Comments on: Rev. Stoltzfoos Delivers Christian Invocation in Pennsylvania Senate

By: Dan W

Dan W — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:57:25 +0000

It’s nice that Stoltzfoos is trying to be a little more inclusive of people of all religious views, but he’s still an idiot if he thinks he has a chance in any lawsuit to include specific religious figures in these invocations he makes before government bodies.

Personally, I think it’d be better if we do away with these stupid invocations/prayers before government legislatures completely. They’re just plain unnecessary.

By: satanhimself

satanhimself — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:38:43 +0000

The PA Senate refuses to allow a wiccan or an atheist to do an opening prayer (yes, an atheist CAN do a prayer, check your Merriam-Webster). So, if Stoltzfoos sues the PA House, it’s likely that another organization will sue the PA Senate. This could be a lot of fun, and the battleground is only 2 miles from my home. It could be another Dover trial, in the same courthouse, and depending on what judge is assigned, possibly the same judge.

By: Scott M.

Scott M. — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:31:32 +0000

You’ll note this dingbat Falwell uses ‘in Jesus’ name’.

http://www.atheistmedia.com/2009/07/jerry-falwellss-son-delivers-opening.html

From AP:

The Rev. Jonathan Falwell is following his father’s footsteps to Washington.

Falwell will deliver the opening prayer Wednesday for the U.S. House of Representatives.

Falwell took over as pastor of Thomas Road Baptist Church after his father, the Rev. Jerry Falwell, died in 2007.

The younger Falwell didn’t know if his father had ever delivered the opening prayer. But Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority, which he credited with getting millions of conservative voters registered, electing Ronald Reagan and giving Republicans Senate control in 1980.

Jonathan Falwell said Republican Rep. Bob Goodlatte invited him to fill the guest chaplain role and will introduce him to the body.

By: Brian Westley

Brian Westley — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:17:41 +0000

specific religious figures such as Jesus, Muhammed, Allah or Buddha

Last I heard, “Allah” was not a specific religious figure, but is as generic as “God”; that is, EVERYONE knows that “Allah” refers to the Muslim god and “God” in the US refers to the Christian god, but, technically, neither one is referring to a specific god. And I am Marie of Rumania.

By: Richard Wade

Richard Wade — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:17:21 +0000

I was pleased by his efforts to be fair, inclusive and non-exclusive, but then he said this:

“I don’t like legal fights, but I don’t want to let an opportunity pass to defend the Constitution and my faith,” he said.

What exactly does he mean by that? How has the Constitution been attacked so that it needs his case for its defense? With most clergy in cases like this, what they mean by defending their faith is in direct opposition to defending the Constitution, since they want to use government to promote their religion over other religions and those with no religion.

By: Reginald Selkirk

Reginald Selkirk — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:05:38 +0000

… But I can only pray to my God. If you believe in some other power, I invite you to address yours as I address mine.

Meaning in front of the entire Pennsylvania senate?