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	<title>Comments on: Questioning God is Apparently Hate Speech</title>
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		<title>By: EvilGod</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-288327</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Monica
Why would there need to be a &quot;If you&#039;re a hypocrite, you&#039;re not alone&quot; billboard? They know they&#039;re not alone, they have a huge support network and can meet up with other hypocrites at meetings all over the country every Sunday.
This billboard isn&#039;t aimed at you or the other &quot;People who waste way too much time refusing to listen, to change, to admit they&#039;re wrong, so they defend themselves&quot; It&#039;s aimed at those who have rational doubts.
Those who are strong in their faith aren&#039;t so easily offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Monica<br />
Why would there need to be a &#8220;If you&#8217;re a hypocrite, you&#8217;re not alone&#8221; billboard? They know they&#8217;re not alone, they have a huge support network and can meet up with other hypocrites at meetings all over the country every Sunday.<br />
This billboard isn&#8217;t aimed at you or the other &#8220;People who waste way too much time refusing to listen, to change, to admit they&#8217;re wrong, so they defend themselves&#8221; It&#8217;s aimed at those who have rational doubts.<br />
Those who are strong in their faith aren&#8217;t so easily offended.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-271769</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not about believing or not believing in God; no billboard that says &quot;I dont believe in x political party&quot; or &quot;I dont like x TV channel&quot; or &quot;I dont like x basketball player&quot; will be taken as friendly. Why is it soooo hard to focus on sharing good ideas and love and peace, instead of being subtle at attacking each other. If it was merely about sharing a feeling, why are there no billboards saying &quot;If you&#039;re divorced, you&#039;re not alone&quot;, &quot;If you&#039;re fat, you&#039;re not alone&quot;, &quot;If you&#039;re a hypocrite, you&#039;re not alone&quot;. People waste way too much time refusing to listen, to change, to admit they&#039;re wrong, so they defend themselves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about believing or not believing in God; no billboard that says &#8220;I dont believe in x political party&#8221; or &#8220;I dont like x TV channel&#8221; or &#8220;I dont like x basketball player&#8221; will be taken as friendly. Why is it soooo hard to focus on sharing good ideas and love and peace, instead of being subtle at attacking each other. If it was merely about sharing a feeling, why are there no billboards saying &#8220;If you&#8217;re divorced, you&#8217;re not alone&#8221;, &#8220;If you&#8217;re fat, you&#8217;re not alone&#8221;, &#8220;If you&#8217;re a hypocrite, you&#8217;re not alone&#8221;. People waste way too much time refusing to listen, to change, to admit they&#8217;re wrong, so they defend themselves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EvilGod</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-255826</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tkl &lt;blockquote&gt;I fail to see the issue here. Should Christians not have the right to voice their opposition ?

This has got nothing to do with free/hate speech .

