Comments on: Indiana Bus Company Rejects Atheist Ad http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/ by Hemant Mehta Mon, 28 May 2012 07:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Tiberius http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310123 Tiberius Sun, 17 May 2009 06:16:14 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310123 Diakonos, With all due respect - ok, we've heard your opinion, we've seen how little you think of us, and we've suffered every stone you could think of to throw. Now, please - in the name of simply moving on, will you stop badgering the people in this post. You've stated you're a devout Christian - fair enough: you've had your say, now please stop being disruptive in a thread where you have no interest or peer group. If you must have the last word, I'll gladly give it to you, if it will bring a ceasefire to this ridiculous and counterproductive dialogue; however, please try to be respectful and polite in doing so - it would certainly make a good showing for the convictions you say you hold. If you're in a particularly good mood, I think it would be an incredibly mature (and Christian) gesture to apologize to those you've abused, even though you feel they've abused you in turn. I think you know where I'm going with that. Regards, Tiberius Diakonos,

With all due respect – ok, we’ve heard your opinion, we’ve seen how little you think of us, and we’ve suffered every stone you could think of to throw. Now, please – in the name of simply moving on, will you stop badgering the people in this post. You’ve stated you’re a devout Christian – fair enough: you’ve had your say, now please stop being disruptive in a thread where you have no interest or peer group. If you must have the last word, I’ll gladly give it to you, if it will bring a ceasefire to this ridiculous and counterproductive dialogue; however, please try to be respectful and polite in doing so – it would certainly make a good showing for the convictions you say you hold.

If you’re in a particularly good mood, I think it would be an incredibly mature (and Christian) gesture to apologize to those you’ve abused, even though you feel they’ve abused you in turn. I think you know where I’m going with that.

Regards,

Tiberius

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310099 Diakonos Sun, 17 May 2009 04:15:03 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310099 You know, when I came to this discussion I thought that the non starter atheists had finally got it together enough to make an impact. I was wrong, you people can't see past yourselves or your past to ever mount a descent attack. My spouting about my IQ gave you an opening and you didn't disappoint me. Look at the posts, never once has any of you actually brought up an issue. Hatred, anger, criticism, and so on, nothing ever on topic. I don't believe any of you know a thing about the bible. You people will never get it together, you are a product of the educational system and will never break out of the self pity and dogma that you have be conditioned to believe in. Barbara your words are empty, it's like the bully who runs away saying I'm going to get you. I would laugh at you but really you are quite sad. Resorting to name calling, come on are you 2 years old? Even after I point out your self destructive line of discussion and that your losing ground, you are not self controlled enough to stop. Your father was right but you should of listened to him instead of pointing fingers, obviously he was talking to you and I am not surprised. I bet it would of saved you some pain more than once. Barbara you are the worst of them, have you no self control? Are you so wrapped in your superiority that you will continue down a dead end. You speak of; if you had a conversation, if you did this or if you did that, where are you going with that? Come on seriously, can you really think that you even know whats right or wrong. Not according to this page, you can't even conduct yourself properly when given a chance to confront a Christian. You waste your time insulting his writing. LOL Really? Like most over educated people they stick of a single minor point and beat it to death regardless if it's on topic or not. You will never see how ineffective and predictable you are and therefore never make a difference in the world. I think the answer is clear, unless you call your conduct here good,(and sadly you might) NO you CAN'T be good without GOD! "So as much as I’d like to counter some of your accusations with items straight from the Bible, I can tell by your previous posts that you will not be open to such conversations." That would be refreshing Barbara but I don't think you know enough of the word of God to ever carry on an "intelligent" conversation. If you did you would of. You are afraid so you wrap yourself in your delusions and sit there criticizing anyone that is actually doing something. Barbra you are completely out of touch with reality, get some help. You will never find happiness until you come to terms with whatever it is that is holding you back. "it would prove more gracious of you to allow your intellect to be shown through your ability to listen to others perspectives" Always the need to be heard, what makes you think that your opinion is worth being heard, get over yourself. You are not that important that you need to be heard. If you have something intelligent to say people will listen but your ranting and attacking is unproductive to say the least. I don't think anyone has to listen to me but you keep coming back, like a dog with a bone you just can't let it go. Again get over yourself, you might just find your life more tolerable. Your father should of told you if can't say something nice then don't say anything at all. LOL "being good without God" too funny people, you are your own worst enemy no one needs to stop your campaign, because no one will ever listen to you. Diakonos You know, when I came to this discussion I thought that the non starter atheists had finally got it together enough to make an impact. I was wrong, you people can’t see past yourselves or your past to ever mount a descent attack. My spouting about my IQ gave you an opening and you didn’t disappoint me. Look at the posts, never once has any of you actually brought up an issue. Hatred, anger, criticism, and so on, nothing ever on topic. I don’t believe any of you know a thing about the bible. You people will never get it together, you are a product of the educational system and will never break out of the self pity and dogma that you have be conditioned to believe in.
Barbara your words are empty, it’s like the bully who runs away saying I’m going to get you. I would laugh at you but really you are quite sad. Resorting to name calling, come on are you 2 years old? Even after I point out your self destructive line of discussion and that your losing ground, you are not self controlled enough to stop. Your father was right but you should of listened to him instead of pointing fingers, obviously he was talking to you and I am not surprised. I bet it would of saved you some pain more than once. Barbara you are the worst of them, have you no self control? Are you so wrapped in your superiority that you will continue down a dead end. You speak of; if you had a conversation, if you did this or if you did that, where are you going with that? Come on seriously, can you really think that you even know whats right or wrong. Not according to this page, you can’t even conduct yourself properly when given a chance to confront a Christian. You waste your time insulting his writing. LOL Really?
Like most over educated people they stick of a single minor point and beat it to death regardless if it’s on topic or not.
You will never see how ineffective and predictable you are and therefore never make a difference in the world. I think the answer is clear, unless you call your conduct here good,(and sadly you might) NO you CAN’T be good without GOD!

