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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/02/07/there-was-a-knock-on-my-door/#comment-824149</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not your real intent. I remember. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not your real intent. I remember.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonyMouse</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/02/07/there-was-a-knock-on-my-door/#comment-297958</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No door-knockers, but I ran into someone on YouTube the other day (over Easter weekend, in fact).

We started out with a comment-debate on a video - something to do with God lying to Adam about the fruit - and after awhile she decided I needed some old-fashioned convertin&#039; and sent me a PM detailing her horrible childhood, sinful parents, conversion, and now all-better life.  I wrote back to her and explained my warm, fuzzy, Christian childhood and my subsequent deconversion.

We chatted back and forth for awhile after that.  Discussed a lot of points in the Bible (like &quot;If Adam was immortal, why would God be worried about him eating from the Tree of Immortality?&quot;), chatted on a couple of other subjects, and overall had a pleasant and polite time.  I even got her to cede that if God is omnipotent, he shouldn&#039;t be too busy to reconvert me if he wanted.

When I had to break it off (after two days, I was getting tired, and she kept calling me &quot;hon&quot; and sending me Christian videos she&#039;d made), she told me she loved me (a nice sentiment, I thought) and departed gracefully.  The one thing we agreed on: if God wants me back, he&#039;ll do something about it, so there&#039;s no point in being forceful.

Despite her irritating idiosyncrasies, she really was one of the nicest net-Christians I have ever encountered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No door-knockers, but I ran into someone on YouTube the other day (over Easter weekend, in fact).</p>
<p>We started out with a comment-debate on a video &#8211; something to do with God lying to Adam about the fruit &#8211; and after awhile she decided I needed some old-fashioned convertin&#8217; and sent me a PM detailing her horrible childhood, sinful parents, conversion, and now all-better life.  I wrote back to her and explained my warm, fuzzy, Christian childhood and my subsequent deconversion.</p>
<p>We chatted back and forth for awhile after that.  Discussed a lot of points in the Bible (like &#8220;If Adam was immortal, why would God be worried about him eating from the Tree of Immortality?&#8221;), chatted on a couple of other subjects, and overall had a pleasant and polite time.  I even got her to cede that if God is omnipotent, he shouldn&#8217;t be too busy to reconvert me if he wanted.</p>
<p>When I had to break it off (after two days, I was getting tired, and she kept calling me &#8220;hon&#8221; and sending me Christian videos she&#8217;d made), she told me she loved me (a nice sentiment, I thought) and departed gracefully.  The one thing we agreed on: if God wants me back, he&#8217;ll do something about it, so there&#8217;s no point in being forceful.</p>
<p>Despite her irritating idiosyncrasies, she really was one of the nicest net-Christians I have ever encountered.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaddeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luna said: &quot;They dont come over to my place anymore.. they know better.&quot;

Don&#039;t flatter yourself, Luna.  Unless you pointed a shotgun at their heads they will have forgotten all about you ten doors down.  

They meet dozens of your kind every day.  The only people they remember are those who took a moment to be kind and listen for a moment.

P.S. Mormon missionaries don&#039;t begin proselyting until after 10am, and they quit by 9:00pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luna said: &#8220;They dont come over to my place anymore.. they know better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t flatter yourself, Luna.  Unless you pointed a shotgun at their heads they will have forgotten all about you ten doors down.  </p>
<p>They meet dozens of your kind every day.  The only people they remember are those who took a moment to be kind and listen for a moment.</p>
<p>P.S. Mormon missionaries don&#8217;t begin proselyting until after 10am, and they quit by 9:00pm.</p>
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		<title>By: Luna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve said &quot;How hard is it just to listen to them for a minute and say ‘no thanks’ and close the door. Why do people need to be rude? As a general rule they are coming to your house because they care for your welfare, even if their theology isn’t up to scratch. At least give them decency and respect.&quot;
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Because we are sick of being woken up at 6am with their garbage? because our lives are none of their business? 

