Comments on: Church to Hungry Homeless: Pray First, Eat Later http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/ by Hemant Mehta Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Kylie http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-440947 Kylie Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:48:27 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-440947 Kat says: "According to scripture, Jesus didn’t make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves." Obviously haven't read the book then Kat? They'd been there all day and the disciples came up to Jesus and said, "The people have been here all day without food. They won't even have enough energy to walk home now." That's when Jesus asked who had food, and did the loaves and fishes magic. Kat says: “According to scripture, Jesus didn’t make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves.” Obviously haven’t read the book then Kat? They’d been there all day and the disciples came up to Jesus and said, “The people have been here all day without food. They won’t even have enough energy to walk home now.” That’s when Jesus asked who had food, and did the loaves and fishes magic.

]]> By: Bill http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-440843 Bill Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:15:51 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-440843 See - the fucking "Christians" can't even get along with _each_other_! Why do they expect those of us who don't share their little fantasy to believe anything they say? Here's a story for you: I was eating at a Village Inn restaurant one morning a few years ago, and happened to notice a couple of guys in suits sitting in a booth nearby, with a whole bunch of notebooks and crap spread out on the table between them. Being the nosy sort, I listened in on their conversation. The one (the "trainer" apparently) kept explaining to the "trainee" various ways in which you could make people like you. "Be their friend. Find them when they're desperate and offer to help them. Once you've pulled them out of the gutter and fed them and cleaned them up, they'll believe anything you tell them. They'll do anything you ask them to. That's when you ask them to join you in worshiping at our church." Talk about a "hidden agenda". This was a "youth group leader" talking to a college student who was apparently lured into their group. Douche bags. I hope they all choke on an altar boy's underwear and die. See – the fucking “Christians” can’t even get along with _each_other_! Why do they expect those of us who don’t share their little fantasy to believe anything they say?

Here’s a story for you:

I was eating at a Village Inn restaurant one morning a few years ago, and happened to notice a couple of guys in suits sitting in a booth nearby, with a whole bunch of notebooks and crap spread out on the table between them. Being the nosy sort, I listened in on their conversation. The one (the “trainer” apparently) kept explaining to the “trainee” various ways in which you could make people like you. “Be their friend. Find them when they’re desperate and offer to help them. Once you’ve pulled them out of the gutter and fed them and cleaned them up, they’ll believe anything you tell them. They’ll do anything you ask them to. That’s when you ask them to join you in worshiping at our church.”

Talk about a “hidden agenda”. This was a “youth group leader” talking to a college student who was apparently lured into their group. Douche bags. I hope they all choke on an altar boy’s underwear and die.

]]> By: Mark http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-440349 Mark Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:31:09 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-440349 There ain't no such thing as a christian. There ain’t no such thing as a christian.

]]> By: Debra http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-257792 Debra Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:25:59 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-257792 Robin requested use of the kitchen and fellowship hall facilities for two events: her annual memorial service and the Christmas party. The church agreed to this. A time was set, she ordered the food with the caterer (who donated everything for 125 people), took care of all the logistics with food and thousands of dollars in gifts, her staff shoveled the sidewalks (after that icy snowstorm), cleaned and set up the room, and then was handed an "itinerary" at the last minute as to how the program was going to be run, even though everything had been planned. The minister wanted to go first, so much so that he made the servers drop their utensils. Plates of food were discarded as some people had already been served. Robin is not combative; she does stick up for those utilizing tax-paid programs, so that taxpayers get some bang for their bucks, and requests that her clients be treated with respect and not be used as pawns by the many poverty-industries that the taxpayers pay for. Those who ever took the time to stop by FAITH Foundation supported her, in spirit and financially. Those that didn't, speculate on what she does and they are her biggest critics. There is more to this story, which is likely connected to her eviction from the State Street office, that the city supported for years. Robin requested use of the kitchen and fellowship hall facilities for two events: her annual memorial service and the Christmas party. The church agreed to this. A time was set, she ordered the food with the caterer (who donated everything for 125 people), took care of all the logistics with food and thousands of dollars in gifts, her staff shoveled the sidewalks (after that icy snowstorm), cleaned and set up the room, and then was handed an “itinerary” at the last minute as to how the program was going to be run, even though everything had been planned.