The onus is on the billboard companies or whoever owns the ad space. Take up the issue with them. Everyone can be offended by everything and voice their approval or lack thereof.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The issue is hypocrisy. The complaining xtians have no problem with their use of free speech but no one else&#039;s. And although we atheists see that the fact they feel that we have threatened their religion somehow, whilst not actually making a statement against any religion at all shows that they have doubts, we know that they&#039;ll never see it. As for the right to complain, no one is saying they don&#039;t have the right but a little sense would be nice. Do those with Peanut allergies complain when they see a billboard advertising Peanut Butter? We are just making the insane argument that christians should behave rationally.
Did anybody of any other religion complain or were they strong enough in their faith that they knew it wasn&#039;t referring to their god?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tkl<br />
<blockquote>I fail to see the issue here. Should Christians not have the right to voice their opposition ?</p>
<p>This has got nothing to do with free/hate speech .</p>
<p>The onus is on the billboard companies or whoever owns the ad space. Take up the issue with them. Everyone can be offended by everything and voice their approval or lack thereof.</p></blockquote>
<p>The issue is hypocrisy. The complaining xtians have no problem with their use of free speech but no one else&#8217;s. And although we atheists see that the fact they feel that we have threatened their religion somehow, whilst not actually making a statement against any religion at all shows that they have doubts, we know that they&#8217;ll never see it. As for the right to complain, no one is saying they don&#8217;t have the right but a little sense would be nice. Do those with Peanut allergies complain when they see a billboard advertising Peanut Butter? We are just making the insane argument that christians should behave rationally.<br />
Did anybody of any other religion complain or were they strong enough in their faith that they knew it wasn&#8217;t referring to their god?</p>
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		<title>By: The Language Battle (1): Discrimination Without a Retort &#171; Homosecular Gaytheist (and friends!)</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-250041</link>
		<dc:creator>The Language Battle (1): Discrimination Without a Retort &#171; Homosecular Gaytheist (and friends!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn’t it so hard to be a Christian in America?&#160; Good thing you can look around and have the WHOLE REST OF OUR CULTURE supporting your world [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn’t it so hard to be a Christian in America?&#160; Good thing you can look around and have the WHOLE REST OF OUR CULTURE supporting your world [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve_1</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249925</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the sign on Hwy 24 near Academy in Colorado Springs (Platte Ave) and it made me smile.  I had heard of the signs up in Denver but hadn&#039;t realized we had one here.  Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the sign on Hwy 24 near Academy in Colorado Springs (Platte Ave) and it made me smile.  I had heard of the signs up in Denver but hadn&#8217;t realized we had one here.  Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249550</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>humanist,
&lt;blockquote&gt;I see a colorless gas? I don’t think so. In this case I see clouds (not water and dust) and diffused blue light due to wavelength filtering, and of course there’s much more to see in the sky than that. Naive reductionism is an erroneous ontology.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you for your skilled demonstration of how to miss the point. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>humanist,</p>
<blockquote><p>I see a colorless gas? I don’t think so. In this case I see clouds (not water and dust) and diffused blue light due to wavelength filtering, and of course there’s much more to see in the sky than that. Naive reductionism is an erroneous ontology.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you for your skilled demonstration of how to miss the point. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Message to the Religious Who Support Equal Rights - Secular Discrimination Report</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249548</link>
		<dc:creator>Message to the Religious Who Support Equal Rights - Secular Discrimination Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agree with them.  Although much rarer, this can even show itself through blog comments such as this one on The Friendly Atheist&#8217;s post about the removal of the atheist billboard I discussed last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] agree with them.  Although much rarer, this can even show itself through blog comments such as this one on The Friendly Atheist&#8217;s post about the removal of the atheist billboard I discussed last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SDR</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249544</link>
		<dc:creator>SDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people who keep saying &quot;THIS ISN&#039;T A FREE SPEECH ISSUE!&quot; need to give it a rest.  No one is claiming it&#039;s a free speech issues, that doesn&#039;t change that fact that it is bigoted censorship.  Something doesn&#039;t have to violate the First Amendment to be censorship and/or be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people who keep saying &#8220;THIS ISN&#8217;T A FREE SPEECH ISSUE!&#8221; need to give it a rest.  No one is claiming it&#8217;s a free speech issues, that doesn&#8217;t change that fact that it is bigoted censorship.  Something doesn&#8217;t have to violate the First Amendment to be censorship and/or be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: humanist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249522</link>
		<dc:creator>humanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;They see gas, water and dust.&lt;/em&gt;

I see a colorless gas? I don&#039;t think so. In this case I see clouds (not water and dust) and diffused blue light due to wavelength filtering, and of course there&#039;s much more to see in the sky than that. Naive reductionism is an erroneous ontology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They see gas, water and dust.</em></p>
<p>I see a colorless gas? I don&#8217;t think so. In this case I see clouds (not water and dust) and diffused blue light due to wavelength filtering, and of course there&#8217;s much more to see in the sky than that. Naive reductionism is an erroneous ontology.</p>
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		<title>By: humanist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/11/30/questioning-god-is-apparently-hate-speech/#comment-249520</link>
		<dc:creator>humanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I fail to see the issue here.&lt;/em&gt;

Some people wear their ignorance and inability to comprehend like a badge of honor.

&lt;em&gt;But I do have a problem with the “what’d I do?” attitude of organized atheism.&lt;/em&gt;

Bully for you and your victim-blaming.

&lt;em&gt;Don’t you think using a picture of the heavens in a message questioning the existence of God is a little confrontational?&lt;/em&gt;

I suppose it confronts people so stupid that they think there&#039;s actually a fairy up in the sky, but most Christians claim that their conception of God is more sophisticated than that. The fact is that simply proclaiming oneself an atheist, or even implying that atheists aren&#039;t demons, is viewed as confrontational by many Christians -- notably, the sort who are complaining about these billboards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I fail to see the issue here.</em></p>
<p>Some people wear their ignorance and inability to comprehend like a badge of honor.</p>
<p><em>But I do have a problem with the “what’d I do?” attitude of organized atheism.</em></p>
<p>Bully for you and your victim-blaming.</p>
<p><em>Don’t you think using a picture of the heavens in a message questioning the existence of God is a little confrontational?</em></p>
<p>I suppose it confronts people so stupid that they think there&#8217;s actually a fairy up in the sky, but most Christians claim that their conception of God is more sophisticated than that. The fact is that simply proclaiming oneself an atheist, or even implying that atheists aren&#8217;t demons, is viewed as confrontational by many Christians &#8212; notably, the sort who are complaining about these billboards.</p>
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