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	<title>Comments on: Jim Corbett Gets a Break in Case Against Former Student Chad Farnan</title>
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	<description>by Hemant Mehta</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The appeal should be interesting, Corbett is getting help from a heavyweight in Constitutional law: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abajournal.com/news/chemerinsky_represents_teacher_who_called_creationism_superstitious_nonsens&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Erwin Chemerinsky&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appeal should be interesting, Corbett is getting help from a heavyweight in Constitutional law: <a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/chemerinsky_represents_teacher_who_called_creationism_superstitious_nonsens" rel="nofollow">Erwin Chemerinsky</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I must be misunderstanding something here.

As I&#039;m reading this, the plaintiff might be ordered to pay fees, merely because his complaint resulted in a ruling of qualified immunity.

This seems like it would have a hugely chilling effect on lawsuits about civil rights.

For instance, in SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING, the supreme court ruled that it&#039;s a civil rights violation for school administrators to strip-search a 13 year old merely because they suspect her of possessing a tablet of aspirin.

However, they also ruled that the administrators actions were covered by qualified immunity.  Surely, awarding costs to the plaintiff would be unreasonable in a case such as this.

Is there something that made the suit against Mr. Corbett particularly frivolous or otherwise merits putting costs onto the plaintiff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I must be misunderstanding something here.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m reading this, the plaintiff might be ordered to pay fees, merely because his complaint resulted in a ruling of qualified immunity.</p>
<p>This seems like it would have a hugely chilling effect on lawsuits about civil rights.</p>
<p>For instance, in SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING, the supreme court ruled that it&#8217;s a civil rights violation for school administrators to strip-search a 13 year old merely because they suspect her of possessing a tablet of aspirin.</p>
<p>However, they also ruled that the administrators actions were covered by qualified immunity.  Surely, awarding costs to the plaintiff would be unreasonable in a case such as this.</p>
<p>Is there something that made the suit against Mr. Corbett particularly frivolous or otherwise merits putting costs onto the plaintiff?</p>
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		<title>By: Hermes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hermes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused.  If Corbett was found guilty, how can Corbett or the school district recover attorney’s fees?

Yes, he&#039;s immune, but what is the justification for him shifting his legal bills to Farnan and &#039;Advocates for Faith &amp; Freedom&#039;?

I can see it if Farnan and his lawyers were found to be willfully bringing a nuisance suit (as Farnam&#039;s lawyers should be aware if that was the case) instead of other paths such as arbitration.  Then, nail the lawyers and Farnam for wasting the court&#039;s time in an effort to abuse the defendant and his counsel.

With that all said, I admit that I don&#039;t know enough of the details of the case.  From what little I&#039;ve heard, what Corbett did was not serious enough to warrant a court case though it was (?) out of line if he repeatedly went back to the issue.  That said, creationism is defensibly exactly as Corbett stated; &quot;superstitious nonsense&quot;, though in a class the teacher should use a more scholarly approach to any issue even if the conclusion when facts are presented may be as clear as simply stating that an idea is &quot;superstitious nonsense&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  If Corbett was found guilty, how can Corbett or the school district recover attorney’s fees?</p>
<p>Yes, he&#8217;s immune, but what is the justification for him shifting his legal bills to Farnan and &#8216;Advocates for Faith &amp; Freedom&#8217;?</p>
<p>I can see it if Farnan and his lawyers were found to be willfully bringing a nuisance suit (as Farnam&#8217;s lawyers should be aware if that was the case) instead of other paths such as arbitration.  Then, nail the lawyers and Farnam for wasting the court&#8217;s time in an effort to abuse the defendant and his counsel.</p>
<p>With that all said, I admit that I don&#8217;t know enough of the details of the case.  From what little I&#8217;ve heard, what Corbett did was not serious enough to warrant a court case though it was (?) out of line if he repeatedly went back to the issue.  That said, creationism is defensibly exactly as Corbett stated; &#8220;superstitious nonsense&#8221;, though in a class the teacher should use a more scholarly approach to any issue even if the conclusion when facts are presented may be as clear as simply stating that an idea is &#8220;superstitious nonsense&#8221;.</p>
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