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	<title>Comments on: Ray Comfort&#8217;s Miseducation Campaign Went Live Early</title>
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		<title>By: Arny</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-601407</link>
		<dc:creator>Arny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor trees, you have been sacrificed for nothing.... the books published by Bridge-Logos Publishing and title adulterated by Ray had been reduced to unsolicited junks. Worst, the deceptive title and cover conned people into buying it... how naughty can Ray get (or was it the publisher&#039;s idea)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor trees, you have been sacrificed for nothing&#8230;. the books published by Bridge-Logos Publishing and title adulterated by Ray had been reduced to unsolicited junks. Worst, the deceptive title and cover conned people into buying it&#8230; how naughty can Ray get (or was it the publisher&#8217;s idea)?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-406460</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for Mr. Comfort. First off, understand that I am not an atheist. I do believe in God. I understand that by posting this here I&#039;m gonna catch some flak, but I have a question for Ray and this seems like a simple way to get it to him. Besides if any of you can answer it with out using something to the effect of &quot;Because he doesn&#039;t exist&quot; I&#039;d be impressed. 

Why would God punish something which He created, for doing exactly what He created it to do?

Because if He created us, and everything, and knows exactly what we are going to do at any given time, througot our lives even, then why would He be mad when we did exactly what He knew we were going to, and in fact made us to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for Mr. Comfort. First off, understand that I am not an atheist. I do believe in God. I understand that by posting this here I&#8217;m gonna catch some flak, but I have a question for Ray and this seems like a simple way to get it to him. Besides if any of you can answer it with out using something to the effect of &#8220;Because he doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221; I&#8217;d be impressed. </p>
<p>Why would God punish something which He created, for doing exactly what He created it to do?</p>
<p>Because if He created us, and everything, and knows exactly what we are going to do at any given time, througot our lives even, then why would He be mad when we did exactly what He knew we were going to, and in fact made us to do?</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-401425</link>
		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  But Hitler spoke about evolution in his autobiography and then used it correctly for his own ends. He took survival of the fittest to its logical conclusion.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;   
I see this, and I note that &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-397833&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my question&lt;/a&gt; was not included in the interview. I would like to know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
  But Hitler spoke about evolution in his autobiography and then used it correctly for his own ends. He took survival of the fittest to its logical conclusion.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I see this, and I note that <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-397833" rel="nofollow">my question</a> was not included in the interview. I would like to know why.</p>
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		<title>By: llewelly</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-401280</link>
		<dc:creator>llewelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are the trees so high that people have to climb to get them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
God created the Tyrannosaurus Rex to pick bananas for humans. But naughty Eve, filled with sinful desires, tasted the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and manipulated Adam into tasting it as well. From that day forth, mankind has lived in a Fallen World, and Tyrannosaurus Rex, turned to violence by the Sins of Man, has lusted after human flesh ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are the trees so high that people have to climb to get them?</p></blockquote>
<p>God created the Tyrannosaurus Rex to pick bananas for humans. But naughty Eve, filled with sinful desires, tasted the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and manipulated Adam into tasting it as well. From that day forth, mankind has lived in a Fallen World, and Tyrannosaurus Rex, turned to violence by the Sins of Man, has lusted after human flesh ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: maplebar</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-400530</link>
		<dc:creator>maplebar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go to the University of Southern California and the other day, one of my friends came home, excited at the free copy of &lt;em&gt;On the Origin of Species&lt;/em&gt; she had received on campus. I had known about the Ray Comfort edition but I still felt a little shocked at the fact that such deceit was occurring on my own campus, against my fellow Trojans. I flipped through the introduction and explained to her the truth about its purpose. She told me she hadn&#039;t even realized it and that made me wonder how many other students also hadn&#039;t realized it. Funny thing is, she followed with, &quot;It&#039;s ok. I don&#039;t know who reads introductions anyway.&quot; Haha oh college kids..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go to the University of Southern California and the other day, one of my friends came home, excited at the free copy of <em>On the Origin of Species</em> she had received on campus. I had known about the Ray Comfort edition but I still felt a little shocked at the fact that such deceit was occurring on my own campus, against my fellow Trojans. I flipped through the introduction and explained to her the truth about its purpose. She told me she hadn&#8217;t even realized it and that made me wonder how many other students also hadn&#8217;t realized it. Funny thing is, she followed with, &#8220;It&#8217;s ok. I don&#8217;t know who reads introductions anyway.&#8221; Haha oh college kids..</p>
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		<title>By: Revyloution</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-399684</link>
		<dc:creator>Revyloution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lifer said
&lt;blockquote&gt;“I can’t see how anyone who’s had that much exposure to evolution, even from the opposite side, could still be honestly misrepresenting it so badly.”

Do you pay attention to creationists?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Atheists (and Christians who are able to accept modern science) are perfectly capable of accurately describing the creationist view point.

I think thats the main difference between most creationists and those who accept the conclusions of science.  Most creationists that I talk to have almost no understanding of biology, where I have a firm grasp on their &#039;theory&#039; of creation.

