Illinois Family Institute: Keep Your Kids Away From the Kissing Gays!

Here in Chicago this Saturday at 1:00 p.m., near the Bean, there will be a lot of PDAs taking place. In fact, people will be kissing all over the country at that time as part of the Great Nationwide Kiss-In.

It’s in response to the gay couples who have recently been arrested for kissing their same-sex partners.

The purpose is to show that kissing is not a bad thing, so “bring your husband or wife or partner or boyfriend or girlfriend or good friend” and take a stand.

Of course, the abstinence-only crowd sees this as pure evil.

The Illinois Family Institute is instructing Illinoisans to avoid the Bean at that time.

Why? What’s wrong with kissing? IFI Director Laurie Higgins explains:

An adult kissing a pre-pubescent child or a high school-age adolescent in a sexual or romantic manner is both obscene and inappropriate despite the protestations of the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) to the contrary.

Romantic or sexual kissing between two consenting adults who are in love and who are closely related by blood is both obscene and inappropriate despite the protestations of defenders of incest to the contrary.

Romantic or sexual kissing among “multi-partner” unions, like those profiled in a recent Newsweek article, are both obscene and inappropriate despite the protests of polyamorists to the contrary.

Romantic or sexual kissing between two people of the same biological sex is both obscene and inappropriate despite the voluble, vigorous, and often vitriolic protests of homosexuals to the contrary.

So they’re not against two people kissing… they’re only against it if it involves adults and children, incestuous couples, polyamorous couples (triples?), and gay couples.

Because apparently they’re all alike…

IFI is not suggesting that homosexual kissing be banned. What we hope is that the public would recover both a proper understanding of the immorality of homosexual acts and the courage to voice that belief, so that public disapproval will be strong enough to persuade homosexuals to voluntarily restrict their kissing to private venues. Many adults do not care to witness obscene and inappropriate kissing, and their children shouldn’t have to.

Reading that makes me wish I had a gay boyfriend.

Alas.

The only thing that could make this kiss-in even better is if it took place just outside Higgins’ house.

The kiss-in is a great idea specifically because gay couples kissing in public is a bit unsettling for some to see. I know I rarely see it in public. But straight couples do it all the time and it doesn’t faze me at all.

Let them all kiss and let’s hope the event persuades gay couples not to be afraid of doing what straight couples do all the time.

Meanwhile, Higgins can do whatever she’d like to with her children. She might feel more comfortable if each kid came equipped with a blindfold. She could then tie it around them in case they dare go out in public where (*gasp*) gay people might be engaging in some harmless PDA.

  • zoo

    Many adults do not care to witness obscene and inappropriate kissing

    Indeed I do not. I define “obscene and inappropriate” rather differently though. Besides that, the kissing I see in public is nothing of the sort (maybe I’m just in the wrong places. . . or nobody wants to have involved kissing when they smell, since one is instantly sweat-soaked upon going outside here), in which case what’s the difference between a quick kiss between two girl friends and two girlfriends? And for those of cultures where men kiss everyone, why is a quick kiss between male acquaintances different from male partners?

  • http://themousesnest.blogspot.com Mouse

    Romantic or sexual kissing between two people of the same biological sex is both obscene and inappropriate…

    So then she’s OK with a trans female kissing another female? (I somehow suspect that she had “gender” in mind on this one.)

  • nani

    polyamorous kissing? more than two people involved in one kiss? i think i’d be more confused and intrigued than offended if i saw that ;p

  • http://accidental-historian.blogspot.com Geds

    Well I’ve just decided I’m going to mosey on down to the Bean on Saturday. I’m not even gay. I don’t even have anyone to kiss. It’s just, y’know, solidarity…

  • Kaye

    Reading that makes me wish I had a gay boyfriend.

    So wait, are you saying your boyfriend is straight?

  • Alan E.

    What about XXY people? Jody Foster would not be allowed in their eyes =(

  • Richard Wade

    Every time the IFI opens its mouth, Infantile Fundamentalist Idiocy comes out.

    After equating consenting adult same-sex kissing with pedophilia and incest, the Proudly Pious Laurie Higgens says this:

    What one considers obscene, inappropriate kissing depends on prior presuppositions. What the public deems inappropriate kissing depends on whether a particular kind of relationship is morally legitimate. And many consider homosexual relationships to be morally indefensible no matter how kind the people involved or how much we love them as individuals.

    And many consider homosexual relationships to be NOT morally indefensible, but perfectly legitimate. Are we in a democracy of behavioral minutiae where every single action is subject to an election by the majority? Ms. Higgins, more than 50% of the people consider your hairstyle to be fashionably indefensible. Comply with the majority immediately or face charges.

