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	<title>Comments on: Is the Controversy Over?</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Keith (the pastor)</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-356451</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith (the pastor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous post about my conversations with Laurie Higgins included a misstatement that Ms. Higgins rightly called me on.  She does hope (and had indicated to me prior to my post) that Hemant changes ... however, she does not believe she can cause him to change.  I indicated that she did not want him to change, and this was in error.

Also, I want to emphasize that my understanding of Ms. Higgins motives were my opinions, she never stated in our conversations that she wanted Hemant fired or frightened.  

Hemant, I&#039;m glad that no impact on your employment has come from this, and I&#039;m glad this thing is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous post about my conversations with Laurie Higgins included a misstatement that Ms. Higgins rightly called me on.  She does hope (and had indicated to me prior to my post) that Hemant changes &#8230; however, she does not believe she can cause him to change.  I indicated that she did not want him to change, and this was in error.</p>
<p>Also, I want to emphasize that my understanding of Ms. Higgins motives were my opinions, she never stated in our conversations that she wanted Hemant fired or frightened.  </p>
<p>Hemant, I&#8217;m glad that no impact on your employment has come from this, and I&#8217;m glad this thing is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-355484</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - if there&#039;s one thing a &quot;christian&quot; hates, it&#039;s assertiveness.  They expect everyone to be passive with them &quot;because they&#039;re a christian&quot;, and do as they say.

In my book, once you tell me you identify as &quot;christian&quot; is the moment you fall on deaf ears.  If I want to hear kooky stuff, I&#039;ll go home and watch cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; if there&#8217;s one thing a &#8220;christian&#8221; hates, it&#8217;s assertiveness.  They expect everyone to be passive with them &#8220;because they&#8217;re a christian&#8221;, and do as they say.</p>
<p>In my book, once you tell me you identify as &#8220;christian&#8221; is the moment you fall on deaf ears.  If I want to hear kooky stuff, I&#8217;ll go home and watch cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-355008</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope the IFI crusade is over for Hemant&#039;s sake.  Why is it that Christian crusades are always so ill-fated?  

Hemant is on-target when suggesting we call out the IFI and similar religious folks on their ridiculous ideas and behaviors.  They should not be permitted to hide behind the skirts of moderate Christians - and moderte Christians need to be continually reminded that the IFI and similar groups all fall under the umbrella of Christianity.  If moderate Christians are forced to continually distinguish themselves from the more extreme groups, then the whole irrational fabric will fray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope the IFI crusade is over for Hemant&#8217;s sake.  Why is it that Christian crusades are always so ill-fated?  </p>
<p>Hemant is on-target when suggesting we call out the IFI and similar religious folks on their ridiculous ideas and behaviors.  They should not be permitted to hide behind the skirts of moderate Christians &#8211; and moderte Christians need to be continually reminded that the IFI and similar groups all fall under the umbrella of Christianity.  If moderate Christians are forced to continually distinguish themselves from the more extreme groups, then the whole irrational fabric will fray.</p>
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		<title>By: martymankins</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351568</link>
		<dc:creator>martymankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the back and forth updates were both interesting and informative, I&#039;d be happy to hear the IFI has decided to direct it&#039;s negative ranting towards someone else.

Your professionalism was very evident to this reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the back and forth updates were both interesting and informative, I&#8217;d be happy to hear the IFI has decided to direct it&#8217;s negative ranting towards someone else.</p>
<p>Your professionalism was very evident to this reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Siamang</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351361</link>
		<dc:creator>Siamang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pastor Keith’s correspondence and comment here does not show much. If I was Laurie, I probably wouldn’t correspond with him either given the leading nature of his questions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well the questions were leading... they were leading toward understanding that Higgins&#039; motivation wasn&#039;t to change Hemant or seek understanding from Hemant.  They were to exact political revenge on Hemant for saying the things he did.

So, yes, it&#039;s plain to see to everyone here exactly where Keith&#039;s questions were leading. They were leading to the truth of what Higgins actions were motivated by.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI’s warning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh reaaallly?  So folks are having a kiss in rally, and Higgins (to use your word) &#039;attacks&#039; that... gloves still on at this point.

And then Hemant posts a blog post about her blog post, and BAM, that was just TOO much!  Gloves were totally off then.    Hemant went TOOOO far in making a blog post about HER blog post!  How DARE HE?!?!?!