“So as much as I’d like to counter some of your accusations with items straight from the Bible, I can tell by your previous posts that you will not be open to such conversations.”

That would be refreshing Barbara but I don’t think you know enough of the word of God to ever carry on an “intelligent” conversation. If you did you would of. You are afraid so you wrap yourself in your delusions and sit there criticizing anyone that is actually doing something. Barbra you are completely out of touch with reality, get some help. You will never find happiness until you come to terms with whatever it is that is holding you back.

“it would prove more gracious of you to allow your intellect to be shown through your ability to listen to others perspectives”

Always the need to be heard, what makes you think that your opinion is worth being heard, get over yourself. You are not that important that you need to be heard. If you have something intelligent to say people will listen but your ranting and attacking is unproductive to say the least. I don’t think anyone has to listen to me but you keep coming back, like a dog with a bone you just can’t let it go. Again get over yourself, you might just find your life more tolerable. Your father should of told you if can’t say something nice then don’t say anything at all.
LOL “being good without God” too funny people, you are your own worst enemy no one needs to stop your campaign, because no one will ever listen to you.

Diakonos

]]> By: Barbara http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310071 Barbara Sun, 17 May 2009 01:37:26 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310071 When a person feels it necessary to announce their IQ, they are leaving themselves open to critique. And when they don't listen to reason, when it’s impossible to have an honest discourse with them, when they constantly put down those with education, then one can easily become irritated with them. I am pretty sure that if you were to actually have a conversation with an atheist, you would find that a good many of us are quite familiar with the Bible, oftentimes, more familiar than those who profess to be Christians. Many of us were Christian at one time, myself included. So as much as I’d like to counter some of your accusations with items straight from the Bible, I can tell by your previous posts that you will not be open to such conversations. Maybe, rather than spout off about your high IQ right off the bat, it would prove more gracious of you to allow your intellect to be shown through your ability to listen to others perspectives. Like my father used to always say, better to remain silent and let others think you’re an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. -Barbara When a person feels it necessary to announce their IQ, they are leaving themselves open to critique. And when they don’t listen to reason, when it’s impossible to have an honest discourse with them, when they constantly put down those with education, then one can easily become irritated with them.

