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		<title>By: Adam the Open-Minded Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/04/13/when-interfaith-relationships-go-bad/#comment-587165</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam the Open-Minded Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Christian and my girlfriend is an atheist.  I can tell you right now, if you love the person enough you won&#039;t care what they believe.  I think that you should love someone for who they are, not what they believe.  Sure, I get scared for her and all of my friends who are atheists.  Love the people around you for WHO THEY ARE!  Not what they believe.  Atheists are more open-minded than most religious people are.  We are all entitled to our beliefs and our ideas.  You can offer to discuss it when your significant other is ready. Just be willing to hear what he/she has to say, if you don&#039;t then nothing will be resolved. They won&#039;t necessarily think that you&#039;re ignorant for believing what you do.  Everyone has different experiences in life and that makes us into who we are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Christian and my girlfriend is an atheist.  I can tell you right now, if you love the person enough you won&#8217;t care what they believe.  I think that you should love someone for who they are, not what they believe.  Sure, I get scared for her and all of my friends who are atheists.  Love the people around you for WHO THEY ARE!  Not what they believe.  Atheists are more open-minded than most religious people are.  We are all entitled to our beliefs and our ideas.  You can offer to discuss it when your significant other is ready. Just be willing to hear what he/she has to say, if you don&#8217;t then nothing will be resolved. They won&#8217;t necessarily think that you&#8217;re ignorant for believing what you do.  Everyone has different experiences in life and that makes us into who we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: KemaTheAtheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/04/13/when-interfaith-relationships-go-bad/#comment-307240</link>
		<dc:creator>KemaTheAtheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a few weeks ago I proposed to my fiance... a catholic girl, though I&#039;ve noted to her before that a lot of her views are much more deistic than catholic.

As far as our relationship has gone so far, it&#039;s been fantastic. She knew I was an atheist up front, and her parents learned that only a couple weeks after we started dating. My parents actually have a bigger problem with me being an atheist that her parents do. And this part is just awesome... my future mother-in-law actually told my mom that she needs to back off of me about being an atheist.


We&#039;ve never really had a fight, though we have had many discussions. They&#039;re always civil, never any shouting or anything.

The most &quot;serious&quot; ones end up on how we would raise our kids and it came down to compromise (as if there was another option...). We&#039;ve come to compromises about baptism, when they can start learning about religion, what schools they would go to and conditions that I would be okay with a private school. I get to teach them as much science as I want, so they won&#039;t be ignorant of that at all on that front.

Many people have said this before me... you need to communicate. Don&#039;t just avoid the subject... you need to talk about it, or it will fester until it is talked about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a few weeks ago I proposed to my fiance&#8230; a catholic girl, though I&#8217;ve noted to her before that a lot of her views are much more deistic than catholic.</p>
<p>As far as our relationship has gone so far, it&#8217;s been fantastic. She knew I was an atheist up front, and her parents learned that only a couple weeks after we started dating. My parents actually have a bigger problem with me being an atheist that her parents do. And this part is just awesome&#8230; my future mother-in-law actually told my mom that she needs to back off of me about being an atheist.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve never really had a fight, though we have had many discussions. They&#8217;re always civil, never any shouting or anything.</p>
<p>The most &#8220;serious&#8221; ones end up on how we would raise our kids and it came down to compromise (as if there was another option&#8230;). We&#8217;ve come to compromises about baptism, when they can start learning about religion, what schools they would go to and conditions that I would be okay with a private school. I get to teach them as much science as I want, so they won&#8217;t be ignorant of that at all on that front.</p>
<p>Many people have said this before me&#8230; you need to communicate. Don&#8217;t just avoid the subject&#8230; you need to talk about it, or it will fester until it is talked about.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really great to read other people&#039;s stories about interfaith relationships. I am an atheist and am dating a guy for almost two years that is a devote Catholic. We have had numerous disagreements in the past about how we would raise a family if we got married. I do not want to raise children in a religious household as he was raised, and he wants to give them the option of choosing their faith. This sounds fine to me, but he also wants his kids to attend private, religious schools (because they are the best he says). 