I think that the next debate between science and creationism should begin with the debaters first explaining how much of the opposing sides ideas they understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifer said</p>
<blockquote><p>“I can’t see how anyone who’s had that much exposure to evolution, even from the opposite side, could still be honestly misrepresenting it so badly.”</p>
<p>Do you pay attention to creationists?</p></blockquote>
<p>Atheists (and Christians who are able to accept modern science) are perfectly capable of accurately describing the creationist view point.</p>
<p>I think thats the main difference between most creationists and those who accept the conclusions of science.  Most creationists that I talk to have almost no understanding of biology, where I have a firm grasp on their &#8216;theory&#8217; of creation.</p>
<p>I think that the next debate between science and creationism should begin with the debaters first explaining how much of the opposing sides ideas they understand.</p>
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		<title>By: muggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Jen, I don&#039;t.  Hence, the obvious question that would obviously result in immediate denial.  I&#039;ll read the interview but I pretty much expect it&#039;ll go the way you say.  Charlatons don&#039;t answer questions honestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Jen, I don&#8217;t.  Hence, the obvious question that would obviously result in immediate denial.  I&#8217;ll read the interview but I pretty much expect it&#8217;ll go the way you say.  Charlatons don&#8217;t answer questions honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: Eupraxsophy</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-398748</link>
		<dc:creator>Eupraxsophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I feel that somehow Ray Comfort will most likely resort to his usual set of excuses as opposed to any real explanations or rational and reasonable answers I would still like to ask some questions and see what his response would be.

(1)Why does it say in the Bible Old Testiment implying testimonies from witnesses and in Genesis 1:1 it says; &quot;In the beginning God Created Heaven and Earth&quot;, then who would your witness be?
And if it&#039;s Moses that wrote the Torah then how could he be the witness that was there when God created Heaven and Earth?
And if this isn&#039;t a testimony from an actual witness, then how can anyone even know that the Bible and any of it&#039;s other content are true? Because it presents itself as being a collection of testimonies from the very beginning.

(2) What credentials do you have in which you have enough knowledge and understanding about evolution to know that it can&#039;t possibly be in anyway truth nor even an actual science?  And if so then what scientific journal(s) have you published your findings in so that other scientist can have an opportunity to weigh it with other known facts?  What truth and/or evidence do you know of, or have that  completely disproves evolution and contradicts it&#039;s evidence?

(3)If you want to compare Hitler with Darwin, then why are you and your followers passing out propaganda?  That is one of the methods that Hitler use to gain power.

Here is something for you Ray Comfort to consider.  Knowledge and wisdom are the subjects to the nobility of truth, so if thy caution thyself not to be the FOOL and thy have a boastful tongue then let it be that which rest upon thy head the Crown of Truth. For the integrity of the wise is to be found in truth, so then where shall it be found in that of the FOOL? And this above all things to thy own self be TRUE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I feel that somehow Ray Comfort will most likely resort to his usual set of excuses as opposed to any real explanations or rational and reasonable answers I would still like to ask some questions and see what his response would be.</p>
<p>(1)Why does it say in the Bible Old Testiment implying testimonies from witnesses and in Genesis 1:1 it says; &#8220;In the beginning God Created Heaven and Earth&#8221;, then who would your witness be?<br />
And if it&#8217;s Moses that wrote the Torah then how could he be the witness that was there when God created Heaven and Earth?<br />
And if this isn&#8217;t a testimony from an actual witness, then how can anyone even know that the Bible and any of it&#8217;s other content are true? Because it presents itself as being a collection of testimonies from the very beginning.</p>
<p>(2) What credentials do you have in which you have enough knowledge and understanding about evolution to know that it can&#8217;t possibly be in anyway truth nor even an actual science?  And if so then what scientific journal(s) have you published your findings in so that other scientist can have an opportunity to weigh it with other known facts?  What truth and/or evidence do you know of, or have that  completely disproves evolution and contradicts it&#8217;s evidence?</p>
<p>(3)If you want to compare Hitler with Darwin, then why are you and your followers passing out propaganda?  That is one of the methods that Hitler use to gain power.</p>
<p>Here is something for you Ray Comfort to consider.  Knowledge and wisdom are the subjects to the nobility of truth, so if thy caution thyself not to be the FOOL and thy have a boastful tongue then let it be that which rest upon thy head the Crown of Truth. For the integrity of the wise is to be found in truth, so then where shall it be found in that of the FOOL? And this above all things to thy own self be TRUE.</p>
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		<title>By: BathTub</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-398534</link>
		<dc:creator>BathTub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, Jen, no I don&#039;t, it&#039;s just most of the questions Ray flat out ignores and doesn&#039;t attempt to answer. So I would at least like to see how he avoids some new questions. 

Ray is on a $120,000 salary while pretending to earn just an &#039;average wage&#039;, he&#039;s a charlatan through and through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, Jen, no I don&#8217;t, it&#8217;s just most of the questions Ray flat out ignores and doesn&#8217;t attempt to answer. So I would at least like to see how he avoids some new questions. </p>
<p>Ray is on a $120,000 salary while pretending to earn just an &#8216;average wage&#8217;, he&#8217;s a charlatan through and through.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/19/ray-comforts-miseducation-campaign-went-live-early/#comment-398529</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for all the atheists/ awesome non-atheists who hang out here:

Does anyone think this Q&amp;A is going to be constructive? I imagine Hemant will ask questions, Ray will answer with tired old crap, and then he will not engage anyone else in the comment section, as we bash our heads int the wall trying to get him to understand that emotional arguments are not going to convince people who come at their beliefs through logic and observation.

I feel drained just thinking about it. I am going to go eat a banana and find some aspirin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for all the atheists/ awesome non-atheists who hang out here:</p>
<p>Does anyone think this Q&amp;A is going to be constructive? I imagine Hemant will ask questions, Ray will answer with tired old crap, and then he will not engage anyone else in the comment section, as we bash our heads int the wall trying to get him to understand that emotional arguments are not going to convince people who come at their beliefs through logic and observation.</p>
<p>I feel drained just thinking about it. I am going to go eat a banana and find some aspirin.</p>
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