Was Jesus Real? Asks Jesus Project Scholars

(This is a guest post by Trina Hoaks. Trina is the Atheist Examiner at Examiner.com.)

A new project is under way to determine if Jesus actually existed. Aptly enough, it is called the “Jesus Project.” The project, which is an initiative of the Center for Inquiry, is comprised of 20 scholars from different areas of expertise who consider the existence of Jesus to be a “testable hypothesis.”

The group, which consists of historians, biblical scholars, theologians, archeologists, and the like, will make their way through countless documents to determine what is admissible to the question at hand — a daunting task to be sure.

I have to wonder if the five years that have set aside for the project will be enough.

I also wonder, though, if this quest is worth the time, effort, and money. I for one have an appreciation of knowledge for knowledge’s sake and will be interested to hear (or read) the conclusions of those involved. I’ll admit it: I am intrigued. However, I have no doubt that no matter what they conclude, there will be people who will not be satisfied with the answers, and the debate will rage on.

Do you think this project will produce any worthwhile results?

Will they be taken seriously?

Religion and Politics in 2008

How bad was the intersection of religion and politics in 2008?

The Secular Coalition for America put together a video reminding us of how marginalized the atheist viewpoint was this year.

They also include advice at the end on how we can (slowly but surely) fix this problem.

Check it out:

That’s hardly everything.

They didn’t even include the clip of the three Republican candidates raising their hands against Evolution.

But if the video is just a sampling, it shows how far non-religious have to go before we have a seat at America’s political roundtable .

Jesus Speaks!

My friend Ashley interviewed Jesus at the Atheist Alliance International convention a few months ago and finally posted the video of it.

In particular, I love his responses to what the H. stands for in Jesus H. Christ… and what he thinks about Sarah Palin :)

Comedy Jesus is played by Troy Conrad.

(via healthyaddict)

Atheists Sue Over the Inauguration

***Update***: The lawsuit in question has undergone some revisions (including new plaintiffs). A few changes have been made since my original posting.

You can read further commentary on this lawsuit at Daily Kos here and here.

Atheist Michael Newdow (of “Under God” fame) and several other atheists are suing government officials over the injection of religion into the presidential Inauguration.

The lawsuit is being filed today in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

You can see the Original Complaint (PDF) at Newdow’s website (click on “Challenge to Inaugural Prayer”).

Who is suing? Anyone and everyone, it seems.

Specifically:

MICHAEL NEWDOW;
ELLERY SCHEMPP;
MEL LIPMAN;
DAN BARKER AND
ANNIE-LAURIE GAYLOR;
ROBERT SHERMAN;
MARGARET DOWNEY;
AUGUST BERKSHIRE;
MARIE CASTLE;
STUART BECHMAN;
HERB SILVERMAN;
JASON TORPY;
HARRY GREENBERGER;
KIRK HORNBECK;
JIM CORBETT;
CATHARINE LAMM;
RICHARD WINGROVE;
CHRISTOPHER ARNTZEN;
JOHN STOLTENBERG;
KATHERINE LACLAIR;
LOUIS ALTMAN;
PAUL CASE;
JERRY SCHIFFELBEIN;
ANNE, PHILIP AND JAY RICHARDSON;
DAN DUGAN;
ANNA MAE ANDREWS;
ELIZA SUTTON;
RICHARD RESSMAN;
“UNNAMED CHILDREN;”
THE AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION
THE FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION
MILITARY ASSOCIATION
OF ATHEISTS & FREETHINKERS
MINNESOTA ATHEISTS
ATHEISTS FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
ATHEIST ALLIANCE INTERNATIONAL
ATHEISTS UNITED
NEW ORLEANS SECULAR HUMANIST ASSN
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
SECULAR STUDENT UNION
SEATTLE ATHEISTS
ATHEISTS OF FLORIDA

Why “unnamed children”? Because, according to Newdow, the public prayers amount to the “coercive imposition of religious dogma specifically denounced by the Supreme Court” in so many other similar court cases.

Who is being sued?

HON. JOHN ROBERTS, JR., CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE U.S. SUPREME COURT;
PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURAL COMMITTEE (“PIC”);
EMMETT BELIVEAU, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PIC;
JOINT CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE ON INAUGURAL CEREMONIES (“JCCIC”);
SENATOR DIANNE FEINSTEIN, CHAIRPERSON, JCCIC;
ARMED FORCES INAUGURAL COMMITTEE (“AFIC”);
MAJOR GENERAL RICHARD J. ROWE JR., CHAIRPERSON, AFIC;
REV. RICK WARREN;
REV. JOE LOWERY;

What do the plaintiffs want?