Because they are a pack of mindless zombies preaching about stuff they can&#039;t even back up with facts?

just off the top of my head.

They dont come over to my place anymore.. they know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve said &#8220;How hard is it just to listen to them for a minute and say ‘no thanks’ and close the door. Why do people need to be rude? As a general rule they are coming to your house because they care for your welfare, even if their theology isn’t up to scratch. At least give them decency and respect.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Because we are sick of being woken up at 6am with their garbage? because our lives are none of their business? </p>
<p>Because they are a pack of mindless zombies preaching about stuff they can&#8217;t even back up with facts?</p>
<p>just off the top of my head.</p>
<p>They dont come over to my place anymore.. they know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was cornered by some church lady across the street from where I work.  She works her magic on all of the developmentally disabled people who live where I work and across the street (which I think should be a crime).  I basically told her that I had no interest in the church and held no faith in any religion.

She kept telling me that I should come to their church (southern baptist) and find out if I would like it or not.  I basically told her that I was burned by the church at a younger age, and there was probably nothing they could say or do that would change my mind.  Then I brought up how much Christianity contradicts itself, and how violent their god is.  Then I tried to convert her to Buddhism (I&#039;m not even Buddhist, but it I knew enough to piss her off).  

I said something to the effect of &quot;Buddhism is a philosophy.  Take the positive teachings of Jesus and remove the magical nonsense and a violent, jealous god&quot;.

Either way, she said she was going to pray for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was cornered by some church lady across the street from where I work.  She works her magic on all of the developmentally disabled people who live where I work and across the street (which I think should be a crime).  I basically told her that I had no interest in the church and held no faith in any religion.</p>
<p>She kept telling me that I should come to their church (southern baptist) and find out if I would like it or not.  I basically told her that I was burned by the church at a younger age, and there was probably nothing they could say or do that would change my mind.  Then I brought up how much Christianity contradicts itself, and how violent their god is.  Then I tried to convert her to Buddhism (I&#8217;m not even Buddhist, but it I knew enough to piss her off).  </p>
<p>I said something to the effect of &#8220;Buddhism is a philosophy.  Take the positive teachings of Jesus and remove the magical nonsense and a violent, jealous god&#8221;.</p>
<p>Either way, she said she was going to pray for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How hard is it just to listen to them for a minute and say &#039;no thanks&#039; and close the door. Why do people need to be rude? As a general rule they are coming to your house because they care for your welfare, even if their theology isn&#039;t up to scratch. At least give them decency and respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hard is it just to listen to them for a minute and say &#8216;no thanks&#8217; and close the door. Why do people need to be rude? As a general rule they are coming to your house because they care for your welfare, even if their theology isn&#8217;t up to scratch. At least give them decency and respect.</p>
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		<title>By: melba</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/02/07/there-was-a-knock-on-my-door/#comment-270081</link>
		<dc:creator>melba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had the delicious experience once of inlaws, my inlaws visiting from several states away who are retired Lutheran pastor and wife, reacting when people knocked on our door.  Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses.  I was painfully polite to them, nodding understandingly and thanking them and saying goodbye; as soon as the door was shut, in-laws over and over angrily spoke of how the Witnesses were trying to get poor little me suckered in.  But all the while they said these things, I was thinking, I treat you two with the same tolerant, painful politeness: don&#039;t you see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had the delicious experience once of inlaws, my inlaws visiting from several states away who are retired Lutheran pastor and wife, reacting when people knocked on our door.  Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses.  I was painfully polite to them, nodding understandingly and thanking them and saying goodbye; as soon as the door was shut, in-laws over and over angrily spoke of how the Witnesses were trying to get poor little me suckered in.  But all the while they said these things, I was thinking, I treat you two with the same tolerant, painful politeness: don&#8217;t you see?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/02/07/there-was-a-knock-on-my-door/#comment-269333</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I used to live and commute in the city more often, I&#039;d frequently run into mormon missionaries trying to convert me on the subway. I&#039;d simply explain to them that I&#039;m a gay man and an atheist, that I know enough about their religion to believe it&#039;s immoral and not be interested... but that I&#039;m single and they&#039;re cute and if either of them would like a date...

