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	<title>Comments on: Beware the Militant Atheists</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Xtrchessreal</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/06/05/beware-the-militant-atheists/#comment-707139</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtrchessreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 05:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel for you Malay.  I feel for many of us that are in this closet.  If we are not careful we will be herded into ghettos or perhaps killed in a new form of genocide or atheiocide. How long can we sit and watch?  Isn&#039;t that a mistake the Jews made early in the 20th century?  First our balls are cut with this slanderous, demeaning, targeted vicious talk against the militant atheist.  Then once we are all but a voice that is barely heard it will be time to round us up and dispose of us completely.  It&#039;s time to begin a new form of atheism isn&#039;t it?  Perhaps atheism needs some ammo maybe we need a military defense?  Talk will not be enough against multi billion dollar corporate religions.  I am afraid.  But, I&#039;m not stupid.  I can learn from history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel for you Malay.  I feel for many of us that are in this closet.  If we are not careful we will be herded into ghettos or perhaps killed in a new form of genocide or atheiocide. How long can we sit and watch?  Isn&#8217;t that a mistake the Jews made early in the 20th century?  First our balls are cut with this slanderous, demeaning, targeted vicious talk against the militant atheist.  Then once we are all but a voice that is barely heard it will be time to round us up and dispose of us completely.  It&#8217;s time to begin a new form of atheism isn&#8217;t it?  Perhaps atheism needs some ammo maybe we need a military defense?  Talk will not be enough against multi billion dollar corporate religions.  I am afraid.  But, I&#8217;m not stupid.  I can learn from history.</p>
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		<title>By: Malay Atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/06/05/beware-the-militant-atheists/#comment-701718</link>
		<dc:creator>Malay Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 03:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a Christian or a Muslim professes their faith out loud, they&#039;re just being proud of their religion and it&#039;s ok; if an atheist states his or her position out loud, even in response to the question &quot;So what&#039;s your religion?&quot;, they&#039;re simply being obnoxious and &quot;anti-religious&quot;. 

I&#039;m sick of taking a passive position. I&#039;m sick of limp-wristed atheists who regurgitate tiresome maxims like &quot;you can&#039;t prove a negative, nor disprove a non-falsifiable claim&quot;. Some of us live in hyper-religious Muslim societies where atheism is automatically seen as an active denial of god&#039;s existence instead of simply being a LACK OF BELIEF in the existence of any gods.

Even &quot;moderate&quot; Muslims who don&#039;t actively call for the death sentence for apostates at the very least support it tacitly on grounds that it counts as treason against the supra-state that is Islam.

It&#039;s easier for atheists living in more liberal and secular countries, but for atheists like me, militancy is more a matter of reactive self-defence rather than aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a Christian or a Muslim professes their faith out loud, they&#8217;re just being proud of their religion and it&#8217;s ok; if an atheist states his or her position out loud, even in response to the question &#8220;So what&#8217;s your religion?&#8221;, they&#8217;re simply being obnoxious and &#8220;anti-religious&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of taking a passive position. I&#8217;m sick of limp-wristed atheists who regurgitate tiresome maxims like &#8220;you can&#8217;t prove a negative, nor disprove a non-falsifiable claim&#8221;. Some of us live in hyper-religious Muslim societies where atheism is automatically seen as an active denial of god&#8217;s existence instead of simply being a LACK OF BELIEF in the existence of any gods.</p>
<p>Even &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslims who don&#8217;t actively call for the death sentence for apostates at the very least support it tacitly on grounds that it counts as treason against the supra-state that is Islam.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier for atheists living in more liberal and secular countries, but for atheists like me, militancy is more a matter of reactive self-defence rather than aggression.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/06/05/beware-the-militant-atheists/#comment-643738</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show me a comic strip that says militant atheism is a joke, and I&#039;ll show you the regimes of Stalin and Mao.

Heck, Hitler&#039;s government was essentially a perversion of the principles of Darwinian evolution. &quot;Preservation of the favored races&quot;, and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me a comic strip that says militant atheism is a joke, and I&#8217;ll show you the regimes of Stalin and Mao.</p>
<p>Heck, Hitler&#8217;s government was essentially a perversion of the principles of Darwinian evolution. &#8220;Preservation of the favored races&#8221;, and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: DTanza</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The militant atheist is obviously planning the drink his coffee and go on a hate filled rant at anybody he sees stepping within 50 feet of a cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The militant atheist is obviously planning the drink his coffee and go on a hate filled rant at anybody he sees stepping within 50 feet of a cross.</p>
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		<title>By: Lancelot</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/06/05/beware-the-militant-atheists/#comment-427896</link>
		<dc:creator>Lancelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Plato knew the dangers of militant atheism.  Take a look at Columbine and that creep that killed Amish girls.  In the last century over 120 million people died because of militant atheist ideas.  No one still learned from that.  

The greatest Christian invention = the printing press

The greatest atheist invention = the atom bomb.  

And as for the nihilist Hitler...Remember how deeply he was a student of Freidrich Nietzche; a militant atheist.  Hitler also thought Christianity should have been stamped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even Plato knew the dangers of militant atheism.  Take a look at Columbine and that creep that killed Amish girls.  In the last century over 120 million people died because of militant atheist ideas.  No one still learned from that.  </p>
<p>The greatest Christian invention = the printing press</p>
<p>The greatest atheist invention = the atom bomb.  </p>
<p>And as for the nihilist Hitler&#8230;Remember how deeply he was a student of Freidrich Nietzche; a militant atheist.  Hitler also thought Christianity should have been stamped out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Pogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &lt;strong&gt;Francis&lt;/strong&gt;

Hitler was &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; a Lutheran, not even by culture.  Catholicism was strong in Germany during Hitler&#039;s reign.  He was a professed Roman Catholic....till his death.

