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	<title>Comments on: Did an Angel Save Her Daughter&#8217;s Life?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you left out is that the picture they showed on &lt;i&gt;Today&lt;/i&gt; and reproduced above was taken &lt;b&gt;with the mother&#039;s cell phone camera&lt;/b&gt;. That&#039;s another source of light that could be causing the reflection, the light from the room in which the videotape of the was viewed and photographed.

Have you ever tried to take a picture of a TV or of an aquatic animal in an aquarium? This glare is exactly what you&#039;d expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you left out is that the picture they showed on <i>Today</i> and reproduced above was taken <b>with the mother&#8217;s cell phone camera</b>. That&#8217;s another source of light that could be causing the reflection, the light from the room in which the videotape of the was viewed and photographed.</p>
<p>Have you ever tried to take a picture of a TV or of an aquatic animal in an aquarium? This glare is exactly what you&#8217;d expect.</p>
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		<title>By: Harknights</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/24/did-an-angel-save-her-daughters-life/#comment-255175</link>
		<dc:creator>Harknights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like this is a joke America is pulling on me. What the F?!? You can see the reflection in the floor that it&#039;s another light source. Either a window or a set of lights.

Why is it so hard to marvel in what the human body can do? 

Sure it might be from a movie but &quot;Life finds a way&quot; is such an important idea. I wish people would talk on the Today show for 6 minutes about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like this is a joke America is pulling on me. What the F?!? You can see the reflection in the floor that it&#8217;s another light source. Either a window or a set of lights.</p>
<p>Why is it so hard to marvel in what the human body can do? </p>
<p>Sure it might be from a movie but &#8220;Life finds a way&#8221; is such an important idea. I wish people would talk on the Today show for 6 minutes about that.</p>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it is past time to start distributing &quot;Dumber than a Stump&quot; Awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is past time to start distributing &#8220;Dumber than a Stump&#8221; Awards.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos to Art&#039;s comment above, this part of the story particularly stands out:&lt;blockquote&gt;Chelsea had been born five weeks prematurely with developmental disabilities and had battled serious health problems all her life. She is particularly susceptible to the types of pneumonia infections that had taken her to death’s door.&lt;/blockquote&gt;So, these people believe that God let her (or, caused her) for his Great Unfathomable Purposes be born prematurely, have developmental disabilities, &amp; battle health problems all of her 14 yrs so far.  But then it&#039;s a &quot;miracle&quot; when she pulls through a latest &amp; worst-so-far of her recurrent bouts with pneumonia.  (While on oxygen, a ventilator, and presumably high-potency antibiotics - to combat those &lt;em&gt;evolving&lt;/em&gt; bacterial pathogens.)