    Higgins and her ilk are obsessed with enforcing conformity to their own self-image. Fortunately, our Constitution protects us (so far) from the tyranny of the majority.

  • Bob

    It’s ‘faze’, not ‘phase’.

  • http://hoverfrog.wordpress.com hoverFrog

    So the IFI’s argument against kissing is that they don’t like it. It’s yucky and you might catch the cooties. I’m sorry but my 11 years olds can do better than that.

  • Infinite Monkey

    Reading that makes me wish I had a gay boyfriend.

    Can I take you up on that?

    IFI is not suggesting that homosexual kissing be banned. What we hope is that the public would recover both a proper understanding of the immorality of homosexual acts and the courage to voice that belief, so that public disapproval will be strong enough to persuade homosexuals to voluntarily restrict their kissing to private venues. Many adults do not care to witness obscene and inappropriate kissing, and their children shouldn’t have to.

    If gays shouldn’t kiss in public, then neither should straights. Its all a version of foreplay in public, and all that belongs in the bedroom.

    Ugh, straight people…

  • CybrgnX

    Hey there aint no such thing as polyamorus kissing it is two people kissing and others watching while waiting their turn. I know the indians always say white man have forked tongue but mine can only go down one person’s throat at a time. Well actually its too short to do even that.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    Romantic or sexual kissing among “multi-partner” unions, like those profiled in… the Bible

  • Siamang

    So they’re not against two people kissing… they’re only against it if it involves adults and children, incestuous couples, polyamorous couples (triples?), and gay couples.

    What?!?! They left out “man-on-dog?” They NEVER leave that out when they’re marching down the road of perversions that they lump in with just plain being gay, adult and consenting.

    If I lived there, I’d go around kissing a dog. But it would be a gay dog.

  • http://betapwned.com Tanya

    As a member of one of those “multi-partner unions” I have to wonder… given the previously mentioned difficulty inherent in kissing more than one individual at a time, how can the IFI be sure they’re properly identifying all instances of obscene kissing?

    If I kiss my husband in public and my boyfriend isn’t there, is that still obscene? How about if I kiss my husband, and his girlfriend is within sight, but she brought her own date?

    Considering we’re all (currently) in heterosexual configurations, how would they know we were “perverts” without stalking us? Will their children still be damaged by our kissing if we’re never positively identified as polyamorous? *ponders*

  • Valdyr

    I like how they condemn incest even between consenting adults. Leaving aside the increased likelihood of genetic defect being passed on if they reproduced… what possible other objection could there be? And what the hell does “obscene kissing” between adults and children have to do with this kissing event, anyway? I’ll give them the outside chance that there might be a gay incest couple there (not that even straight incestuous couples are even super-common), but how likely is it that we’ll suddenly see a bunch of committed pedophiles come out with their long-time romantic interests? Or is this just an echo of the long-discredited conservative/Christian attempt to make some kind of connection between homosexuality and pedophilia?

    I find the incest-bashing especially funny to hear that after seeing the Creation “Museum” exhibit about how Cain got his wife via incest, but it was okay just that one time because it had the Yahweh Seal of Approval (TM).

  • Richard Wade

    I was sitting in a park recently, watching people go by. A young man and a young woman walked by, holding hands. The young woman gave the young man a kiss.

    I thought, “Aww, that’s sweet.

    Then an elderly man and an elderly woman walked by, holding hands. The elderly man gave the elderly woman a kiss.

    I thought, “Aww, that’s sweet.”

    Then a young man and another young man walked by, holding hands. One of them gave the other a kiss.

    I thought, “Aww, that’s sweet.”

    I get to see beauty where Higgins and the rest of the bigots can only see ugliness.

    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then the same is true for ugliness.

  • Fizzy

    I’m as bothered by seeing straight couples kissing in public as I am by gay couples doing likewise, but I figure that’s my problem and not something I need to insist that others imitate. Seriously.

  • Stephan

    Ugh, straight people…

    Don’t blame this crap on us straight people, keep the blame on the crazies where it belongs! =P

    I’m surprised she didn’t throw in a paragraph about human-animal kissing.

    Well, I’ll do my part by kissing my wife who is a different race than I am…I know that offends a lot of these same people although they can’t get away with saying it anymore.

  • Stephan

    As a member of one of those “multi-partner unions” I have to wonder… given the previously mentioned difficulty inherent in kissing more than one individual at a time, how can the IFI be sure they’re properly identifying all instances of obscene kissing?