I am pretty sure that if you were to actually have a conversation with an atheist, you would find that a good many of us are quite familiar with the Bible, oftentimes, more familiar than those who profess to be Christians. Many of us were Christian at one time, myself included. So as much as I’d like to counter some of your accusations with items straight from the Bible, I can tell by your previous posts that you will not be open to such conversations.

Maybe, rather than spout off about your high IQ right off the bat, it would prove more gracious of you to allow your intellect to be shown through your ability to listen to others perspectives. Like my father used to always say, better to remain silent and let others think you’re an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

-Barbara

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310029 Diakonos Sat, 16 May 2009 23:22:06 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310029 I should also say going over the last 2 posts I count 8 grammar and at least 17 punctuation mistakes, show me your maturity and highlight them for me. Due instead of do, come on you have to find that funny. LOL Diakonos I should also say going over the last 2 posts I count 8 grammar and at least 17 punctuation mistakes, show me your maturity and highlight them for me.

Due instead of do, come on you have to find that funny. LOL

Diakonos

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310020 Diakonos Sat, 16 May 2009 22:56:14 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310020 I would like to say that Richard gains a little more respect in my eyes for overlooking the obvious grammar mistakes, they weren't hard to find. I really expected him to take the low road but he didn't. For what little it's worth Richard took the high road coming from the real world I respect that much Diakonos I would like to say that Richard gains a little more respect in my eyes for overlooking the obvious grammar mistakes, they weren’t hard to find. I really expected him to take the low road but he didn’t. For what little it’s worth Richard took the high road coming from the real world I respect that much

Diakonos

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-310019 Diakonos Sat, 16 May 2009 22:47:00 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-310019 Very good, do you feel better, I may ignore my grammar but your anger and pettiness seems to be well thought out. I hope that you are not a mature adult that represents the atheist movement, if you are then Christians have nothing to fear you will fade into history as a funny side note. My grammar is unimportant to me and exposes the intellectual bullies. At least the bullies that picked on you in grade school grew up, you carry your hatred or fear with you the rest of you life again proving my point. Showing that the atheists can only attack on a level of grammar shows the weak position that you hold. You may be book smart but real world skills are badly lacking. I never went to university, by the time of exiting high school I was already well aware of the worship of intellectuality and wanted nothing to due with it. I did go to trade school and completed a 3 year course of industrial electronics which involved mathematics not grammar. Real world skills. In the real world grammar takes a back seat in talking to people and after 53 years I have certainly let it slide. Grammar is only important in the intellectual circles where those involved have nothing else in their lives except hate and a self expressed intellectual superiority. I have always found intellectual bullies funny, for all they stand for they commit the same crimes against their brother as the physical bullies, but hide behind superiority and pacifism. An attack is an attack. You could derive a inferiority complex, or maybe you should consider a complete disdain for the worship that you obviously take part in. However thank you for responding and I am actually surprised that it took this long for you to come forward. Grammar police generally respond quickly. Your response however does nothing for you cause, maybe even makes people think less of you. I know I do. Diakonos Very good, do you feel better, I may ignore my grammar but your anger and pettiness seems to be well thought out. I hope that you are not a mature adult that represents the atheist movement, if you are then Christians have nothing to fear you will fade into history as a funny side note.
My grammar is unimportant to me and exposes the intellectual bullies. At least the bullies that picked on you in grade school grew up, you carry your hatred or fear with you the rest of you life again proving my point. Showing that the atheists can only attack on a level of grammar shows the weak position that you hold. You may be book smart but real world skills are badly lacking.
I never went to university, by the time of exiting high school I was already well aware of the worship of intellectuality and wanted nothing to due with it. I did go to trade school and completed a 3 year course of industrial electronics which involved mathematics not grammar. Real world skills. In the real world grammar takes a back seat in talking to people and after 53 years I have certainly let it slide. Grammar is only important in the intellectual circles where those involved have nothing else in their lives except hate and a self expressed intellectual superiority. I have always found intellectual bullies funny, for all they stand for they commit the same crimes against their brother as the physical bullies, but hide behind superiority and pacifism. An attack is an attack. You could derive a inferiority complex, or maybe you should consider a complete disdain for the worship that you obviously take part in.
However thank you for responding and I am actually surprised that it took this long for you to come forward. Grammar police generally respond quickly. Your response however does nothing for you cause, maybe even makes people think less of you. I know I do.