And calling up Hemant&#039;s employers was, what, a de-escalation?

Wow.  Awesome thinking there, Jon.

Waitaminute.  Back in the original thread about the IFI, I posted that I would kiss a dog in front of Higgins house, if I lived in Chicago.

Are you going to call my boss now and tell them I support bestiality?   What a SCANDAL!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pastor Keith’s correspondence and comment here does not show much. If I was Laurie, I probably wouldn’t correspond with him either given the leading nature of his questions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well the questions were leading&#8230; they were leading toward understanding that Higgins&#8217; motivation wasn&#8217;t to change Hemant or seek understanding from Hemant.  They were to exact political revenge on Hemant for saying the things he did.</p>
<p>So, yes, it&#8217;s plain to see to everyone here exactly where Keith&#8217;s questions were leading. They were leading to the truth of what Higgins actions were motivated by.</p>
<blockquote><p>The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI’s warning.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh reaaallly?  So folks are having a kiss in rally, and Higgins (to use your word) &#8216;attacks&#8217; that&#8230; gloves still on at this point.</p>
<p>And then Hemant posts a blog post about her blog post, and BAM, that was just TOO much!  Gloves were totally off then.    Hemant went TOOOO far in making a blog post about HER blog post!  How DARE HE?!?!?!</p>
<p>And calling up Hemant&#8217;s employers was, what, a de-escalation?</p>
<p>Wow.  Awesome thinking there, Jon.</p>
<p>Waitaminute.  Back in the original thread about the IFI, I posted that I would kiss a dog in front of Higgins house, if I lived in Chicago.</p>
<p>Are you going to call my boss now and tell them I support bestiality?   What a SCANDAL!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MikeTheInfidel</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351318</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeTheInfidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI’s warning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Attacked? Are you serious? He told a joke, and Higgie threatened his job over it.

Get some damned perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI’s warning.</p></blockquote>
<p>Attacked? Are you serious? He told a joke, and Higgie threatened his job over it.</p>
<p>Get some damned perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is this a thinly veiled threat to Hemant?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How in the world are you getting that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is this a thinly veiled threat to Hemant?</p></blockquote>
<p>How in the world are you getting that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351253</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The gloves came off when Higgins started contacting Hemant’s employers behind his back.

She knew what she was doing, as pastor Keith’s correspondence with her shows.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI&#039;s warning.

Pastor Keith&#039;s correspondence and comment here does not show much.  If I was Laurie, I probably wouldn&#039;t correspond with him either given the leading nature of his questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The gloves came off when Higgins started contacting Hemant’s employers behind his back.</p>
<p>She knew what she was doing, as pastor Keith’s correspondence with her shows.</p></blockquote>
<p>The gloves came off when Hemant attacked the IFI&#8217;s warning.</p>
<p>Pastor Keith&#8217;s correspondence and comment here does not show much.  If I was Laurie, I probably wouldn&#8217;t correspond with him either given the leading nature of his questions.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351040</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m grateful to Laurie Higgins for leading me to this excellent blog.

As I&#039;ve said before, Laurie Higgins is such an offensive person that she actually works against herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful to Laurie Higgins for leading me to this excellent blog.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, Laurie Higgins is such an offensive person that she actually works against herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew C Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/08/26/is-the-controversy-over/#comment-351027</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew C Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am angry over this - just livid. I sent them this email.

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I&#039;ve just read what you tried to do to Hemant Mehta. Your organization is disgusting in how you went after Mehta and his job.

If you ever wanted show how tolerant your brand of Christianity is, you&#039;ve utterly failed.

You disgust me, and I am an angry because of it.

No doubt, you&#039;ll put this in your perceived persecution files as a defense of your actions, and take it as confirmation for your abuse.

No doubts there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am angry over this &#8211; just livid. I sent them this email.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just read what you tried to do to Hemant Mehta. Your organization is disgusting in how you went after Mehta and his job.</p>
<p>If you ever wanted show how tolerant your brand of Christianity is, you&#8217;ve utterly failed.</p>
<p>You disgust me, and I am an angry because of it.</p>
<p>No doubt, you&#8217;ll put this in your perceived persecution files as a defense of your actions, and take it as confirmation for your abuse.</p>
<p>No doubts there.</p>
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