I feel as though he will not really let our children choose and try to &quot;force&quot; his religion on them. I love him but am so confused about a long term marriage, even though he does not seem to worry. Children should not come between a marriage but I feel as though they would. Whenever I try to discuss this with him it somehow always ends in a fight. I don&#039;t know what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really great to read other people&#8217;s stories about interfaith relationships. I am an atheist and am dating a guy for almost two years that is a devote Catholic. We have had numerous disagreements in the past about how we would raise a family if we got married. I do not want to raise children in a religious household as he was raised, and he wants to give them the option of choosing their faith. This sounds fine to me, but he also wants his kids to attend private, religious schools (because they are the best he says). </p>
<p>I feel as though he will not really let our children choose and try to &#8220;force&#8221; his religion on them. I love him but am so confused about a long term marriage, even though he does not seem to worry. Children should not come between a marriage but I feel as though they would. Whenever I try to discuss this with him it somehow always ends in a fight. I don&#8217;t know what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Shae</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/04/13/when-interfaith-relationships-go-bad/#comment-298293</link>
		<dc:creator>Shae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before dating any person of faith, I&#039;d find out if they seriously believe that non-believers are going to hell. For some religious people, this is a nonexistant or very iffy belief. For others it is very serious, and IMHO, an atheist should not date this kind of believer.

When I was a Christian, I dated atheists and knew other Christians who did, because &quot;Believe on the Lord and you shall be saved, and your house.&quot; In other words, God will probably bring them around, especially if you get married. 

When God doesn&#039;t bring them around, this won&#039;t be a mere disappointment for the hell-centric Christian, but a terrifying, deadly important problem. Think about it -- who wants their spouse being tortured for eternity if they can take a step to avoid it? This will become an insurmountable problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before dating any person of faith, I&#8217;d find out if they seriously believe that non-believers are going to hell. For some religious people, this is a nonexistant or very iffy belief. For others it is very serious, and IMHO, an atheist should not date this kind of believer.</p>
<p>When I was a Christian, I dated atheists and knew other Christians who did, because &#8220;Believe on the Lord and you shall be saved, and your house.&#8221; In other words, God will probably bring them around, especially if you get married. </p>
<p>When God doesn&#8217;t bring them around, this won&#8217;t be a mere disappointment for the hell-centric Christian, but a terrifying, deadly important problem. Think about it &#8212; who wants their spouse being tortured for eternity if they can take a step to avoid it? This will become an insurmountable problem.</p>
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		<title>By: cassiek</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassiek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been successfully married to a fellow atheist for 25 years, but when I was single I did date religious people, mainly Jewish and Christian.  I never lasted past a second date with the hard-core Christians; I just couldn&#039;t get past the preaching.  I had one long-term relationship with a Jewish man, but his family was fairly secular.  However, when we started thinking about marriage, his family began to pressure me to convert, which I could not do in good conscience.  It wasn&#039;t the main reason we ended our relationship but it did contribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been successfully married to a fellow atheist for 25 years, but when I was single I did date religious people, mainly Jewish and Christian.  I never lasted past a second date with the hard-core Christians; I just couldn&#8217;t get past the preaching.  I had one long-term relationship with a Jewish man, but his family was fairly secular.  However, when we started thinking about marriage, his family began to pressure me to convert, which I could not do in good conscience.  It wasn&#8217;t the main reason we ended our relationship but it did contribute.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could never date someone who was devout in any faith. I&#039;m in a relationship but if I were ever single again, it would be a requirement. I couldn&#039;t handle someone on my ass about going to hell all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could never date someone who was devout in any faith. I&#8217;m in a relationship but if I were ever single again, it would be a requirement. I couldn&#8217;t handle someone on my ass about going to hell all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Caton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Caton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not so difficult to date interfaith.  It&#039;s extremely difficult to seriously date interfaith or marry, because then the family pressures intervene.  If you&#039;re dating casually then don&#039;t worry too much about it, but if the relationship goes anywhere, you absolutely have to be ready to stand your ground, and to sacrifice either your principles for your relationship, or the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so difficult to date interfaith.  It&#8217;s extremely difficult to seriously date interfaith or marry, because then the family pressures intervene.  If you&#8217;re dating casually then don&#8217;t worry too much about it, but if the relationship goes anywhere, you absolutely have to be ready to stand your ground, and to sacrifice either your principles for your relationship, or the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kawlinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kawlinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These issues don&#039;t stem from just having different beliefs, the issues stem from your partner having a flawed method for determining reality. It&#039;s hard to respect people who just seem to make things up for what they believe, so of course it&#039;s going to have an impact on your relationship.

