When I pointed out the same could be said of them because they didn’t teach other religions, they’d stammer but I do tell my child about various religions and recite the various we must tolerate Judaism, Bhuddism, Hinduism, etc. All the PC crap.

I’d arch my eyebrows and say in depth? Do you send your child to their places of worship other than for interfaith functions. And when they’d stammer well, no, but that’s not necessary, I’d say same here. I was raised Christian and tell her what I was raised to believe.

They seemed to have some concept that I didn’t talk with my daughter about such things; perhaps, because via her friends shock at the things she could discuss with me, they weren’t so open-minded with their own kids. Of course, I didn’t bother to tell them what I tell other nonbelievers – that when I got done explaining belief (and I also often told her Jewish beliefs too since I’ve studied Judaism in depth and almost converted once; other religions I didn’t know much about, I’d honestly tell her I don’t know), she’d invariably wrinkle her brow and say but that doesn’t make any sense! What could I do to that but shrug and say this is your brain on religion?

Then I’d drive the point home (and subtley, I hope, point out their PC-ness) by asking do you teach your child about Satanism? They’d have to admit they didn’t.

They’d lay off after that and can you blame them for not wanting to broach the topic with me again? Me either.

It’s annoying as hell. I agree with Dawkins that scaring kids with hell and making them feel like a dirty sinner and not tolerating any dissent in the matter from them is a form of child abuse even when the religious parent isn’t outright physically abusive.

They’d be the first to object if they couldn’t raise their child with what they believe but they just didn’t get that I had as much right to raise my child in my world view as they did theirs.

Funny, my daughter doesn’t seem to take as much flack about my unchurched grandson. Don’t know if it’s a NY thing versus a CO thing even though NY is a lot less open-minded than it was before we moved to Denver or if he’s just too young yet for it to really start up.

As for the comic… Is it totally idiotic, or what???

“So these children, whose worldview is helping to be formed by those who teach them at the camp, are supposedly “encouraged to think for themselves”

Wow…sounds like most of us in the USA may have suffered this abuse when we attended “Sunday School”, “CCD classes”, were ‘Baptized’ and ‘Confirmed’ in the church because if we didn’t we would not be allowed to be married in the church in the future

I wonder if this statement left any decisions I had open to thinking for myself; “If you do not believe you are going to burn in hell for eternity”.

…and how’s that circumcision thing going…I think I was too young to “think” for myself, but my parents indoctrinated me into Catholicism and left a mark to show it.

I wonder…is being circumsized the “mark of the beast” so many talk about?

Also, if Islam was the majority religion here, Islam would get the majority of the criticism. With the increased exposure American Atheists and freethinkers know more about and are exposed to more Xian baloney, and so are more prepared to engage in counter apologetics against Xianity. But if a Camp Quest kid wrote, “It is OK to not believe in Allah,” or “It is OK not to believe in Odin,” the sentiment is the same. Hmmmmm, since when did “God” only mean YHWH?

And the mill stone quote is skirting quite close to a call to action. If you tell believers that their god/s/ess/es support violence, the believers are more willing to tolerate and support violence. Ham is getting desperate.

BTW, anybody besides me recognize that stock “family” photo? Go check out the “Stand for Marriage Maine” site. Do all of the RRRW whackos use the same photo? They certainly can’t claim they’re too poor to afford their own photos so what’s the deal?

AiG said:

“…sacrilege…”

I LOLed at that word.

Ain’t that their small-minded, tiny little hard-hearted God in a nutshell? Created the universe, but can’t take a joke.

And while we certainly want to continue to grow and serve more campers, this summer a grand total of about 250 kids went to the existing camps, as opposed to the millions who were sent to Bible camp, so we are hardly brainwashing the nation’s children.

Don’t you understand that any of those 250 children could be come the Antichrist? Imagine what would happen if 250 Antichrists burst across the face of America, teaching Satanism, woman-on-top sexual immorality, and Dungeons and Dragons?
In no time at all, children all across America would be listening to heavy metal music, wearing tattoos and piercings, and telling their elders “We’ll stay on your f**king lawn and you’ll like it!”
Worst of all, some children would come to believe they came from monkeys. Therefor, they would act like monkeys, and throw feces at the pastor.
You need to understand that no child is born an atheist. Therefor atheists need to recruit our children. That’s what the move to put evolution in schools is all about!

Kriss