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	<title>Comments on: Why We Don&#8217;t Need to Worry About Global Warming</title>
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		<title>By: Sophie's Ladder. Christian theology, philosophy, world religions, science.</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/03/29/why-we-dont-need-to-worry-about-global-warming/#comment-294733</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie's Ladder. Christian theology, philosophy, world religions, science.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its time to be over&#8220;:  Illinois!  You Elected John Shimkus?  What Were You Thinking?;  Why We Don&#8217;t Need to Worry About Global Warming; Rep. John Shimkus:  Only God Decides When Earth Will End;  Only God Can Destroy the Earth?  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its time to be over&#8220;:  Illinois!  You Elected John Shimkus?  What Were You Thinking?;  Why We Don&#8217;t Need to Worry About Global Warming; Rep. John Shimkus:  Only God Decides When Earth Will End;  Only God Can Destroy the Earth?  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute.  This is the U.S. House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, right? Shimkus starts off saying, &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We have members of the clergy here as members of the panel.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What panel? What the heck are members of the clergy doing in a discussion about energy and the environment, and about the environmental impact of carbon emissions?  I&#039;m already impressed with the Congressman&#039;s expertise in paleo-atmospheric chemistry, but now we have clergy who are climatologists as well?  Ah, the wonders of the American educational system.  

Later he says, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There is a theological debate that this is a carbon-starved planet, not too much carbon.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A &lt;em&gt;theological&lt;/em&gt; debate?? 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Then God said, &#039;Let the air be rich with the essence of soot and lamp black, so that the vegetation should partake of it and be abundant, the plants and trees shall grow everywhere.&#039;&quot;&lt;/em&gt; 

First Shimkus says that everything is fine on Earth because God has said so, but then he says that something is wrong and the Earth is starving for carbon. I guess he&#039;s framed &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; theological debate. 

If we find a large asteroid on a collision course with the Earth, are we going to invite clergy to the U.S. House Subcommittee on Saving Our Asses for a theological debate on asteroid deflection?  After all, several members of the clergy are probably experts in astrophysics, orbital dynamics and applied mathematics.  Do they study this stuff in their spare time, or do they somehow get it all out of the Bible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute.  This is the U.S. House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment, right? Shimkus starts off saying,<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;We have members of the clergy here as members of the panel.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What panel? What the heck are members of the clergy doing in a discussion about energy and the environment, and about the environmental impact of carbon emissions?  I&#8217;m already impressed with the Congressman&#8217;s expertise in paleo-atmospheric chemistry, but now we have clergy who are climatologists as well?  Ah, the wonders of the American educational system.  </p>
<p>Later he says, </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is a theological debate that this is a carbon-starved planet, not too much carbon.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A <em>theological</em> debate?? </p>
<p><em>&#8220;Then God said, &#8216;Let the air be rich with the essence of soot and lamp black, so that the vegetation should partake of it and be abundant, the plants and trees shall grow everywhere.&#8217;&#8221;</em> </p>
<p>First Shimkus says that everything is fine on Earth because God has said so, but then he says that something is wrong and the Earth is starving for carbon. I guess he&#8217;s framed <em>that</em> theological debate. </p>
<p>If we find a large asteroid on a collision course with the Earth, are we going to invite clergy to the U.S. House Subcommittee on Saving Our Asses for a theological debate on asteroid deflection?  After all, several members of the clergy are probably experts in astrophysics, orbital dynamics and applied mathematics.  Do they study this stuff in their spare time, or do they somehow get it all out of the Bible?</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t Illinois&#039; politicians embarrassed themselves enough lately?*

*Note: I am totally lying.  I enjoyed the freak show that was Blago, and if he wants to come back and be insane again, I will watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t Illinois&#8217; politicians embarrassed themselves enough lately?*</p>
<p>*Note: I am totally lying.  I enjoyed the freak show that was Blago, and if he wants to come back and be insane again, I will watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Tjoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Tjoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, global warming is so real. Evidences based on scientific research as well first hand observation shows that these weather patterns are very alarming.

To see a man of cloth (or of some particular brand of religion) saying that Earth will not be affected by it, is like denying our sinful nature and its effect toward the planet!

Most disasters, ecological damages, disease and epidemics are caused by human nature.

In Genesis, God told man &quot;Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it.&quot; 
But the way mankind rapes the environment and not conserve it shows great ungovernance!

