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	<title>Comments on: Lee Strobel Answers Your Questions, Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-824958</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the &quot;Strong Free Will&quot; theorem says is that if free will allows humans to &quot;freely&quot; ignore causality, electrons must also ignore causality.  This... actually makes perfect sense.

But because it uses the sense of free will as &quot;ignoring causality,&quot; it doesn&#039;t interfere with any sense of free will in accordance with causality.  As Thomas Aquinas said: &quot;Free-will is the cause of its own movement, because by his free-will man moves himself to act. But it [is] not of necessity [..] that what is free should be the first cause of itself, [..] for one thing to be cause of another [it need not] be the first cause.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the &#8220;Strong Free Will&#8221; theorem says is that if free will allows humans to &#8220;freely&#8221; ignore causality, electrons must also ignore causality.  This&#8230; actually makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>But because it uses the sense of free will as &#8220;ignoring causality,&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t interfere with any sense of free will in accordance with causality.  As Thomas Aquinas said: &#8220;Free-will is the cause of its own movement, because by his free-will man moves himself to act. But it [is] not of necessity [..] that what is free should be the first cause of itself, [..] for one thing to be cause of another [it need not] be the first cause.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James Sweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be commenting on a two-year-old post... but I&#039;m frankly shocked.  Really.  Like, intensely shocked.  These are really just such truly &lt;i&gt;awful&lt;/i&gt; arguments.  A couple of them even have patently false premises.  The rest of them are the same tired old BS that&#039;s been refuted countless times before.

This is really it?? The best they can muster?  Seriously, I&#039;m floored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be commenting on a two-year-old post&#8230; but I&#8217;m frankly shocked.  Really.  Like, intensely shocked.  These are really just such truly <i>awful</i> arguments.  A couple of them even have patently false premises.  The rest of them are the same tired old BS that&#8217;s been refuted countless times before.</p>
<p>This is really it?? The best they can muster?  Seriously, I&#8217;m floored.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosita</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-590301</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Explain how something can come from nothing&quot;.

The question nobody asked:

Is [your version of god/s] &quot;something&quot; or &quot;nothing&quot;?  

If it is &quot;something&quot; then explain why it is better able to come from &quot;nothing&quot; than anything else, or else why it has more ability to be &quot;eternal&quot;.

If it is &quot;nothing&quot; then explain how it could create &quot;something&quot;. 

In the final analysis of this silly example of the First Cause cosmological argument, the questioner&#039;s personal imagination of a divinity is inserted into the end statement as if it were already proven.  (Therefore there is a First Cause which does not need to come from either something or nothing and which we shall call &quot;god&quot;.)  

It is completely irrational to use a highly ambiguous term like &quot;god&quot; to identify what could just as easily be a non-sentient eternally existing &quot;state&quot;, which we might call &quot;energy&quot;. That term is considerably less ambiguous, but a lot less convenient for a theist desperate to make a case for their favorite addicting delusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Explain how something can come from nothing&#8221;.</p>
<p>The question nobody asked:</p>
<p>Is [your version of god/s] &#8220;something&#8221; or &#8220;nothing&#8221;?  </p>
<p>If it is &#8220;something&#8221; then explain why it is better able to come from &#8220;nothing&#8221; than anything else, or else why it has more ability to be &#8220;eternal&#8221;.</p>
<p>If it is &#8220;nothing&#8221; then explain how it could create &#8220;something&#8221;. </p>
<p>In the final analysis of this silly example of the First Cause cosmological argument, the questioner&#8217;s personal imagination of a divinity is inserted into the end statement as if it were already proven.  (Therefore there is a First Cause which does not need to come from either something or nothing and which we shall call &#8220;god&#8221;.)  </p>
<p>It is completely irrational to use a highly ambiguous term like &#8220;god&#8221; to identify what could just as easily be a non-sentient eternally existing &#8220;state&#8221;, which we might call &#8220;energy&#8221;. That term is considerably less ambiguous, but a lot less convenient for a theist desperate to make a case for their favorite addicting delusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Daylight Atheism &#62; Answering Lee Strobel&#8217;s Questions for Atheists</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-416720</link>
		<dc:creator>Daylight Atheism &#62; Answering Lee Strobel&#8217;s Questions for Atheists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Friendly Atheist has posted the third part of a dialogue with Christian apologist Lee Strobel. In it, Strobel poses questions that he thinks would be the most effective at planting seeds of faith in an atheist&#8217;s mind. In this post, I&#8217;ll answer those questions. I&#8217;ve written on some of these issues at greater length in the past, and I&#8217;ll also provide links to those essays where appropriate. Historian Gary Habermas: &#8220;Utilizing each of the historical facts conceded by virtually all contemporary scholars, please produce a comprehensive natural explanation of Jesus&#8217; resurrection that makes better sense than the event itself.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Friendly Atheist has posted the third part of a dialogue with Christian apologist Lee Strobel. In it, Strobel poses questions that he thinks would be the most effective at planting seeds of faith in an atheist&#8217;s mind. In this post, I&#8217;ll answer those questions. I&#8217;ve written on some of these issues at greater length in the past, and I&#8217;ll also provide links to those essays where appropriate. Historian Gary Habermas: &#8220;Utilizing each of the historical facts conceded by virtually all contemporary scholars, please produce a comprehensive natural explanation of Jesus&#8217; resurrection that makes better sense than the event itself.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Siamang</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-377043</link>
		<dc:creator>Siamang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Colin.