Diakonos

]]> By: Barbara http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-309926 Barbara Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:10 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-309926 While you're at it, Diakonos, why don't you go back through all of your inane diatribes and correct ALL your typos. For such a high IQ, I can't believe you would use "your", when you should have used "you're". And there are MANY other "typos" in your writing. I say "typos", because that indicates a simple mistake - a finger hit a key it shouldn't have. Some of your "typos", however, indicate ignorance. It's as if, for having such a high IQ, you lack the education needed to be mechanically correct in your writing. Hmmmm......one might start to think that you have some sort of inferiority complex due to YOUR lack of education, which prompts you to put down those who ARE educated (or "over educated", as you like to say). Which online IQ test did you take, anyway? The one that rewards a high score by saying, "Your smarter than most!"? Did you print and frame the little certificate to prove your intellectual superiority? Pssst - your lack of reasoning skills, along with your so-so writing skills, is giving away your dirty little secret. Sorry fellow atheists, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I had to say something a little mean. True, but mean. -Barbara While you’re at it, Diakonos, why don’t you go back through all of your inane diatribes and correct ALL your typos. For such a high IQ, I can’t believe you would use “your”, when you should have used “you’re”. And there are MANY other “typos” in your writing. I say “typos”, because that indicates a simple mistake – a finger hit a key it shouldn’t have. Some of your “typos”, however, indicate ignorance. It’s as if, for having such a high IQ, you lack the education needed to be mechanically correct in your writing. Hmmmm……one might start to think that you have some sort of inferiority complex due to YOUR lack of education, which prompts you to put down those who ARE educated (or “over educated”, as you like to say). Which online IQ test did you take, anyway? The one that rewards a high score by saying, “Your smarter than most!”? Did you print and frame the little certificate to prove your intellectual superiority? Pssst – your lack of reasoning skills, along with your so-so writing skills, is giving away your dirty little secret. Sorry fellow atheists, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I had to say something a little mean. True, but mean.

-Barbara

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-309884 Diakonos Sat, 16 May 2009 14:25:50 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-309884 Better correct my typo "(atheist)" Better correct my typo “(atheist)”