You would be surprised how easy it is to find that out using some type of search engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ <strong>Francis</strong></p>
<p>Hitler was <strong>not</strong> a Lutheran, not even by culture.  Catholicism was strong in Germany during Hitler&#8217;s reign.  He was a professed Roman Catholic&#8230;.till his death.</p>
<p>You would be surprised how easy it is to find that out using some type of search engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stalin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stalin</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe anybody us still pushing the nonsensical claim that only the bad guys like Stalin are atheists.

Marx and Hitler were both products of a Protestant Lutheran culture. 

The Communism of the Soviet Union was a religion that just substituted one mysticism for another - replacing &quot;God&quot; with &quot;historical determinism.&quot; Antagonism towards Christianity was hostility to a rival religion. Like Russian Orthodox Christianity, Soviet Communism&#039;s first requirement was belief in it and its foremost ethical demand was obedience.

As for Hitler, he was a Roman Catholic who never repudiated his faith. The Nazis proudly displayed Martin Luther&#039;s books at their Nuremberg rallies.

The worst Holocaust in history was when Christians massacred Christians, and while the Nazi attempt didn&#039;t even come close to eradicating Judaism, the Albigensian Crusade exterminated forever and totally the Cathar culture.

Christians are the last people in the world qualified to lecture others for murderous social behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe anybody us still pushing the nonsensical claim that only the bad guys like Stalin are atheists.</p>
<p>Marx and Hitler were both products of a Protestant Lutheran culture. </p>
<p>The Communism of the Soviet Union was a religion that just substituted one mysticism for another &#8211; replacing &#8220;God&#8221; with &#8220;historical determinism.&#8221; Antagonism towards Christianity was hostility to a rival religion. Like Russian Orthodox Christianity, Soviet Communism&#8217;s first requirement was belief in it and its foremost ethical demand was obedience.</p>
<p>As for Hitler, he was a Roman Catholic who never repudiated his faith. The Nazis proudly displayed Martin Luther&#8217;s books at their Nuremberg rallies.</p>
<p>The worst Holocaust in history was when Christians massacred Christians, and while the Nazi attempt didn&#8217;t even come close to eradicating Judaism, the Albigensian Crusade exterminated forever and totally the Cathar culture.</p>
<p>Christians are the last people in the world qualified to lecture others for murderous social behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Ancalagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ancalagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TDD: You sound like someone who has not even the remotest familiarity with &quot;ethics&quot;.

If you knew anything about it then you would not be skeptical about the ability of atheists to make principled moral judgements.

And let me ask you: How do &lt;B&gt;you&lt;/B&gt; propose to justify following any one of the multitude of possible &#039;scriptures&#039;, and having chosen, how will you justify which chapters of that self-contradictory nonsense to throw out?

As for Peter Singer: Firstly, by mentioning him you actually refute your own rhetorical point, because despite being an atheist, his moral judgements *have* been derived in a principled manner after all.

Secondly, it&#039;s idiotic to imply that Singer&#039;s moral judgements &lt;B&gt;follow&lt;/B&gt; from his atheism. No moral consequences whatsoever can be inferred from God&#039;s non-existence. Hence, whatever morality an atheist subscribes to will have arrived at totally independently of their being an atheist. Look at someone like Thomas Nagel - also an atheist - whose views are completely different from Singer&#039;s (and more concordant with everyday intuition).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TDD: You sound like someone who has not even the remotest familiarity with &#8220;ethics&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you knew anything about it then you would not be skeptical about the ability of atheists to make principled moral judgements.</p>
<p>And let me ask you: How do <b>you</b> propose to justify following any one of the multitude of possible &#8216;scriptures&#8217;, and having chosen, how will you justify which chapters of that self-contradictory nonsense to throw out?</p>
<p>As for Peter Singer: Firstly, by mentioning him you actually refute your own rhetorical point, because despite being an atheist, his moral judgements *have* been derived in a principled manner after all.</p>
<p>Secondly, it&#8217;s idiotic to imply that Singer&#8217;s moral judgements <b>follow</b> from his atheism. No moral consequences whatsoever can be inferred from God&#8217;s non-existence. Hence, whatever morality an atheist subscribes to will have arrived at totally independently of their being an atheist. Look at someone like Thomas Nagel &#8211; also an atheist &#8211; whose views are completely different from Singer&#8217;s (and more concordant with everyday intuition).</p>
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		<title>By: sirukin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirukin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll further Bob&#039;s rebuttal of TDD, we could characterize Adolf Hitler as very favorable if not adopting the Christian faith but that would be unfair. Notice that what&#039;s being identified here are anonymous and wide spread groups of fringe factions within major denominations.
Being an athiest, I&#039;d characterize the militant atheist as someone like richard dawkins who can&#039;t seem to shut up about it. Honestly, to all you other atheists, why can&#039;t we just leave the argument? Taking away the legitimacy of it in the first place would be a vital step in sending these groups the way of the dinosaur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll further Bob&#8217;s rebuttal of TDD, we could characterize Adolf Hitler as very favorable if not adopting the Christian faith but that would be unfair. Notice that what&#8217;s being identified here are anonymous and wide spread groups of fringe factions within major denominations.<br />
Being an athiest, I&#8217;d characterize the militant atheist as someone like richard dawkins who can&#8217;t seem to shut up about it. Honestly, to all you other atheists, why can&#8217;t we just leave the argument? Taking away the legitimacy of it in the first place would be a vital step in sending these groups the way of the dinosaur.</p>
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