They would say &quot;no thank you&quot; and go away.

Once a pair of them got themselves let into my apartment building by ringing a random doorbell, and woke me up in the morning by knocking on my door. I was groggy and grumpy and didn&#039;t use my manners: I answered the door in my underwear and propositioned them. Both of them. I told them I was horny and invited them in for a three way. You could see the blood drain out of their faces before they turned and left...

Strangely, no religious door-knockers have bothered me since I moved to the burbs. I thought I&#039;d get more of them here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I used to live and commute in the city more often, I&#8217;d frequently run into mormon missionaries trying to convert me on the subway. I&#8217;d simply explain to them that I&#8217;m a gay man and an atheist, that I know enough about their religion to believe it&#8217;s immoral and not be interested&#8230; but that I&#8217;m single and they&#8217;re cute and if either of them would like a date&#8230;</p>
<p>They would say &#8220;no thank you&#8221; and go away.</p>
<p>Once a pair of them got themselves let into my apartment building by ringing a random doorbell, and woke me up in the morning by knocking on my door. I was groggy and grumpy and didn&#8217;t use my manners: I answered the door in my underwear and propositioned them. Both of them. I told them I was horny and invited them in for a three way. You could see the blood drain out of their faces before they turned and left&#8230;</p>
<p>Strangely, no religious door-knockers have bothered me since I moved to the burbs. I thought I&#8217;d get more of them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad told me a story about his parents once letting a set of Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses into their house.  My grandmother, being the lady she is, offered then cookies and lemonade and my grandfather started talking about philosophy and religion interspersed with math (the man was a chemist at a steel mill and something like 4th in a line of atheists that lead to me and my brothers).  Anywho... as the story goes, supposedly the two leave as doubters and my grandmother gives the rest of the cookies to my dad to take to his friends (don&#039;t know why that parts important, but it&#039;s always in the story).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad told me a story about his parents once letting a set of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses into their house.  My grandmother, being the lady she is, offered then cookies and lemonade and my grandfather started talking about philosophy and religion interspersed with math (the man was a chemist at a steel mill and something like 4th in a line of atheists that lead to me and my brothers).  Anywho&#8230; as the story goes, supposedly the two leave as doubters and my grandmother gives the rest of the cookies to my dad to take to his friends (don&#8217;t know why that parts important, but it&#8217;s always in the story).</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did as you did...simply stated that I didn&#039;t believe in any gods and wasn&#039;t interested in religion, as politely and pleasantly as is possible.  The folks looked amazed but were polite as well and walked off.

I once had a very gentle and open conversation with a pair of Mormon missionary kids. They were unfailingly polite and reasonable; very unlike evangelical witnesses. I answered their questions, most of which were basically the usual misunderstandings about atheism.  

At my statement that I found no clear or consistent proof of supernatural beings they responded, &quot;well, if we can come up with something you&#039;d accept as evidence, would you hear us out?&quot;  I said I would indeed and we all shook hands and I never saw them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did as you did&#8230;simply stated that I didn&#8217;t believe in any gods and wasn&#8217;t interested in religion, as politely and pleasantly as is possible.  The folks looked amazed but were polite as well and walked off.</p>
<p>I once had a very gentle and open conversation with a pair of Mormon missionary kids. They were unfailingly polite and reasonable; very unlike evangelical witnesses. I answered their questions, most of which were basically the usual misunderstandings about atheism.  </p>
<p>At my statement that I found no clear or consistent proof of supernatural beings they responded, &#8220;well, if we can come up with something you&#8217;d accept as evidence, would you hear us out?&#8221;  I said I would indeed and we all shook hands and I never saw them again.</p>
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