There’s a different between education and indoctrination, and it’s a difference that you are apparently unable to see.

And check the law. People don’t have full rights until they reach the age of majority. That’s because they don’t have the maturity to handle it. Duh. I have heard people argue that the age of majority should be changed to 16 but I’ve yet heard anyone argue that it should be 6. The reason is obvious.

Raising a child is training a wild animal to be human.

Absofuckinglutely! Somehow I don’t think realizing this makes me a bad mother or grandmother. Like you, I got compliments on my daughter all the time growing up (some seemed mystified that this was in spite of her being unchurched). I’d think do you think this is some freaking accident. No, it’s due to hard work on my behalf. And, yes, different training methods. I broke the cycle of abuse thank you very much.

My grandson’s tougher because he’s a stubborn, rebellious cuss like his grandmother and rather hyperactive but, yeah, he too has more civilized manners than a hell of a lot of kids his age.

Just like the lion cub couldn’t survive on it’s own, neither could people cubs and I’m sorry but whoever’s taking the trouble to nurture said people cubs deserves the right to raise them as they see fit, including in their religous rituals (or absence thereof). They should only be interfered with when they aren’t taking proper care of said cub under their responsibility.

Like it or not, kids are not fully developed, mature individuals and do have to be guided. When they are fully developed, mature individuals — or when the laws of their land recognize them as such — then they will make their own way in this world. Until them, no, PubMan, (or any other idiot who thinks parents should concede control to the cubs’ “freedom of conscience”) they don’t have said liberty. Deal with that and grow up yourself.

And what the hell is wrong with calling an American kid American? Or a kid in India Indian and so on and so forth. Um, it’s just stating a fact. Deal with that too unless you have accomplished your creepy new one government world order which all humans must cowtow to.

And how the hell is this religious liberty for kids supposed to work exactly? Kids of religious families get to stay home alone while their parents attend church or temple? The Atheist has to allow their child to attend church if they express an interest?

Why do I suspect that those promoting taking away parents’ rights to raise their children in their worldview assume that kids will naturally see that their worldview is superior to Mommy and Daddy’s? Pretty fucked up and egotistical if you ask me. Odds are kids would choose whoever’s raising them anyway, at least before a certain age. Let them label themself and they will label themself what their caregiver would have anyway.

This is making a big deal over nothing.

And, no, it doesn’t mean the kid will grow up so freaking brainwashed they won’t change their mind. I was Christian when I was seven. The nones are growing. That’s not because a kid raised with a label was unable to change that label as an adult.

Then how do animal ’societies’ exist and thrive?

There are so many, and all have different adaptations. Bees have a genetic hierarchy in their make up. No bee will stop to help another, and no drone can aspire to be the queen. Lions use a system of strength. The strongest lion will get a harem of females, the weakest are cast out and survive alone. Chimpanzees wont allow anyone else to care for their children, and will often attack and kill chimps from other troops that enter their territory.

There are many different ways for a social animal groups to organize themselves. Some of them even require teaching from the adults to the juveniles. None of the other animal societies require the deep compassion and altruism present in human societies, so its a safe conclusion that those qualities are not required for a social animal to exist and thrive.
Example:
The alpha lion has no sympathy for other male lions, nor even for his own cubs. The female lions will readily accept any male lion that can defeat the current pride patriarch. Lion society looks more like a marriage of convenience than passion. If everyone can keep up, the get to be part of the group, if they fall behind, abandonment.

Only humans have developed a way to codify and transmit that societal information beyond the immediate generation (writing) That unique innovation creates complex societies where the basic survival information cannot be transmitted simply through genetics or parental example training. Formal operant conditioning is the only way to transfer the huge quantity of information a human will need to live in our world.

If the motivation for this campaign are British parochial schools, then it seems they’re not getting that message across.