Now they want to say that &quot;Earth will be alright, God judgment hasn&#039;t come.&quot; 

Gorramit, God has little to do with this! We&#039;re causing our own planet&#039;s demise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, global warming is so real. Evidences based on scientific research as well first hand observation shows that these weather patterns are very alarming.</p>
<p>To see a man of cloth (or of some particular brand of religion) saying that Earth will not be affected by it, is like denying our sinful nature and its effect toward the planet!</p>
<p>Most disasters, ecological damages, disease and epidemics are caused by human nature.</p>
<p>In Genesis, God told man &#8220;Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it.&#8221;<br />
But the way mankind rapes the environment and not conserve it shows great ungovernance!</p>
<p>Now they want to say that &#8220;Earth will be alright, God judgment hasn&#8217;t come.&#8221; </p>
<p>Gorramit, God has little to do with this! We&#8217;re causing our own planet&#8217;s demise!</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an acquaintance at SIUC that was from Effingham that did some probation and community service time for shooting that stupid eye-sore of a cross with a shotgun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an acquaintance at SIUC that was from Effingham that did some probation and community service time for shooting that stupid eye-sore of a cross with a shotgun.</p>
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		<title>By: Plainfieldrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plainfieldrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my hometown rep (I now live in Plainfield). 

John is a Missouri Synod Lutheran - he is on the board of my old church/school.  This is not surprising in the least.  A family friend, he is actually a nice guy.  But theology will always come before evidence with him...and the Missouri Synod folks take pride in their evolution/global warming denying.  He was a teacher at Metro East Lutehran High along side a close family friend.  Just to give you a tase of the Missouri Synod - at Metro East they don&#039;t even touch on Evolution in biology class.  Skip it entirely - like not even a mention (they only discuss micro-evolution - not speciation, etc).  Sad.

The 19th is both rural and non-rural.  Metro East area, especially Collinsville/Edwardsville/O&#039;Fallon is one of the fastest growing areas in the US.

I went to SIU-Carbondale too and know the Alto Cross well (shown on the icon for District Map).  It is a very concervative district to say the least - but like the 14th I live in now, is becoming more liberal with each election.  There is hope that Shimkus will be out in the next few elections - they have a growing Democratic Party down there.

I&#039;m always bummed when my hometown gets such a bad rap.  I swear to nobody in particular that we aren&#039;t all like Shimkus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my hometown rep (I now live in Plainfield). </p>
<p>John is a Missouri Synod Lutheran &#8211; he is on the board of my old church/school.  This is not surprising in the least.  A family friend, he is actually a nice guy.  But theology will always come before evidence with him&#8230;and the Missouri Synod folks take pride in their evolution/global warming denying.  He was a teacher at Metro East Lutehran High along side a close family friend.  Just to give you a tase of the Missouri Synod &#8211; at Metro East they don&#8217;t even touch on Evolution in biology class.  Skip it entirely &#8211; like not even a mention (they only discuss micro-evolution &#8211; not speciation, etc).  Sad.</p>
<p>The 19th is both rural and non-rural.  Metro East area, especially Collinsville/Edwardsville/O&#8217;Fallon is one of the fastest growing areas in the US.</p>
<p>I went to SIU-Carbondale too and know the Alto Cross well (shown on the icon for District Map).  It is a very concervative district to say the least &#8211; but like the 14th I live in now, is becoming more liberal with each election.  There is hope that Shimkus will be out in the next few elections &#8211; they have a growing Democratic Party down there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always bummed when my hometown gets such a bad rap.  I swear to nobody in particular that we aren&#8217;t all like Shimkus!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iason, don&#039;t bash orangutans. They&#039;re nothing like this guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iason, don&#8217;t bash orangutans. They&#8217;re nothing like this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He reminds me of how the preacher at my parents&#039; church claimed that environmentalists are arrogant for believing that humanity can destroy the Earth because the bible says God will do it, not man.  Then he turned around and added a disclaimer that we should still try to protect the Earth anyway because God said to.  So, apparently environmentalists are arrogant for having genuine concerns about the Earth but it&#039;s ok to do so if God says to.  Why are people still turning to religious nutjobs as being sources of authority on subjects like these?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He reminds me of how the preacher at my parents&#8217; church claimed that environmentalists are arrogant for believing that humanity can destroy the Earth because the bible says God will do it, not man.  Then he turned around and added a disclaimer that we should still try to protect the Earth anyway because God said to.  So, apparently environmentalists are arrogant for having genuine concerns about the Earth but it&#8217;s ok to do so if God says to.  Why are people still turning to religious nutjobs as being sources of authority on subjects like these?</p>
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		<title>By: SarahH</title>
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		<dc:creator>SarahH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can honestly say I don&#039;t care if my government representatives believe stuff like this in their personal lives, but when they let it out in their occupational capacity and act like complete loons, I don&#039;t think they should get to keep their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can honestly say I don&#8217;t care if my government representatives believe stuff like this in their personal lives, but when they let it out in their occupational capacity and act like complete loons, I don&#8217;t think they should get to keep their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Asad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, his ignorance is scary. Shouldn&#039;t someone try to educate our political leaders about science? I mean, if anyone needs to understand science, aside from scientists themselves, isn&#039;t it the people who make our laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, his ignorance is scary. Shouldn&#8217;t someone try to educate our political leaders about science? I mean, if anyone needs to understand science, aside from scientists themselves, isn&#8217;t it the people who make our laws?</p>
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