foreign relations, taxes, the environment or welfare reform because GWB has proven to be an idiot and the GOP has been too complacent in its self-righteousness to recognize the trouble they&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>If I had another choice that wasn&#8217;t full of whack-jobs, I&#8217;d take it.  We need a serious effort to create a third party.  The Libertarians and the Greenies aren&#8217;t the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Personally, I think that if the Republicans would adopt the Libertarian platform (without actually saying it, and disguising it somewhat from the evangelicals - it wouldn’t be hard to trick them - they believe in ghosts, talking snakes, etc)...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Given wide-spread Libertarian worship of Ron Paul and Bob Barr, the reverse is already happening.</description>
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Personally, I think that if the Republicans would adopt the Libertarian platform (without actually saying it, and disguising it somewhat from the evangelicals &#8211; it wouldn’t be hard to trick them &#8211; they believe in ghosts, talking snakes, etc)&#8230;
</p></blockquote>
<p>Given wide-spread Libertarian worship of Ron Paul and Bob Barr, the reverse is already happening.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect to &#039;a strong military or fiscal responsibility&#039;, people should recall that when each of Wilson, FDR, Nixon, Reagan, and G.W. Bush strengthened the military, the federal deficit expanded. Only Truman and Eisenhower oversaw military buildup without large deficit increases - and they did it in the days when tax brackets ran up to 90%, and the economy was at its strongest point in the 20th century. Notably, when massive military cutbacks occurred during the Clinton years, a deficit turned into a surplus.

Without both a strong economy and high taxes, strong military and fiscal responsibility cannot both be maintained at the same time. If the current crisis (primarily due to Bush, the Republicans, and free-market theology) is half as bad as it looks, America will in all likelyhood be forced to abandon the majority of it&#039;s current military power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to &#8216;a strong military or fiscal responsibility&#8217;, people should recall that when each of Wilson, FDR, Nixon, Reagan, and G.W. Bush strengthened the military, the federal deficit expanded. Only Truman and Eisenhower oversaw military buildup without large deficit increases &#8211; and they did it in the days when tax brackets ran up to 90%, and the economy was at its strongest point in the 20th century. Notably, when massive military cutbacks occurred during the Clinton years, a deficit turned into a surplus.</p>
<p>Without both a strong economy and high taxes, strong military and fiscal responsibility cannot both be maintained at the same time. If the current crisis (primarily due to Bush, the Republicans, and free-market theology) is half as bad as it looks, America will in all likelyhood be forced to abandon the majority of it&#8217;s current military power.</p>
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