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	<title>Comments on: You Say We&#8217;re Redefining Marriage?  You&#8217;re Redefining Love</title>
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		<title>By: Day 18- My Views on Gay Marriage &#171; Making Limoncello Out of Lemons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Day 18- My Views on Gay Marriage &#171; Making Limoncello Out of Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] marriage of two people of the same-sex will affect anything about the sanctity of marriage or the definition of marriage or will ruin marriages in general is just bullshit. If saying that gay marriage will change [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] marriage of two people of the same-sex will affect anything about the sanctity of marriage or the definition of marriage or will ruin marriages in general is just bullshit. If saying that gay marriage will change [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I completely agree! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I completely agree! <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, thank you for your sincere and open-minded questions, for your thoughtful suggestion, and for your insightful, positive and encouraging epithet.

I&#039;m sure that we are as better off for your having visited us as everyone else in your life is for your gracious and generous input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, thank you for your sincere and open-minded questions, for your thoughtful suggestion, and for your insightful, positive and encouraging epithet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that we are as better off for your having visited us as everyone else in your life is for your gracious and generous input.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you people know all Atheists support gay marriage? Why do Atheists spend so much time hating religion. Get a life you idiots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you people know all Atheists support gay marriage? Why do Atheists spend so much time hating religion. Get a life you idiots!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two favorite things: Insight &amp; clarity. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two favorite things: Insight &amp; clarity. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: AxeGrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>AxeGrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>writerdd said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have no idea why anyone at all — never mind Christians who are supposed to represent the love of God — would want to stop two adults who love each other from making a commitment to continue that love and to join together to form a family unit. It’s just counterintuitive and hypocritical and myopic. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



It&#039;s because they don&#039;t care about love as much as they care about protecting their figurative &#039;country club&#039; from being &#039;diminished&#039; by letting &#039;undesirables&#039; join.

Sad.

and as you said....&#039;counterintuitive and hypocritical and myopic&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>writerdd said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have no idea why anyone at all — never mind Christians who are supposed to represent the love of God — would want to stop two adults who love each other from making a commitment to continue that love and to join together to form a family unit. It’s just counterintuitive and hypocritical and myopic. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t care about love as much as they care about protecting their figurative &#8216;country club&#8217; from being &#8216;diminished&#8217; by letting &#8216;undesirables&#8217; join.</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
<p>and as you said&#8230;.&#8217;counterintuitive and hypocritical and myopic&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the women submissive, man leading has gotten stronger in some denominations.  The Southern Baptists had one seminary fire a women in the Theology school because women shouldn&#039;t be instructing adult men in theology (she was actually teaching Greek but that was considered close enough).   The Southern Baptists have also been limiting the authority of women missionaries (they aren&#039;t allowed to be senior pastors).  This is perhaps because many of the moderates (such as Jimmy Carter) have been pushed out or left the Southern Baptists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the women submissive, man leading has gotten stronger in some denominations.  The Southern Baptists had one seminary fire a women in the Theology school because women shouldn&#8217;t be instructing adult men in theology (she was actually teaching Greek but that was considered close enough).   The Southern Baptists have also been limiting the authority of women missionaries (they aren&#8217;t allowed to be senior pastors).  This is perhaps because many of the moderates (such as Jimmy Carter) have been pushed out or left the Southern Baptists.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sort of funny regarding the question of mariage and the redefinition.  Just so the namecallers can get their rocks ready I&#039;m white straight and christian although not a regular attender, and in truth if as a WASP I am at the top of the social ladder every one else has a right to complain as my life is frequently difficult and if this is as good as it gets no wonder everyone else is pissed off.  

I recently had someone become very upset with me for raising the question of with Iowa&#039;s redefinition of mariage and raising the question of poligamy. Apparently the gay individidual didn&#039;t appreicate the comment being compared to people he considered filthy and degenerate /shrug sometimes open mindedness only applies to you and isn&#039;t something you&#039;d extend towards others.