The minister wanted to go first, so much so that he made the servers drop their utensils. Plates of food were discarded as some people had already been served.

Robin is not combative; she does stick up for those utilizing tax-paid programs, so that taxpayers get some bang for their bucks, and requests that her clients be treated with respect and not be used as pawns by the many poverty-industries that the taxpayers pay for.

Those who ever took the time to stop by FAITH Foundation supported her, in spirit and financially. Those that didn’t, speculate on what she does and they are her biggest critics.

There is more to this story, which is likely connected to her eviction from the State Street office, that the city supported for years.

]]> By: Kat http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256449 Kat Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:20:28 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256449 Robin Reilly may be a bit combative, her group gets tossed out of buildings all of the time, but what the so-called man of god did, was just sick and sad. This, sadly, happens at most churches that claim to want to help the homeless and needy. They get them in on the promise of a hot meal and a warm bed, and then they force them to listen to a sermon before they can eat, and many of them are truly starving. That meal may be their only decent meal in weeks, they are counting on it for their very survival, yet they have to sit and watch it get cold so that the preacher man can do what he thinks Jesus would have him him do. According to scripture, Jesus didn't make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves. It's just sick. Good luck to that church getting donations in the upcoming year. Robin Reilly may be a bit combative, her group gets tossed out of buildings all of the time, but what the so-called man of god did, was just sick and sad.

This, sadly, happens at most churches that claim to want to help the homeless and needy.
They get them in on the promise of a hot meal and a warm bed, and then they force them to listen to a sermon before they can eat, and many of them are truly starving. That meal may be their only decent meal in weeks, they are counting on it for their very survival, yet they have to sit and watch it get cold so that the preacher man can do what he thinks Jesus would have him him do.

According to scripture, Jesus didn’t make people listen to him talk about his father before he gave them fishes and loaves.

It’s just sick. Good luck to that church getting donations in the upcoming year.

]]> By: writerdd http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256431 writerdd Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:40:20 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256431 That's why I am not fond of religious charities. There's always an ulterior motive. That’s why I am not fond of religious charities. There’s always an ulterior motive.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256427 Aaron Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:20:19 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256427 I'd say they were acting very Christian. After all, the highest priority for Christians is worshipping Jesus. Spiritual needs are more important than physical needs. So, they were actually following their doctrines to the T when they denied food until after prayer. I’d say they were acting very Christian. After all, the highest priority for Christians is worshipping Jesus. Spiritual needs are more important than physical needs. So, they were actually following their doctrines to the T when they denied food until after prayer.

]]> By: Lily http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256410 Lily Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:45:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256410 Using the promise of food to get hungry people to go to church and pray is sadly not at all uncommon. It seems that many missionary organizations base their work on it. Using the promise of food to get hungry people to go to church and pray is sadly not at all uncommon. It seems that many missionary organizations base their work on it.

]]> By: benjdm http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256395 benjdm Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:56:39 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256395 Stop using "Christian" as a synonym for good behavior. It's bullshit, on par with using "Godless" to describe bad behavior. Stop using “Christian” as a synonym for good behavior. It’s bullshit, on par with using “Godless” to describe bad behavior.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2008/12/31/church-to-hungry-homeless-pray-first-eat-later/#comment-256364 Stephen Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:29:43 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=7320#comment-256364 Well, as Christ said -- the poor will always be around, so church -- the "body of Christ" -- comes first. (Matthew 26:11) Well, as Christ said — the poor will always be around, so church — the “body of Christ” — comes first. (Matthew 26:11)

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