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		<title>By: Noboru Wataya (the cat)</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/31/god-sent-the-shooter/#comment-319235</link>
		<dc:creator>Noboru Wataya (the cat)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chelle, it doesn&#039;t sound like it&#039;s worth it to you to be on this site in the first place, so leave llwelly alone. 
Anyway, Phelps and his cronies say very bizarre things: &quot;evil little horns&quot;, &quot;bloody beast Obama&quot;? Are they sure they don&#039;t mean Sexy Beast Obama? Is this translated from a foreign language or something? As long as their announcements sound like this, no one even close to the mainstream is going to take them seriously. It&#039;s like the written equivalent of those ridiculous pointy Klan hoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chelle, it doesn&#8217;t sound like it&#8217;s worth it to you to be on this site in the first place, so leave llwelly alone.<br />
Anyway, Phelps and his cronies say very bizarre things: &#8220;evil little horns&#8221;, &#8220;bloody beast Obama&#8221;? Are they sure they don&#8217;t mean Sexy Beast Obama? Is this translated from a foreign language or something? As long as their announcements sound like this, no one even close to the mainstream is going to take them seriously. It&#8217;s like the written equivalent of those ridiculous pointy Klan hoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Chelle</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/31/god-sent-the-shooter/#comment-315841</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this amusing site by searching for the words Phelps and Tiller, sure that I would find out if the despicable Phelps would be trying to picket the funeral of that doctor. I was hoping they wouldn&#039;t out of decency to the family (but we know that Phelps is not one for decency). I was actually starting to see some warmth and sensibility out of people whose worldviews are obviously diametrically opposed to my own, because I do believe in a sovereign G-d.

Then I see llwelly&#039;s post.

So, llewelly, in your little world, the person that helped my mother decide to have me after all and cancel her abortion is on par with, say, a child molester or murderer. Despicable, you say. Wow.

Glad that my mother listened to reason and chose life, but I guess I&#039;m just one of those throwaway Christians, who, worse yet, now chooses to live in the (egads!) rural South. Double jeopardy. Time for all of you to start practicing the eugenics that you are hinting at. Show your true faces. You don&#039;t just hate the God you supposedly don&#039;t believe in, you hate your fellow humans as well, don&#039;t you?

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llewelly Says:


Finally - there are few sorts of human more despicable than those who want children to grow up with a parent or parents who cannot afford them, or do not want them. And that’s a primary result of those who oppose choice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this amusing site by searching for the words Phelps and Tiller, sure that I would find out if the despicable Phelps would be trying to picket the funeral of that doctor. I was hoping they wouldn&#8217;t out of decency to the family (but we know that Phelps is not one for decency). I was actually starting to see some warmth and sensibility out of people whose worldviews are obviously diametrically opposed to my own, because I do believe in a sovereign G-d.</p>
<p>Then I see llwelly&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>So, llewelly, in your little world, the person that helped my mother decide to have me after all and cancel her abortion is on par with, say, a child molester or murderer. Despicable, you say. Wow.</p>
<p>Glad that my mother listened to reason and chose life, but I guess I&#8217;m just one of those throwaway Christians, who, worse yet, now chooses to live in the (egads!) rural South. Double jeopardy. Time for all of you to start practicing the eugenics that you are hinting at. Show your true faces. You don&#8217;t just hate the God you supposedly don&#8217;t believe in, you hate your fellow humans as well, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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llewelly Says:</p>
<p>Finally &#8211; there are few sorts of human more despicable than those who want children to grow up with a parent or parents who cannot afford them, or do not want them. And that’s a primary result of those who oppose choice.
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/31/god-sent-the-shooter/#comment-315242</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U.S. BISHOPS EXPRESS ‘PROFOUND REGRET&#039; ABOUT SHOOTING DEATH OF ABORTION DOCTOR 

WASHINGTON -- Speaking on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the bishops&#039; Committee on Pro-Life Activities, expressed profound regret upon learning of the shooting death of abortion doctor George Tiller.
           
&quot;Our bishops&#039; conference and all its members have repeatedly and publicly denounced all forms of violence in our society, including abortion as well as the misguided resort to violence by anyone opposed to abortion,&quot; Cardinal Rigali said. &quot;Such killing is the opposite of everything we stand for, and everything we want our culture to stand for: respect for the life of each and every human being from its beginning to its natural end. We pray for Dr. Tiller and his family.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U.S. BISHOPS EXPRESS ‘PROFOUND REGRET&#8217; ABOUT SHOOTING DEATH OF ABORTION DOCTOR </p>
<p>WASHINGTON &#8212; Speaking on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the bishops&#8217; Committee on Pro-Life Activities, expressed profound regret upon learning of the shooting death of abortion doctor George Tiller.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our bishops&#8217; conference and all its members have repeatedly and publicly denounced all forms of violence in our society, including abortion as well as the misguided resort to violence by anyone opposed to abortion,&#8221; Cardinal Rigali said. &#8220;Such killing is the opposite of everything we stand for, and everything we want our culture to stand for: respect for the life of each and every human being from its beginning to its natural end. We pray for Dr. Tiller and his family.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/05/31/god-sent-the-shooter/#comment-315241</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You devalue your website and your words when you post quotes from uneducated, misguided people such as Fred Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church

Associated Press - 5/31/2009 2:05:00 PM

 ...&quot;The pro-life group Operation Rescue issued a statement denouncing the shooting. &quot;We are shocked at this morning&#039;s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,&quot; said Troy Newman, Operation Rescue&#039;s president. &quot;Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller&#039;s family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You devalue your website and your words when you post quotes from uneducated, misguided people such as Fred Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church</p>
<p>Associated Press &#8211; 5/31/2009 2:05:00 PM</p>
<p> &#8230;&#8221;The pro-life group Operation Rescue issued a statement denouncing the shooting. &#8220;We are shocked at this morning&#8217;s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,&#8221; said Troy Newman, Operation Rescue&#8217;s president. &#8220;Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning. We pray for Mr. Tiller&#8217;s family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Luther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not believe in or support a god who would produce Fred Phelps.  How can any sane person?