Then, from the commentary, there&#039;s this unbelievable gem:&lt;blockquote&gt;Cook was joined by Rabbi Irwin Kula, who looked at angels as more of a metaphor for the unexplained wonders that life brings. “Albert Einstein said there are two ways to look at the world: as if everything is a miracle or nothing is a miracle,” he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you just hear Einstein turn in his grave?  This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; what he meant by &quot;miracle&quot; - he was talking about the entire frigging universe &amp; the beauty of its physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos to Art&#8217;s comment above, this part of the story particularly stands out:<br />
<blockquote>Chelsea had been born five weeks prematurely with developmental disabilities and had battled serious health problems all her life. She is particularly susceptible to the types of pneumonia infections that had taken her to death’s door.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, these people believe that God let her (or, caused her) for his Great Unfathomable Purposes be born prematurely, have developmental disabilities, &amp; battle health problems all of her 14 yrs so far.  But then it&#8217;s a &#8220;miracle&#8221; when she pulls through a latest &amp; worst-so-far of her recurrent bouts with pneumonia.  (While on oxygen, a ventilator, and presumably high-potency antibiotics &#8211; to combat those <em>evolving</em> bacterial pathogens.)</p>
<p>Then, from the commentary, there&#8217;s this unbelievable gem:<br />
<blockquote>Cook was joined by Rabbi Irwin Kula, who looked at angels as more of a metaphor for the unexplained wonders that life brings. “Albert Einstein said there are two ways to look at the world: as if everything is a miracle or nothing is a miracle,” he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you just hear Einstein turn in his grave?  This is <em>not</em> what he meant by &#8220;miracle&#8221; &#8211; he was talking about the entire frigging universe &amp; the beauty of its physics.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do people do with their eyes all day that they think sunbeams and reflections require extra-ordinary explanations? Do they spend their whole lives in windowless cubicles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do people do with their eyes all day that they think sunbeams and reflections require extra-ordinary explanations? Do they spend their whole lives in windowless cubicles?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how the rest of the story might go if it had been fully reported:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The hospital security personnel continued to watch the image on the security monitor but no one went to the camera&#039;s location to investigate it. Over the course of two hours the angel seemed to miraculously slide down the wall onto the floor, and then to slide across the floor in a miraculously un-angel like way, distorting into what looked kinda like two hot dogs and a lopsided square thing. Then the weather got cloudy outside, and miraculously, just at that moment, the hot-dog-lopsided-square-thing/angel disappeared.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how the rest of the story might go if it had been fully reported:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The hospital security personnel continued to watch the image on the security monitor but no one went to the camera&#8217;s location to investigate it. Over the course of two hours the angel seemed to miraculously slide down the wall onto the floor, and then to slide across the floor in a miraculously un-angel like way, distorting into what looked kinda like two hot dogs and a lopsided square thing. Then the weather got cloudy outside, and miraculously, just at that moment, the hot-dog-lopsided-square-thing/angel disappeared.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time I hear someone talk about miracles I always ask them about the &quot;anti-miracles&quot; that, for everyone miraculously saved from certain death by some strange occurrence, there are 1000-fold more incidents where the victim dies or suffers needlessly.  

It&#039;s real convenient for them to just forget all the circumstances where a God could intervene and prevent death and destruction and just focus on the relatively few random times when someone&#039;s luck saved them.

Were the people that didn&#039;t receive the miracle not pious or religious enough or were they just victims of some cosmic roulette wheel while the saved one had the ball fall in their slot?

Yeah, they fall back on the mantra that we&#039;re just too stupid to understand the ways of God.  I&#039;m going to try that the next time I get caught for speeding.  &quot;Officer, you&#039;re just not worthy of understanding why I had to speed.  Bless you anyway.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I hear someone talk about miracles I always ask them about the &#8220;anti-miracles&#8221; that, for everyone miraculously saved from certain death by some strange occurrence, there are 1000-fold more incidents where the victim dies or suffers needlessly.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s real convenient for them to just forget all the circumstances where a God could intervene and prevent death and destruction and just focus on the relatively few random times when someone&#8217;s luck saved them.</p>
<p>Were the people that didn&#8217;t receive the miracle not pious or religious enough or were they just victims of some cosmic roulette wheel while the saved one had the ball fall in their slot?</p>
<p>Yeah, they fall back on the mantra that we&#8217;re just too stupid to understand the ways of God.  I&#8217;m going to try that the next time I get caught for speeding.  &#8220;Officer, you&#8217;re just not worthy of understanding why I had to speed.  Bless you anyway.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, what is it with the big belief in Miracles at this time of the year? On Jesus&#039; birthday no less! Don&#039;t you think, if they really existed, God and his boy would have better things to do right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, what is it with the big belief in Miracles at this time of the year? On Jesus&#8217; birthday no less! Don&#8217;t you think, if they really existed, God and his boy would have better things to do right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Lance Armstrong is an atheist.  He said &quot;If there was a god, I&#039;d still have both nuts&quot;.  In regards to his cancer recovery, he said believes in doctors and scientists rather than god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Lance Armstrong is an atheist.  He said &#8220;If there was a god, I&#8217;d still have both nuts&#8221;.  In regards to his cancer recovery, he said believes in doctors and scientists rather than god.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Chimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Chimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>postsimian said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;*forehead smack*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*facepalm*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postsimian said:</p>
<blockquote><p>*forehead smack*</p></blockquote>
<p>*facepalm*</p>
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