They want to stop “so help me God” from being said during this inauguration and all future ones. Same with the prayers — both the invocation and benediction.

They don’t want extra money, but they do want to “recover costs, expert witness fees, attorney fees,” etc.

I do find it humorous that this section of the lawsuit is called “PRAYER FOR RELIEF.”

Why all the suing?

A couple key reasons:

  • The addition of “so help me God” to the presidential oath of office (said by Chief Justice John Roberts) violates the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment.
  • The government-sponsored use of any clergy at all during the inauguration violates the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment

To be clear, this is not an attack on Rick Warren for his bigoted views. That’s a separate issue.

It’s a lawsuit against using religion at all in a presidential inauguration.

Should Newdow win? Yes. He’s correct on both these counts. There’s no reason Barack Obama should be swearing an oath to God when he takes office. (If he chooses to do so personally, that’s his decision, but it shouldn’t be part of the official ceremony.) There’s also no reason we should have prayers — in this case, Christian ones — at the inauguration.

Will Newdow win? Not likely. He’s tried this before and failed.

In 2005, Newdow sued for the same reasons and the courts rejected his suit. U.S. District Judge John Bates, who oversaw that case, wrote this (PDF):

… the Court denies Newdow’s motion for a preliminary injunction that would enjoin the President and others from permitting clergy-led prayer at the 2005 Inauguration. Given the significant doubt that his action can proceed in the face of substantial questions relating to issue preclusion and standing, and the absence of a clearly established violation of the Establishment Clause, the Court concludes that Newdow has not satisfied the threshold requirement for extraordinary preliminary relief — a convincing showing of a substantial likelihood of success on the merits. Moreover, the balance of harms here, and particularly the public interest, does not weigh strongly in favor of the injunctive relief Newdow requests, which would require the unprecedented step of an injunction against the President.

Newdow has thus not met his burden of establishing that the extraordinary remedy of preliminary injunctive relief is warranted under the present circumstances. The motion for a preliminary injunction is therefore denied…

Is there anything different now from four years ago? Not that I can see.

It’s perhaps a symbolic lawsuit more than anything else. Newdow would disagree with that, though. He doesn’t file any lawsuit unless he thinks he has a chance at winning.

He does raise a few important points in the lawsuit that should be noted.

One is that, much like the injection of God on our money and into the Pledge of Allegiance in the 1950s, we didn’t always have prayers in the Inauguration ceremony.

That only began in 1937 (PDF) with Franklin Roosevelt.

Another is that the phrase “so help me God” isn’t a historic precedent, either. Newdow writes that the first verifiable use of that phrase took place in “1881, ninety-two years after George Washington’s initial ceremony” — when “Chester A. Arthur took the oath upon hearing of President James Garfield’s death.”

After that, it was used sporadically until 1933 (again, with Roosevelt). Newdow adds that the phrase was not used in 1929 at Herbert Hoover’s inauguration.

There’s a kick in the head for anyone who believes we were founded as a Christian nation.

Just as with the Pledge Case, Newdow has the facts on his side. But I’m not optimistic about the lawsuit achieving any results.

Will it hurt us in the long run, though? I doubt it.

There is an upside to all this: the lawsuit can help raise consciousness about these issues. Presidential inaugurations used to be solely about our country — not about praying to a specific God.

It would be nice to see a president and government respecting that secular tradition.

Update: There are several interesting posts on the inclusion of the phrase “So Help Me God” at American Creation.

(Thanks to Eliza for the link!)

One Story Through Several Lenses

There’s a story about Humanists seen in several newspapers today — I saw it in the Chicago Tribune — that was first published a week ago.

It’s by reporter Robin Shulman and it’s about how more atheist communities are now forming.

Reporters usually don’t write their own headlines, though, and this can lead to problems.

Dale McGowan, who is quoted in the article, has found a variety of ways newspapers are bending the exact same story to suit their own needs.

… Sometimes the headline is unchanged… but more often, the copy editor or columnist in question has his/her way with the meme, often revealing his/her own biases or intentionally stirring the pot.

Some headlines use the word “communion” or “congregation” — implying that atheists are somehow trying to replicate church.

My favorite headline comes from Covenant News. Take a guess at their point of view.

Dale has the full roundup at his site.