That would be more than enough for me.  Of course I don&#039;t believe in god(s) because there is no shred of evidence for any of these ridiculous, wasteful, and dangerous myths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not believe in or support a god who would produce Fred Phelps.  How can any sane person?</p>
<p>That would be more than enough for me.  Of course I don&#8217;t believe in god(s) because there is no shred of evidence for any of these ridiculous, wasteful, and dangerous myths.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t lying a sin?  Surely Phelps knows 65,000 has to be a wildly inflated number.  Tiller has been practicing medicine for 40 years.  If he&#039;d done abortions that entire time, he would have had to do 4.5 abortions every single day of every week of every year for 40 years.  Seems rather unlikely to me.  

With as much hate as people like Fred Phelps carry around with them, why don&#039;t their hearts just seize up?  These hatemongers seem to outlive their expectancy too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t lying a sin?  Surely Phelps knows 65,000 has to be a wildly inflated number.  Tiller has been practicing medicine for 40 years.  If he&#8217;d done abortions that entire time, he would have had to do 4.5 abortions every single day of every week of every year for 40 years.  Seems rather unlikely to me.  </p>
<p>With as much hate as people like Fred Phelps carry around with them, why don&#8217;t their hearts just seize up?  These hatemongers seem to outlive their expectancy too often.</p>
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		<title>By: Cypress Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cypress Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night I told my husband about the murder.  He was so disgusted by online comments supporting the shooter on Cleveland.com that he registered and posted.  He never posts stuff.  He&#039;s still angry this morning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I told my husband about the murder.  He was so disgusted by online comments supporting the shooter on Cleveland.com that he registered and posted.  He never posts stuff.  He&#8217;s still angry this morning!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Goodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Via http://donklephant.com/2009/05/31/tiller-murder-suspect-is-scott-roeder-connected-with-operation-rescue/

Here’s the comment he left at Operation Rescue’s site, via Free Republic:

    Scott Roeder Says:
    May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
    Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.

    Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.

Also from Free Republic, looks like he has a criminal record:

    July 7, Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer.

...

So he had a criminal record involving PLANNED TERRORIST ACTIVITY and was sentenced to less than a year and a half?!?!?  People for whom we have no evidence have served far longer in Gitmo...ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via <a href="http://donklephant.com/2009/05/31/tiller-murder-suspect-is-scott-roeder-connected-with-operation-rescue/" rel="nofollow">http://donklephant.com/2009/05/31/tiller-murder-suspect-is-scott-roeder-connected-with-operation-rescue/</a></p>
<p>Here’s the comment he left at Operation Rescue’s site, via Free Republic:</p>
<p>    Scott Roeder Says:<br />
    May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm<br />
    Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.</p>
<p>    Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.</p>
<p>Also from Free Republic, looks like he has a criminal record:</p>
<p>    July 7, Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>So he had a criminal record involving PLANNED TERRORIST ACTIVITY and was sentenced to less than a year and a half?!?!?  People for whom we have no evidence have served far longer in Gitmo&#8230;ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald Selkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reginald Selkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;GOD SENT THE SHOOTER!&quot;

Sure thing, Phelpsie. But God also sent George Tiller in the first place. When you&#039;re the omnipotent, omniscient super-being in charge, it&#039;s hard to shuffle off the blame onto subordinates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GOD SENT THE SHOOTER!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure thing, Phelpsie. But God also sent George Tiller in the first place. When you&#8217;re the omnipotent, omniscient super-being in charge, it&#8217;s hard to shuffle off the blame onto subordinates.</p>
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		<title>By: Beetle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Frik,

As a pro-life atheist, you have an interesting perspective.  Might you explain something to me I just can&#039;t quite comprehend?  I have never gotten a coherent response from a pro-lifer to this question, and I would really like to understand.  I suspect you might be able to be a little more rational.

The USA tried having abortion illegal, and it was quite awful.  An unmitigated disaster.  A human tragedy.  Really, really bad.  How would making abortion illegal (again) not just be a repeat of past mistakes?  Are we to make abortion illegal but, somehow different this time around?  If so, how?  If not, why work towards an end that is doomed to be worse than the status quo?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frik,</p>
<p>As a pro-life atheist, you have an interesting perspective.  Might you explain something to me I just can&#8217;t quite comprehend?  I have never gotten a coherent response from a pro-lifer to this question, and I would really like to understand.  I suspect you might be able to be a little more rational.</p>
<p>The USA tried having abortion illegal, and it was quite awful.  An unmitigated disaster.  A human tragedy.  Really, really bad.  How would making abortion illegal (again) not just be a repeat of past mistakes?  Are we to make abortion illegal but, somehow different this time around?  If so, how?  If not, why work towards an end that is doomed to be worse than the status quo?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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