More just to stir the pot I find I also find I have some very different views on the Gay Lesbian and /salute to the brave transgenders who have the courage of thier convictions.  From the I respect that fact that you are a woman and are attracted to women and that if you are a man and are attracted to men.  You know who you are and what you want and I&#039;m ok with that.  I do however find my self less sympathetic to the women who like women and then seek to become men without having the courage to go all the way.  I mean by that those who do thier very best to appear as men/women when they are not rightly or wrongly I judge those individuals as people who have not chosen to admire and desire those of the same sex but those who are so deeply unhappy with themselves that they wish they were different. While I&#039;m sure to catch the flames for this from those who proclaim they are happy with who they are I ask the simple question if you are happy with who you are and the choices you make why do you seek so desperately to appear as other than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sort of funny regarding the question of mariage and the redefinition.  Just so the namecallers can get their rocks ready I&#8217;m white straight and christian although not a regular attender, and in truth if as a WASP I am at the top of the social ladder every one else has a right to complain as my life is frequently difficult and if this is as good as it gets no wonder everyone else is pissed off.  </p>
<p>I recently had someone become very upset with me for raising the question of with Iowa&#8217;s redefinition of mariage and raising the question of poligamy. Apparently the gay individidual didn&#8217;t appreicate the comment being compared to people he considered filthy and degenerate /shrug sometimes open mindedness only applies to you and isn&#8217;t something you&#8217;d extend towards others.</p>
<p>More just to stir the pot I find I also find I have some very different views on the Gay Lesbian and /salute to the brave transgenders who have the courage of thier convictions.  From the I respect that fact that you are a woman and are attracted to women and that if you are a man and are attracted to men.  You know who you are and what you want and I&#8217;m ok with that.  I do however find my self less sympathetic to the women who like women and then seek to become men without having the courage to go all the way.  I mean by that those who do thier very best to appear as men/women when they are not rightly or wrongly I judge those individuals as people who have not chosen to admire and desire those of the same sex but those who are so deeply unhappy with themselves that they wish they were different. While I&#8217;m sure to catch the flames for this from those who proclaim they are happy with who they are I ask the simple question if you are happy with who you are and the choices you make why do you seek so desperately to appear as other than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Turrboenvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turrboenvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Siamang:

Great, now they&#039;ll complain that we&#039;re redefining &quot;family.&quot; Of course they&#039;ll say the definition of family &quot;has always been:&quot; A father, a mother, and as many kids as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Siamang:</p>
<p>Great, now they&#8217;ll complain that we&#8217;re redefining &#8220;family.&#8221; Of course they&#8217;ll say the definition of family &#8220;has always been:&#8221; A father, a mother, and as many kids as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: writerdd</title>
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		<dc:creator>writerdd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution is mind your own business and lead life the way you believe you should, but don&#039;t try to force everyone else to live your way through legislation. As far as this goes, I think the Amish are the most admirable. You don&#039;t see them trying to make laws against buttons or cars just because they don&#039;t use them.

This whole thing about Christians trying to force their values on everyone else through legislation is entirely unChristian. Christianity is worthless if it is not voluntary. If evangelicalism wants to use politics to coerce everyone else into living &quot;righteously&quot; then how is that any different than the Spanish Inquisition, etc, except in degree? 

Of course, many Christians keep saying that they don&#039;t sin because they fear hell, so maybe for them legislation is the only way they can see to keep us heathen under control. That&#039;s a fucked up view of life and morality if you ask me. I guess they can&#039;t understand the concept of being &quot;good for goodness sake&quot; (which is quite ironic if you ask me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is mind your own business and lead life the way you believe you should, but don&#8217;t try to force everyone else to live your way through legislation. As far as this goes, I think the Amish are the most admirable. You don&#8217;t see them trying to make laws against buttons or cars just because they don&#8217;t use them.</p>
<p>This whole thing about Christians trying to force their values on everyone else through legislation is entirely unChristian. Christianity is worthless if it is not voluntary. If evangelicalism wants to use politics to coerce everyone else into living &#8220;righteously&#8221; then how is that any different than the Spanish Inquisition, etc, except in degree? </p>
<p>Of course, many Christians keep saying that they don&#8217;t sin because they fear hell, so maybe for them legislation is the only way they can see to keep us heathen under control. That&#8217;s a fucked up view of life and morality if you ask me. I guess they can&#8217;t understand the concept of being &#8220;good for goodness sake&#8221; (which is quite ironic if you ask me).</p>
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