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		<title>By: Epistaxis</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/20/what-political-events-in-2008-made-atheists-cringe/#comment-246658</link>
		<dc:creator>Epistaxis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time someone pretended Obama is a Muslim, up until Colin Powell finally said &quot;so what if he is?&quot;

I believe in no religious test for office. Even as an atheist, I&#039;d rather vote for a qualified Christian or Muslim than an unqualified nonbeliever, as long as her private religious beliefs have no undue influence on her policy decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time someone pretended Obama is a Muslim, up until Colin Powell finally said &#8220;so what if he is?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe in no religious test for office. Even as an atheist, I&#8217;d rather vote for a qualified Christian or Muslim than an unqualified nonbeliever, as long as her private religious beliefs have no undue influence on her policy decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Shaggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father Shaggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably don&#039;t care, but we had a federal election up here in Canada.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chp.ca/en/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christian Heritage Party&lt;/a&gt; ran in fewer than 1/5 of the ridings in the country, and got 0.2% of the popular vote.  They elected nobody, but the fact that there&#039;s an actual theocratic party in my country that gets over 26,000 votes makes my ass twitch.

The bill themselves as &quot;Canada&#039;s only pro-Life, pro-family political party&quot;.  They&#039;re odious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably don&#8217;t care, but we had a federal election up here in Canada.  The <a href="http://www.chp.ca/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">Christian Heritage Party</a> ran in fewer than 1/5 of the ridings in the country, and got 0.2% of the popular vote.  They elected nobody, but the fact that there&#8217;s an actual theocratic party in my country that gets over 26,000 votes makes my ass twitch.</p>
<p>The bill themselves as &#8220;Canada&#8217;s only pro-Life, pro-family political party&#8221;.  They&#8217;re odious.</p>
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		<title>By: INTJ Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>INTJ Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the things already mentioned were on my list.  Before the Mormons and the rest of the religious right got so involved in the Prop 8 issue, I was to the point where I&#039;d let go of my Mormon past and I was fence sitting like 5ive mentioned.  The whole Prop 8 issue has gotten me all vehemently anti-Mormon and anti-religion in general again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the things already mentioned were on my list.  Before the Mormons and the rest of the religious right got so involved in the Prop 8 issue, I was to the point where I&#8217;d let go of my Mormon past and I was fence sitting like 5ive mentioned.  The whole Prop 8 issue has gotten me all vehemently anti-Mormon and anti-religion in general again.</p>
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		<title>By: 5ive</title>
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		<dc:creator>5ive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The passing of prop 8. As someone with no god belief, I cannot comprehend how it can cause harm if 2 people who love each other get married. This was the tipping point  off the religious beliefs are ok for other people fence. Now that religion has forced its way into the government so overtly, I no longer think anyone should hold any religious beliefs without question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The passing of prop 8. As someone with no god belief, I cannot comprehend how it can cause harm if 2 people who love each other get married. This was the tipping point  off the religious beliefs are ok for other people fence. Now that religion has forced its way into the government so overtly, I no longer think anyone should hold any religious beliefs without question.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reader could check out U.S. Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC).  Inglis&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inglisforcongress.com/AmericaWinsActionPlan.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;America Wins Action Plan&lt;/a&gt; is still available via his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inglisforcongress.com/issues.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;campaign web site&lt;/a&gt;.  Pages 11 and 12 explain how his issue stances are rooted in the biblical worldview.  Lots of scripture.  

&quot;The journey begins with what we believe.  If we really believe that God is sovereign...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reader could check out U.S. Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC).  Inglis&#8217; <a href="http://www.inglisforcongress.com/AmericaWinsActionPlan.pdf" rel="nofollow">America Wins Action Plan</a> is still available via his <a href="http://www.inglisforcongress.com/issues.asp" rel="nofollow">campaign web site</a>.  Pages 11 and 12 explain how his issue stances are rooted in the biblical worldview.  Lots of scripture.  </p>
<p>&#8220;The journey begins with what we believe.  If we really believe that God is sovereign&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say this made me cringe &lt;blockquote&gt;Don Miller, an author and social conservative who delivered a prayer at the Democratic convention, said, &quot;Senator Obama has a policy director and an advisor for many different faiths. He has nothing on atheists or agnostics. There&#039;s not this grand effort for the Democrats to reach out to a group of pagans to try to get them to vote for Senator Obama.&quot;

D. Paul Monteiro, Obama&#039;s National Deputy Director for Religious Affairs, then said, &quot;Senator Obama has a twenty-year history, a twenty-year testimony&quot; and described Obama&#039;s support for Bush&#039;s &quot;faith-based partnership program&quot; and how Obama said &quot;no&quot; to those who distributed flyers at the Democratic National Convention urging him, on the basis of church-state separation, to oppose public funding of faith-based initiatives.