Though I think the post should have been entitled &quot;Lee Strobel Evades Your Questions.&quot;

He didn&#039;t answer mine, which was a direct indictment of his entire self-positioning as an &quot;investigating journalist&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Colin.</p>
<p>Though I think the post should have been entitled &#8220;Lee Strobel Evades Your Questions.&#8221;</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t answer mine, which was a direct indictment of his entire self-positioning as an &#8220;investigating journalist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the party, but couldn&#039;t help but read through your entire series with Lee Strobel.  I was somewhat familiar with him from my days of listening to Christian radio, and I think its fantastic you got him to come on as a &quot;guest blogger&quot;.  Though the commenters thoroughly disintegrated his arguments, the vast majority maintained the &quot;friendly&quot; tone that sets this blog apart.

Great work here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to the party, but couldn&#8217;t help but read through your entire series with Lee Strobel.  I was somewhat familiar with him from my days of listening to Christian radio, and I think its fantastic you got him to come on as a &#8220;guest blogger&#8221;.  Though the commenters thoroughly disintegrated his arguments, the vast majority maintained the &#8220;friendly&#8221; tone that sets this blog apart.</p>
<p>Great work here!</p>
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		<title>By: St. Eutychus &#187; Let there be light</title>
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		<dc:creator>St. Eutychus &#187; Let there be light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can find them here, here, here, and here. It&#8217;s a great example of respectful dialogue between two opposing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NYCatheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-302153</link>
		<dc:creator>NYCatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheists don&#039;t have a unified doctrine of belief regarding the origin of the universe. A quantum fluctuation is one idea explaining the Big Bang, but nobody knows for sure. Personally I like the colliding branes theory because it sounds cool. ;-)

I don&#039;t think any atheist would say they &quot;believe&quot; that a random fluctuation caused the Big Bang. I would rather say &quot;entertain the notion&quot;. I don&#039;t really find it very satisfying because still my brain yearns for a cause of that fluctuation no matter what the physicists claim about uncaused quantum events. (Or the origin of the flapping branes.) Basically the only two options I can imagine is either 1. Something always existed, or 2. Something came from nothing, but maybe that&#039;s because I am locked into a temporal reality. I find both options to be absurd.

Short Answer: I don&#039;t know.

PS: Although I agree with you to some extent that an atheist who expressed a belief in a universe birthing quantum fluctuation isn&#039;t being 100% rational, I would have to say he or she is being more rational than someone who believes in some kind of &quot;creator&quot; assuming you are referring to a being with personality. I justify this claim with Occam&#039;s Razor. &quot;Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity.&quot; Besides we do have evidence for quantum fluctuations already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheists don&#8217;t have a unified doctrine of belief regarding the origin of the universe. A quantum fluctuation is one idea explaining the Big Bang, but nobody knows for sure. Personally I like the colliding branes theory because it sounds cool. <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any atheist would say they &#8220;believe&#8221; that a random fluctuation caused the Big Bang. I would rather say &#8220;entertain the notion&#8221;. I don&#8217;t really find it very satisfying because still my brain yearns for a cause of that fluctuation no matter what the physicists claim about uncaused quantum events. (Or the origin of the flapping branes.) Basically the only two options I can imagine is either 1. Something always existed, or 2. Something came from nothing, but maybe that&#8217;s because I am locked into a temporal reality. I find both options to be absurd.</p>
<p>Short Answer: I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>PS: Although I agree with you to some extent that an atheist who expressed a belief in a universe birthing quantum fluctuation isn&#8217;t being 100% rational, I would have to say he or she is being more rational than someone who believes in some kind of &#8220;creator&#8221; assuming you are referring to a being with personality. I justify this claim with Occam&#8217;s Razor. &#8220;Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity.&#8221; Besides we do have evidence for quantum fluctuations already.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/#comment-302103</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do atheists believe the universe is the result of quantum fluctuations (chance)?   If so, does that make chance the creator?   And why would this belief be any more rationinal than a belief that the universe was created for a reason?
 
 
Thanks for your time,
 
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do atheists believe the universe is the result of quantum fluctuations (chance)?   If so, does that make chance the creator?   And why would this belief be any more rationinal than a belief that the universe was created for a reason?</p>
<p>Thanks for your time,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m at the 112th Carnival of the Godless</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m at the 112th Carnival of the Godless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for inclusion. Please check out my post and while your at it have a look at what others have said in reply to Lee Strobel over at the carnival. And for all you new people, please comment and let me know what you [...]</description>
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