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	<title>Comments on: Would You Help Restore a Nativity Scene?</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: The Meming of Life &#187; A Krismas potpourri Parenting Beyond Belief on secular parenting and other natural wonders</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/13/would-you-help-restore-a-nativity-scene/#comment-253050</link>
		<dc:creator>The Meming of Life &#187; A Krismas potpourri Parenting Beyond Belief on secular parenting and other natural wonders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hemant Mehta picked up the story as well and agreed with my suggestion, as did most of his commenters. A good sign. Now let&#8217;s get a rapid response mechanism in place for the future. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hemant Mehta picked up the story as well and agreed with my suggestion, as did most of his commenters. A good sign. Now let&#8217;s get a rapid response mechanism in place for the future. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Science Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/13/would-you-help-restore-a-nativity-scene/#comment-252274</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably would help them restore the damaged nativity scene provided:

&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; I knew some of the church people who were victimized by the vandalism, and

&lt;strong&gt;B:&lt;/strong&gt; they don&#039;t have a problem with me wearing my &quot;&lt;em&gt;Hi, I&#039;m your friendly neighborhood atheist&lt;/em&gt;&quot; t-shirt while helping them.

Of course, it&#039;s one thing to sit at my computer and speculate as to how I might behave in some hypothetical situation, and what I would actually do if faced with such a situation--together with all the nuances that are missing from the hypothetical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably would help them restore the damaged nativity scene provided:</p>
<p><strong>A:</strong> I knew some of the church people who were victimized by the vandalism, and</p>
<p><strong>B:</strong> they don&#8217;t have a problem with me wearing my &#8220;<em>Hi, I&#8217;m your friendly neighborhood atheist</em>&#8221; t-shirt while helping them.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s one thing to sit at my computer and speculate as to how I might behave in some hypothetical situation, and what I would actually do if faced with such a situation&#8211;together with all the nuances that are missing from the hypothetical.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to believe that the vandalism was an act of criminal sociopathy rather than atheistic ideology, but whatever the reason, what a crappy thing to do.  Kudos to Dale.

And yes, I know: &quot;atheism isn&#039;t an ideology&quot;. I don&#039;t imply by the term &quot;atheistic ideology&quot; that atheism is an ideology--just that certain ideologies are based upon an atheistic premise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to believe that the vandalism was an act of criminal sociopathy rather than atheistic ideology, but whatever the reason, what a crappy thing to do.  Kudos to Dale.</p>
<p>And yes, I know: &#8220;atheism isn&#8217;t an ideology&#8221;. I don&#8217;t imply by the term &#8220;atheistic ideology&#8221; that atheism is an ideology&#8211;just that certain ideologies are based upon an atheistic premise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Partiot</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/13/would-you-help-restore-a-nativity-scene/#comment-252262</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex Partiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is totally wrong, and I hope none of the non believing community was responsible for this. I wouldn&#039;t doubt if it wasn&#039;t some of their own flock that did do it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is totally wrong, and I hope none of the non believing community was responsible for this. I wouldn&#8217;t doubt if it wasn&#8217;t some of their own flock that did do it</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it just me, or does anyone else think that photo looks doctored?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I see no reason to think so. Posed,  yes, but not doctored. If you think the lighting looks a bit odd, it&#039;s because the foreground is in shadow, and the photographer has used a fill-in flash.

I&#039;ll go along with Glen in saying that the idea of a drive-through nativity scene is pretty bizarre, and one to remember when theists next accuse atheists of lacking taste. And I&#039;ll go along with everyone in unreservedly condemning the vandalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it just me, or does anyone else think that photo looks doctored?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I see no reason to think so. Posed,  yes, but not doctored. If you think the lighting looks a bit odd, it&#8217;s because the foreground is in shadow, and the photographer has used a fill-in flash.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go along with Glen in saying that the idea of a drive-through nativity scene is pretty bizarre, and one to remember when theists next accuse atheists of lacking taste. And I&#8217;ll go along with everyone in unreservedly condemning the vandalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Skepticat</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/13/would-you-help-restore-a-nativity-scene/#comment-252235</link>
		<dc:creator>Skepticat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only am I against this vandalism but I would also help them repair their nativity scene if I lived close by. If we don&#039;t stand up for other people&#039;s free speech and property rights, how can we ever expect them to stand up for ours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only am I against this vandalism but I would also help them repair their nativity scene if I lived close by. If we don&#8217;t stand up for other people&#8217;s free speech and property rights, how can we ever expect them to stand up for ours?</p>
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		<title>By: FrodoSaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrodoSaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or does anyone else think that photo looks doctored?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does anyone else think that photo looks doctored?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart goes out to the people who put their time, effort and money into creating this project...just to see it destroyed.  I wish I lived close enough to be able to help them put the pieces back together.