Then, referring to Sen. Obama, Monteiro proclaimed, &quot;This is not some crazy wacko atheist trying to make sure that your children grow up to marry trees.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2008/10/30/obama_aids_diss_atheists The very existence of Sarah Palin also made me cringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say this made me cringe<br />
<blockquote>Don Miller, an author and social conservative who delivered a prayer at the Democratic convention, said, &#8220;Senator Obama has a policy director and an advisor for many different faiths. He has nothing on atheists or agnostics. There&#8217;s not this grand effort for the Democrats to reach out to a group of pagans to try to get them to vote for Senator Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>D. Paul Monteiro, Obama&#8217;s National Deputy Director for Religious Affairs, then said, &#8220;Senator Obama has a twenty-year history, a twenty-year testimony&#8221; and described Obama&#8217;s support for Bush&#8217;s &#8220;faith-based partnership program&#8221; and how Obama said &#8220;no&#8221; to those who distributed flyers at the Democratic National Convention urging him, on the basis of church-state separation, to oppose public funding of faith-based initiatives.</p>
<p>Then, referring to Sen. Obama, Monteiro proclaimed, &#8220;This is not some crazy wacko atheist trying to make sure that your children grow up to marry trees.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2008/10/30/obama_aids_diss_atheists" rel="nofollow">http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2008/10/30/obama_aids_diss_atheists</a> The very existence of Sarah Palin also made me cringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Huckabee: “…it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do - to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A winnar is you. Well, more accurately, a winnar is not you, Mr Huckabee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Huckabee: “…it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do &#8211; to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”</p></blockquote>
<p>A winnar is you. Well, more accurately, a winnar is not you, Mr Huckabee.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Romney: “When I place my hand on the Bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to God.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
When Romney said this, did he cross his fingers behind his back, and think: &#039;only insofar as it is translated correctly&#039;?

(Mormons &#039;... believe the bible to be the Word of God only insofar as it is translated correctly&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Romney: “When I place my hand on the Bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to God.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>When Romney said this, did he cross his fingers behind his back, and think: &#8216;only insofar as it is translated correctly&#8217;?</p>
<p>(Mormons &#8216;&#8230; believe the bible to be the Word of God only insofar as it is translated correctly&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nomination of Sarah Palin.

Honestly, as a Libertarian, I thought McCain was the better of all of the Republicans, had he not made the choice to pander to the religious right. He lost my vote as soon as Sarah Palin was selected as his running mate.

Barack Obama then became the next logical choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nomination of Sarah Palin.</p>
<p>Honestly, as a Libertarian, I thought McCain was the better of all of the Republicans, had he not made the choice to pander to the religious right. He lost my vote as soon as Sarah Palin was selected as his running mate.</p>
<p>Barack Obama then became the next logical choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically not in 2008 but pertinent:
Governor Mitt Romney’s speech on Dec. 6, 2007 at the George Bush Presidential Library had several cringable passages about liberty coming from God rather than from our Constitution, but this one made me stand up and scream:  (emphasis mine)

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We separate church and state affairs in this country, and for good reason. No religion should dictate to the state nor should the state interfere with the free practice of religion. But in recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning.  They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God.  Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life.  &lt;strong&gt;It is as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America – the religion of secularism.&lt;/strong&gt;  They are wrong. 

&quot;The founders proscribed the establishment of a state religion, but they did not countenance the elimination of religion from the public square.  We are a nation &#039;Under God&#039; and in God, we do indeed trust.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Whereupon Romney made a transparent attempt to create a secular scapegoat, a common enemy against which he and the Evangelical right would unite to defeat.  Fortunately they didn&#039;t buy it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically not in 2008 but pertinent:<br />
Governor Mitt Romney’s speech on Dec. 6, 2007 at the George Bush Presidential Library had several cringable passages about liberty coming from God rather than from our Constitution, but this one made me stand up and scream:  (emphasis mine)</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We separate church and state affairs in this country, and for good reason. No religion should dictate to the state nor should the state interfere with the free practice of religion. But in recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning.  They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God.  Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life.  <strong>It is as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America – the religion of secularism.</strong>  They are wrong. </p>
<p>&#8220;The founders proscribed the establishment of a state religion, but they did not countenance the elimination of religion from the public square.  We are a nation &#8216;Under God&#8217; and in God, we do indeed trust.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whereupon Romney made a transparent attempt to create a secular scapegoat, a common enemy against which he and the Evangelical right would unite to defeat.  Fortunately they didn&#8217;t buy it</p>
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