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-309883 Diakonos Sat, 16 May 2009 14:24:41 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-309883 No more comments? Good, now lets see what we have learned. "Being good without God", is a slogan atheists are using to attack Christians. Lets look at how loving and good you are. Richard Wade "Your comment is a meandering tirade" Refuse to address most of what I wrote and only criticized my writing. Condescending, arrogant, and uniformed. "To help you do that" Now Richard wants to be helpful. LOL, again in a condescending, controlling and arrogant way. "Diakonos, I’m glad that your IQ is 147. However, a high IQ does not necessarily mean that a person is organized in his thinking. Try to organize your thoughts into clear, focused statements," More critical analysis from a over educated know it all, designed to control the conversation. "I have not criticized anything about you" Now lying and denying what he just wrote. "I have not made “angry and hateful” criticisms" More denial. "includes mind reading" A psychologists attempt at labeling in order to pigeon hole and belittle, in order to demoralize and bring the individual into submission. Then he ends with a patronizing tirade too long to quote, that is full of underlying anger and hatred. Both of which are covering the fear and hatred within Richard. matt "I can’t believe my comment got deleted. You have ignorant chumps writing on this blog, then I get deleted for voicing my opinion. I wasn’t even offensive. Get some balls." Hidden, or maybe not so hidden anger and aggression stemming from fear? The post that was deleted was probably more telling of the individual. seathanaich "What a pathetically laughable reversal of reality" Criticism in a mocking tone designed to lower the individual. Typical attempt at a bullying tactic. "making retarded claims like this one are ignorant or dishonest, though religious belief does require both (plus delusion)" More labeling and indirect name calling "And don’t capitalize “atheist”, it’s not a proper noun." More Criticism, and to set the record straight, the word atheist is both a common noun and proper noun depending how it is used. An admittedly small example of the "Good" the atheists show. Good people are not: Critical aggressive arrogant condescending intellectual bullies They do not: spout off before they think bully attack demoralize bring others into submission raise themselves to a delusional level The list goes on, by the way the guidelines are in the bible if you care to read them. Probably not, none the less your slogan..... hmmmm. Maybe you should rethink that since you (athesists) don't seem to pull it off. Diakonos No more comments? Good, now lets see what we have learned.

“Being good without God”, is a slogan atheists are using to attack Christians. Lets look at how loving and good you are.

Richard Wade

“Your comment is a meandering tirade”

Refuse to address most of what I wrote and only criticized my writing. Condescending, arrogant, and uniformed.

“To help you do that”

Now Richard wants to be helpful. LOL, again in a condescending, controlling and arrogant way.

“Diakonos, I’m glad that your IQ is 147. However, a high IQ does not necessarily mean that a person is organized in his thinking. Try to organize your thoughts into clear, focused statements,”

More critical analysis from a over educated know it all, designed to control the conversation.

“I have not criticized anything about you”

Now lying and denying what he just wrote.

“I have not made “angry and hateful” criticisms”

More denial.

“includes mind reading”

A psychologists attempt at labeling in order to pigeon hole and belittle, in order to demoralize and bring the individual into submission.

Then he ends with a patronizing tirade too long to quote, that is full of underlying anger and hatred. Both of which are covering the fear and hatred within Richard.

matt

“I can’t believe my comment got deleted. You have ignorant chumps writing on this blog, then I get deleted for voicing my opinion. I wasn’t even offensive. Get some balls.”

Hidden, or maybe not so hidden anger and aggression stemming from fear? The post that was deleted was probably more telling of the individual.

seathanaich

“What a pathetically laughable reversal of reality”

Criticism in a mocking tone designed to lower the individual. Typical attempt at a bullying tactic.

“making retarded claims like this one are ignorant or dishonest, though religious belief does require both (plus delusion)”

More labeling and indirect name calling

“And don’t capitalize “atheist”, it’s not a proper noun.”

More Criticism, and to set the record straight, the word atheist is both a common noun and proper noun depending how it is used.

An admittedly small example of the “Good” the atheists show.

Good people are not:

Critical
aggressive
arrogant
condescending
intellectual bullies

They do not:

spout off before they think
bully
attack
demoralize
bring others into submission
raise themselves to a delusional level

The list goes on, by the way the guidelines are in the bible if you care to read them. Probably not, none the less your slogan….. hmmmm. Maybe you should rethink that since you (athesists) don’t seem to pull it off.

Diakonos

]]> By: Diakonos http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/05/indiana-bus-company-rejects-atheist-ad/#comment-309324 Diakonos Thu, 14 May 2009 21:11:07 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=11267#comment-309324 The link didn't show up here it is http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Understand_the_Times/archives.asp Diakonos The link didn’t show up here it is

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Understand_the_Times/archives.asp

Diakonos

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