People who have their own unquestionable methods of determining reality are probably people you don&#039;t want to get involved with in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These issues don&#8217;t stem from just having different beliefs, the issues stem from your partner having a flawed method for determining reality. It&#8217;s hard to respect people who just seem to make things up for what they believe, so of course it&#8217;s going to have an impact on your relationship.</p>
<p>People who have their own unquestionable methods of determining reality are probably people you don&#8217;t want to get involved with in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy D - This is Erik from the Erik and Kate story posted here a while back. Kate might join in later, I don&#039;t know...she&#039;s at an academic conference for the week.

My view is similar to that of your girlfriend in that I just don&#039;t know. I believe that Jesus has something to do with the accessibility of heaven, however I&#039;m unsure of how stringent the requirements are. A favorite book on the afterlife for me is &quot;The Great Divorce&quot; by C.S. Lewis. It offers a very non-traditional and more fluid version of the afterlife that most of us have been told.

The problem, as it sounds to me, is her insistence that she go to heaven with her husband. This assumes that marriage still exists in the Christian afterlife, and in fact it does not. Jesus himself addresses this in Mark 12:18-37 when he says that in heaven everyone is like the angels, who do not have the institution of marriage. So I really fail to see why she is insisting you go with her into the great beyond. Marriage is an clearly only an earthly institution (aka &quot;until death do us part&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy D &#8211; This is Erik from the Erik and Kate story posted here a while back. Kate might join in later, I don&#8217;t know&#8230;she&#8217;s at an academic conference for the week.</p>
<p>My view is similar to that of your girlfriend in that I just don&#8217;t know. I believe that Jesus has something to do with the accessibility of heaven, however I&#8217;m unsure of how stringent the requirements are. A favorite book on the afterlife for me is &#8220;The Great Divorce&#8221; by C.S. Lewis. It offers a very non-traditional and more fluid version of the afterlife that most of us have been told.</p>
<p>The problem, as it sounds to me, is her insistence that she go to heaven with her husband. This assumes that marriage still exists in the Christian afterlife, and in fact it does not. Jesus himself addresses this in Mark 12:18-37 when he says that in heaven everyone is like the angels, who do not have the institution of marriage. So I really fail to see why she is insisting you go with her into the great beyond. Marriage is an clearly only an earthly institution (aka &#8220;until death do us part&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: dfledermaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>dfledermaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back before I decided I was an atheist, I was already pretty much an agnostic. Then I met a woman who was a Wiccan and head of a coven. I went to a few of their gatherings, (12 nekkid people in a hot tub was one of the more memorable ones!) but remained pretty much on the sidelines despite some extraordinarily carnal proselytization. She finally dropped me when she realized I preferred conjoining to conversion. Still, If you have to have someone trying to recruit you into their faith, I&#039;ll take this method over having a missionary ring your doorbell on Saturday morning &lt;em&gt;every time!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back before I decided I was an atheist, I was already pretty much an agnostic. Then I met a woman who was a Wiccan and head of a coven. I went to a few of their gatherings, (12 nekkid people in a hot tub was one of the more memorable ones!) but remained pretty much on the sidelines despite some extraordinarily carnal proselytization. She finally dropped me when she realized I preferred conjoining to conversion. Still, If you have to have someone trying to recruit you into their faith, I&#8217;ll take this method over having a missionary ring your doorbell on Saturday morning <em>every time!</em></p>
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