I know many of you have expressed more eloquently than I how horrid this is, and I echo the hope that the vandals who did this wretched act are caught (and punished to the fullest extent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to the people who put their time, effort and money into creating this project&#8230;just to see it destroyed.  I wish I lived close enough to be able to help them put the pieces back together.</p>
<p>I know many of you have expressed more eloquently than I how horrid this is, and I echo the hope that the vandals who did this wretched act are caught (and punished to the fullest extent).</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealing a sign or running off with the baby Jesus is NOT the same as completely demolishing property like in this situation.  So I&#039;d like to think I&#039;d get involved in the cleanup.  As part of a community action...a good citizen action.  I wouldn&#039;t bring up my athiesm...I normally don&#039;t in everyday life.  

One of the UPS drivers that I work with noticed Mary, Joseph, and Jesus plastic figurines sticking out of the melting snow this past spring.  They were pitched out in a cornfield...he knew where they belonged, so he returned them. (Small town; he knows his customers!)  I know it&#039;s a case of vandalism and it&#039;s valuable property to somebody but it was still a funny story at the time.  And it had a happy ending. The case mentioned above sounded a lot more serious and mean-spirited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealing a sign or running off with the baby Jesus is NOT the same as completely demolishing property like in this situation.  So I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;d get involved in the cleanup.  As part of a community action&#8230;a good citizen action.  I wouldn&#8217;t bring up my athiesm&#8230;I normally don&#8217;t in everyday life.  </p>
<p>One of the UPS drivers that I work with noticed Mary, Joseph, and Jesus plastic figurines sticking out of the melting snow this past spring.  They were pitched out in a cornfield&#8230;he knew where they belonged, so he returned them. (Small town; he knows his customers!)  I know it&#8217;s a case of vandalism and it&#8217;s valuable property to somebody but it was still a funny story at the time.  And it had a happy ending. The case mentioned above sounded a lot more serious and mean-spirited.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with Richard&#039;s fine comments.

As a former Christian, I know what it&#039;s like to feel a certain reverence towards these displays. When I heard about this I was sad -- not about the symbolism but because the people who put it together probably had their hearts broken when this happened.

It&#039;s one thing to not believe in their religion or even go so far as to write a book explaining why we feel their religion makes no sense. But it&#039;s another to drive an emotional stake into their hearts, something I refuse to do.

This is probably going to sound kind of strange to a lot of people, but one of my biggest concerns about me being so vocal against Christianity is that of hurting people&#039;s feelings. I don&#039;t want to do that. These are people, first and foremost, no matter how much I disagree with their ideas (and even at times question their intelligence). They&#039;re people with feelings, and hurting those feelings doesn&#039;t promote our cause in the least. And even if one doesn&#039;t feel empathy towards the people, if nothing more, attacking them just emboldens them.

And &quot;emboldened&quot; is probably how these people felt a day or two later. I would almost bet, having been a Christian myself, that the next day these people are feeling stronger in their conviction that they&#039;re fighting evil and that God is with them even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with Richard&#8217;s fine comments.</p>
<p>As a former Christian, I know what it&#8217;s like to feel a certain reverence towards these displays. When I heard about this I was sad &#8212; not about the symbolism but because the people who put it together probably had their hearts broken when this happened.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to not believe in their religion or even go so far as to write a book explaining why we feel their religion makes no sense. But it&#8217;s another to drive an emotional stake into their hearts, something I refuse to do.</p>
<p>This is probably going to sound kind of strange to a lot of people, but one of my biggest concerns about me being so vocal against Christianity is that of hurting people&#8217;s feelings. I don&#8217;t want to do that. These are people, first and foremost, no matter how much I disagree with their ideas (and even at times question their intelligence). They&#8217;re people with feelings, and hurting those feelings doesn&#8217;t promote our cause in the least. And even if one doesn&#8217;t feel empathy towards the people, if nothing more, attacking them just emboldens them.</p>
<p>And &#8220;emboldened&#8221; is probably how these people felt a day or two later. I would almost bet, having been a Christian myself, that the next day these people are feeling stronger in their conviction that they&#8217;re fighting evil and that God is with them even more.</p>
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