A New Podcast from Young Australian Skeptics

If you get a chance, check out the new podcast from the Young Australian Skeptics.

It’s available on iTunes.

(Thanks to Jason for the link!)

Proof That Arby’s is an Atheist-Owned Chain

Perhaps you’ve seen ads for Arby’s restaurants lately, like the really disturbing one where the wife fulfills her husband’s bedroom fantasy by dressing up like an Arby’s server…

Anyway, the slogan in this ad and others is “I’m thinking Arby’s”:

thinking

Reader Lisa discovered that Arby’s really takes that slogan seriously.

She drove past a local one and saw this:

athiestarbys

There’s only one letter being illuminated in the logo.

It’s the Scarlet A!

scarletletter

This can only mean one thing.

Arby’s must be an atheist-owned chain.

(Kind of like how Chick-fil-A is a Christian-owned one.)

As Lisa puts it, this puts a whole new spin on that “I’m Thinking” campaign: They really are!

Does Africa Need God?

Writer Matthew Parris has been to Africa many times. There’s also no doubt he’s an atheist.

He’s come to an interesting conclusion:

Now a confirmed atheist, I’ve become convinced of the enormous contribution that Christian evangelism makes in Africa: sharply distinct from the work of secular NGOs, government projects and international aid efforts. These alone will not do. Education and training alone will not do. In Africa Christianity changes people’s hearts. It brings a spiritual transformation. The rebirth is real. The change is good.

I have to agree with him on some level. At the various churches I’ve been over the past couple years, most of them were involved in some sort of missionary work — work that goes unmatched by the secular charities that are out there.

In the plenty of books I’ve read written by Christians, the authors have often gone on these trips themselves. They write about the difference they made in this village and that one. In one I just finished, the author worked side-by-side with Mother Teresa. I’ve seen my own high school students come back from trips transformed themselves after going to help people in impoverished places — they’re not just building churches; they’re saving lives.

I haven’t heard about or read books by atheists (or any non-Christians, for that matter) doing anything similar and on that scale.

Christians definitely have the money and the numbers to make a difference in places so many others have forgotten about.

The downside, of course, is the whole preaching superstition thing — not just religion, but also the dangerous belief that condom are evil:

It’s a pity, I would say, that salvation is part of the package, but Christians black and white, working in Africa, do heal the sick, do teach people to read and write; and only the severest kind of secularist could see a mission hospital or school and say the world would be better without it. I would allow that if faith was needed to motivate missionaries to help, then, fine: but what counted was the help, not the faith.

The help only goes so far, though. The faith takes them the rest of the way.

Parris reports that in his encounters with “missionized” Africans, the new Christians were different people:

… their faith appeared to have liberated and relaxed them. There was a liveliness, a curiosity, an engagement with the world — a directness in their dealings with others — that seemed to be missing in traditional African life. They stood tall.

None of this suggests the beliefs of Christians are true. Rather, it reinforces the idea that the Christian story is a powerful one.

I also don’t think that change has to come from Christianity — a powerful secular force could achieve something similar. But religious mythology gives the people hope for a better life even if there’s no reason to think it’s valid. That is one powerful placebo to argue against.

The article leads me to ask a few questions:

  • Is hope the thing that these missionized Africans need most? Or could their spirits be transformed by something else? Kindness from strangers? Basic food/water/medicine/education?
  • Are the teaching of Christianity and the sex miseducation the only reasons you (atheists) may not support these missionaries? Why else don’t you?
  • Is the Christian proselytization helping Africa or hurting it?
  • If you agree that Parris is correct in saying these mission trips are undeniably good, would you be willing to be a part of a trip as an atheist? Have you done this already?
  • Do you support or condemn Parris for writing the column?


What Would You Ask An Atheist in a Foxhole?

We all know there are indeed atheists in foxholes — atheists in all branches of the armed services.

Many of them are open about it. As a result, they face a lot of hardships.

One of these foxhole atheists has graciously offered to answer your questions.

While he prefers to remain anonymous, I can tell you he’s a civilian contractor who provides communications services to the U.S. Army. He also fixes communications equipment.

He is currently in Iraq, though he may soon be shipped to Afghanistan.

So knowing all that…

What would you like to ask a foxhole atheist?

I’ll compile the best questions asked within the next couple days and pass them along to him.

***Update***: Another currently embedded atheist troop has also agreed to answer questions.

Jesus Answers Only Half the Prayers…

Courtesy of The Onion:

He works in magical ways, that one…