    If I kiss my husband in public and my boyfriend isn’t there, is that still obscene? How about if I kiss my husband, and his girlfriend is within sight, but she brought her own date?

    Considering we’re all (currently) in heterosexual configurations, how would they know we were “perverts” without stalking us? Will their children still be damaged by our kissing if we’re never positively identified as polyamorous?*ponders*

    This is one of the more awesome comments I’ve seen in this blog. What a huge gaping hole you have just placed in that argument. Bravo!

  • Dan W

    Oh noes, people kissing in public! Even worse, teh ghey kissing!! ZOMG!!! *gasp*
    /end sarcasm

    In all seriousness, I don’t understand this rather Puritan attitude many people have towards public displays of affection. It’s not like there’s anything wrong with it. Of course, if I see a couple kissing in public/full-blown making out every few minutes, I may be inclined to think “Get a room”, but that’s for when people go overboard with it, not for a simple kiss in public.

  • The Other Tom

    20 years ago, in Boston, I had a boyfriend who liked to take long walks with me on weekends. We’d walk from one end of Boston to the other, going through the public gardens and the public common along the way. While walking, we often held hands.

    Mothers with babies in strollers would stop, cover their baby’s eyes so baby couldn’t see us holding hands, and give us dirty looks. Little old ladies with blue hair would spit at us. Passing young men would call us “perverts” and “faggots”.

    It’s easy to freak the mundanes in this country. They’re so very, very mundane.

    Things are rather better in Boston now. Gay couples holding hands or kissing in public remain uncommon, but are no longer unheard of and go largely un-remarked-upon. But, go just an hour out of the city and life is very different. I was recently dating a guy from a medium sized town in New Hampshire, and when he visited me in Boston, he was afraid to hold hands or kiss me if he wasn’t sure nobody was around and nobody was looking. I assured him we were quite safe, but he was simply too afraid.

    The country needs to see gay guys kissing. Children need to see it. Everyone needs to confront the sight and learn to be able to say “yeah, whatever.” Otherwise, we gay guys will always be second class citizens.

  • Gabriel G.

    Damn, if only I had a boyfriend and we lived in Chicago. (Or simply, if only I lived in Chicago and had some hot gay friends who don’t mind kissing their friends.)

  • Nick

    Yeah, Mehta, I can just see you with a boyfriend walking through the park ;)

  • http://radicalatheist.com Jack Carlson

    Do these religious protesters realize that they are protesting an act of affection? They are against public expressions of love? They don’t want children seeing people in love? Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy inherent in Christian beliefs better than their own actions.

  • Scott Turner

    What happens when the children of these religious believers turn out to be gay or lesbian? What a painful moment that must be for a young man or woman born into a religious family.

    The suicide rate among gay and lesbian teens is about thirty percent higher than the national average. Intolerant families and communities have a lot to do with that.

  • Brian Murphy

    I am confused as to why some people believe that freedom of speech only exists for the people that share their opinions. The fact is (yes, fact) the majority of the people in this country still do not embrace homosexuality. That makes it a majority opinion. Yet to speak that opinion outloud is heresy. Of course, if you were to have taken a poll on how people feel about homosexuality at, say, the kiss-in at the bean, the poll would lead you to believe that 100% of people accept it as normal.
    You may now proceed with the bashing of my remarks as hate mongering.

  • http://wwww.trustreason.com nondescript

    Brian, I’m confused. I just read through the article and all the comments favoring the article. They all gave opinions about the Higgin’s opinion on whether such kissing should be allowed in public. None of them said that she didn’t have a right to hold that opinion, just that the opinion was a wrongly held opinion.

    Personally, I would fight tooth and nail to allow someone the right to espouse an opinion that I would shout from the rooftops to oppose. That’s what free speech is. The fact that we’re opposed to her opinion and think she is harming society with her pious self-righteous attempts at dampening other’s expression of happiness has nothing to do with her right to hold or express those opinions.

    Of course, her letters to the school board are more than just an expression of free speech. That was an attempt to keep Mehta from expressing his opinion. She was obviously trying to affect his employment because she didn’t like what he said in his blog.

    So, I’m opposed to her opinion about kissing and I’m opposed to her attempts to censor free speech. Though, I still support her right to hold and express those opinions, just not at the expense of others.

  • http://jerrypritikin.blogspot.com Jerry Pritikin

    I remember what gay war hero Leonard Matlovich
    has engraved on his tombstone…
    “The Military gave me a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one. It’s the 21st Century, and in “our” lifetime… and Hate is worse than war, especially when it comes from our churches… Wake up America and the world, and stop and try some love… it’s easier… and goes a long way!