Comments on: 2012 Presidential Election: Obama vs. Creationist?

By: ralph e shaffer

ralph e shaffer — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:29:58 +0000

You aren’t the only one who wants a Democrat to challenge Obama in the 2012 primary. Check out the op-ed of 3/31/11 by ralph e shaffer and norma jeanne strobel: “Obama may have Democratic challenger.”

By: Bacopa

Bacopa — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:00:30 +0000

An all-woo Republican ticket will fail. After that, there will be a Night of the Long Knives and the Republicans will either emerge as a reasonable conservative party or will become a marginilized religious wingnut party with a few strongholds across the US.

Of course, the Dems will probably just become the corporate shill party the Repubs used to be. They almost already are.

By: thilina

thilina — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:29:36 +0000

I thought being a creationist was a prerequisite to being a republican?

And pandering to the stupid and people with short attention spans is what republican and fox “news” do best.

As long as creationism goes, saying you think evolution is the best explanation we have doesn’t get you a vote on its own. Saying you doubt evolution can get you votes with no consideration for the rest of your policies (wave a gun while saying it instantly gets you 55% of the votes).

By: JJR

JJR — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:04:10 +0000

@Ron above:
“What’s a conservative atheist like me supposed to do?”

Do what the rest of them do–vote Libertarian.

“The Republicans need to get rid of the religious right.”

I was a moderate Republican High School atheist until 1992, when Bush Sr. openly embraced the religious right, which turned me into a de facto Democrat who voted for Clinton twice (though much less enthusiastically the 2nd time around).

Voted Green the last time, though I did vote for Obama in the Texas Primary as a way to take a swipe at pro-War Sen. Hillary Clinton.

The great liberal hope, Al Franken, just voted, along with Diane Feinstein, to renew some Patriot ACT related legislation. Thanks, Al.

Still thinkin’ about that eventual move to Canada. *Sigh*.

By: llewelly

llewelly — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:12:57 +0000

I know the Republicans talk the talk of fiscal responsibility, but when have they ever walked the walk?

Hey! President Lincoln had a war to fight, you know.

By: Reginald Selkirk

Reginald Selkirk — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:37:15 +0000

Egads! Why would they even consider Palin? As a Vice Presidental candidate, she cost them the election. So why in hell would they even consider her for the top spot?

Because there is a distinction between what people in the GOP want and what Americans in general want. The religious whackos got invited in, and now they have taken over. They have no concept of compromise, and have driven out most moderates in the interest of ideological purity.

By: Beloved Spear

Beloved Spear — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:24:47 +0000

Several of the commenters here have hit on the sad reality about this issue: Most Americans don’t give a damn. What we care about is what is immediately around us. It’s all we see. We see our kid’s endless schedule of activities, or the details of the consumer electronics we crave, or what Jon and Kate are doing, or that beyotch three cubicles down who keeps making snarky comments about our work during staff meetings. Through that filter, things like giving a damn about valid science or the environment or the future of humanity are utterly irrelevant.

It bites, but it’s how we humans function.

By: muggle

muggle — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:52:41 +0000

Egads! Why would they even consider Palin? As a Vice Presidental candidate, she cost them the election. So why in hell would they even consider her for the top spot?

By: Reginald Selkirk

Reginald Selkirk — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:35 +0000

Dan Gilbert: “I’m with Ron. The Republicans need to ditch the religious right and get back to being the fiscally responsible party instead of the anti-intellectual party.”

I know the Republicans talk the talk of fiscal responsibility, but when have they ever walked the walk?

By: Reginald Selkirk

Reginald Selkirk — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:21:12 +0000

Jeff: “I think Palin disqualified herself for future higher office when she quit the governorship”

I understand what you’re saying, it makes sense to me. However, the religious right has an enormous capacity for hypocrisy. Time and again, they are able to accept and forgive behaviour in their own which they find abhorrent in others.

BTW, Newt Gingrich is obviously eager to insert himself into a position of power and feed from the trough again. Now in his third marriage and freshly converted to Catholicism, I don’t if he’ll be able to gain any traction among his old base.