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	<title>Comments on: The Empty Red Envelope Conspiracy Theory</title>
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	<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/</link>
	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Abortion Support</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-392882</link>
		<dc:creator>Abortion Support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is totally crazy.</description>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-329687</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think that we should call them anti-abortioners, not pro-lifers. Pro-life seems as if they are superior to the contrary.&quot;

Actually, most people who are pro-choice tend to refer to them as anti-choice, because in most cases they want to eliminate a woman&#039;s right to choose at all. As can be seen by the Democrats for Life group recently ousting a pro-contraceptive member, they literally do wish to eliminate all choices aside from giving birth. They care about the fetus, sure, but they care more about it than they do the woman&#039;s right to choose any other option for herself. 

On a blog I read, they run a &quot;top troll&quot; competition, and one of the fundies who trolled said something like &quot;doing anything to not get pregnant is like shaking your fist and god and cursing him for his blessings&quot; or some shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think that we should call them anti-abortioners, not pro-lifers. Pro-life seems as if they are superior to the contrary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, most people who are pro-choice tend to refer to them as anti-choice, because in most cases they want to eliminate a woman&#8217;s right to choose at all. As can be seen by the Democrats for Life group recently ousting a pro-contraceptive member, they literally do wish to eliminate all choices aside from giving birth. They care about the fetus, sure, but they care more about it than they do the woman&#8217;s right to choose any other option for herself. </p>
<p>On a blog I read, they run a &#8220;top troll&#8221; competition, and one of the fundies who trolled said something like &#8220;doing anything to not get pregnant is like shaking your fist and god and cursing him for his blessings&#8221; or some shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Zar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have been better if the White House had mailed them an unwanted special needs baby with severe behavioral problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been better if the White House had mailed them an unwanted special needs baby with severe behavioral problems.</p>
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		<title>By: TimothyJosephWood</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-329451</link>
		<dc:creator>TimothyJosephWood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we start a campaign to send empty white envelopes to the white house. Each one representing one masturbation and the 500 million sperm a piece dying on the battlefield that is that old t-shirt over in the corner. Their silent voices cry out for retribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we start a campaign to send empty white envelopes to the white house. Each one representing one masturbation and the 500 million sperm a piece dying on the battlefield that is that old t-shirt over in the corner. Their silent voices cry out for retribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Spook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed pretty hard about this.  Even if it&#039;s fake (which certainly sounds to be the case right now) it still amuses me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed pretty hard about this.  Even if it&#8217;s fake (which certainly sounds to be the case right now) it still amuses me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald Selkirk</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-329390</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald Selkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;iI think the funniest part of the linked blog post is where the dude [judging from arm hair] is holding open the empty envelope [which could be any envelope, fwiw], with the caption, “See? It’s really empty!”&lt;/i&gt;

Reminds me of the &quot;empty tomb&quot; argument for Jesus&#039; alleged resurrection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;iI think the funniest part of the linked blog post is where the dude [judging from arm hair] is holding open the empty envelope [which could be any envelope, fwiw], with the caption, “See? It’s really empty!”</p>
<p>Reminds me of the &#8220;empty tomb&#8221; argument for Jesus&#8217; alleged resurrection.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald Selkirk</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-329388</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald Selkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Or should I feel… mocked, perhaps?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Or should I feel… mocked, perhaps?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Karp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Karp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, could she be making up the story?  That is to say, perhaps she didn&#039;t receive an empty envelope, but thought it would reflect ill on the WH to claim that she did.

In fact, the following comment is taken from her blog:

==START OF QUOTE=====
Closet said...

    Having received an ACTUAL letter from the White House, I know that letters from the President are &#039;frank&#039;ed and would not have a stamp on it. This is a fake, and you are running a hoax.

    THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR. - Exodus 20:16

    You&#039;ve committed a Hell-worthy sin? Over politics? You&#039;d better hope I&#039;m right, or you gonna be burning with me.
    3:09 AM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, could she be making up the story?  That is to say, perhaps she didn&#8217;t receive an empty envelope, but thought it would reflect ill on the WH to claim that she did.</p>
<p>In fact, the following comment is taken from her blog:</p>
<p>==START OF QUOTE=====<br />
Closet said&#8230;</p>
<p>    Having received an ACTUAL letter from the White House, I know that letters from the President are &#8216;frank&#8217;ed and would not have a stamp on it. This is a fake, and you are running a hoax.</p>
<p>    THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR. &#8211; Exodus 20:16</p>
<p>    You&#8217;ve committed a Hell-worthy sin? Over politics? You&#8217;d better hope I&#8217;m right, or you gonna be burning with me.<br />
    3:09 AM<br />
==END OF QUOTE=====</p>
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		<title>By: hoverFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoverFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is definitely a conspiracy.  Either the postal service is responsible or manufacturers of envelopes (red and plain) is responsible.  I think there should be an investigation.  No expense should be spared.  A commission should be set up.  No-one should be excluded from investigation.  The truth must be found, it simply MUST.

I mean...good grief.  What an empty gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is definitely a conspiracy.  Either the postal service is responsible or manufacturers of envelopes (red and plain) is responsible.  I think there should be an investigation.  No expense should be spared.  A commission should be set up.  No-one should be excluded from investigation.  The truth must be found, it simply MUST.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;good grief.  What an empty gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: Closet Atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/07/14/the-empty-red-envelope-conspiracy-theory/#comment-329185</link>
		<dc:creator>Closet Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess no one remembers high school US Civics class?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franking

Official letters from the White House (and I have one) have Barack Obama&#039;s printed signature in the upper-right hand corner INSTEAD OF A STAMP. The very fact of the stamp in the usual position indicates that this is a hoax.

I guess THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR (Exodus 20:16) isn&#039;t in their Bible.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J_q8bJMTH60/SlzT3mPVszI/AAAAAAAAFM0/6-SUIy9cquo/s320/PICT0131.JPG

See the stamp?

I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess no one remembers high school US Civics class?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franking" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franking</a></p>
<p>Official letters from the White House (and I have one) have Barack Obama&#8217;s printed signature in the upper-right hand corner INSTEAD OF A STAMP. The very fact of the stamp in the usual position indicates that this is a hoax.</p>
<p>I guess THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR (Exodus 20:16) isn&#8217;t in their Bible.</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J_q8bJMTH60/SlzT3mPVszI/AAAAAAAAFM0/6-SUIy9cquo/s320/PICT0131.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J_q8bJMTH60/SlzT3mPVszI/AAAAAAAAFM0/6-SUIy9cquo/s320/PICT0131.JPG</a></p>
<p>See the stamp?</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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