True fact with the data to back it up…

I videotaped an angelic being back in 1989…Big deal!!! Right? or No? Put the short video on You Tube and Myspace in 2004 … With a 40 word story of how i captured its super bright image… 

Number of views on You Tube too this date = 17 most are mine 

Number of views on Myspace too this date = 12 most are mine

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No nothing…

God it seems like no one really cares when it comes to the real thing vs this kind of dumb nonsense…

Now some Polish Catholics see this so-called miracle in a communion wafer and millions view it online and tens of millions comment about it too..

That makes me the biggest loser in the short history of this planet…

that’s how i feel!

Perhaps this is trickery, (that is speculation) we humans don’t have all the answers so in the past things we don’t understand are sometimes attributed to aliens, gods etc….

How do we know when we have enough tools, skills and collective knowledge to definitively explain what currently has no explanation.

I personally have no explanation for the true driving force for mangetism and electriciticy (and for the record neither does Stephen Hawking) so does it exist?

It is not magic for sure, and we use it and understand it’s actions and reactions, but cannot explain its origin.

So are “miracles” or events deemed miracles, just physics events beyond our current collective human intellect to comprehend?

I really do mean that. I don’t say that because you believe differently (assuming I’ve read you correctly) so much as because this is the internet.

That said I do appreciate your cautions to me: There is a truth that I don’t like to think about that miracles do sometimes excite me more than they ought. And I can be prone to credulity. I still think this one’s got a chance, but being in a religious tradition where miracles get reported all the time, it’s helpful to me to be reminded not to be credulous.

You also don’t get (at least as far as I’m concerned) to assume a miracle is any less likely than a natural event

Countless communion wafers are used every week all around the world. Very few are ever even claimed to turn into literal human tissue like this. Even if we grant that this type of miracle is possible, it is an incredibly rare event. On the other hand, sleight-of-hand is used all the time all over the world to fake similar feats of magic.

All I’m saying is that the extraordinarily rare event is less likely than the slight variation of an every day event. Any philosophy which prevents you from recognizing this seems dishonest to me. You’re don’t have to found your philosophy on my grounds, but the assumption of miracles does not require you to be credulous regarding particular miracle claims. It’s my understanding that even the bible warns against believing false claims of miracle and prophecy.

there is currently less evidence of fraud than there is of something freaky having happened

Suppose a man walked up to you on the street and produced a series of coins seemingly from nothing, then claimed it was a miracle. What evidence of fraud would you expect to find? Without a video of the event, it would be quite difficult to prove how he produced the coins, and I’d fully expect that the Catholic church and police would both be unable to find any evidence of fraud.

You might argue that it would actually be quite easy to prove that the coins didn’t have a supernatural origin. Simply look at the coins to determine where they were minted. Analogously, we could analyze the DNA of the tissue produced by the priest and perhaps determine a natural origin. However, you haven’t demonstrated that this has even been tried, as the link supplied merely says that the tissue looks like human heart tissue under a microscope.

The evidence presented is fully compatible with a fraud. When evaluating a claimed miracle, it is prudent to rule out natural explanations before assuming a miracle. You shouldn’t simply go straight to claiming a miracle because a natural cause is unproven. This is because, by definition, a miracle is less likely than a natural event.

According to the Telegraph, local police find no evidence of fraud. So apparently the cops have indeed been notified!

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/10/possible-eucharistic-miracle-in-poland/

Fr. Z. who hosts thsi blog explains why the wafer is placed in water. Hopefully there will be some further testing on the matter; until there is I guess we won’t really know what’s up in any case. It is frankly rather uncharitable (dare I say unfriendly?) to assume fraud just because the alternative is supernatural, especially when there is currently less evidence of fraud than there is of something freaky having happened in the first place.