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	<title>Comments on: Arkansas Solstice Display Denied</title>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/23/arkansas-solstice-display-denied/#comment-410837</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you get the update on this? They won!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you get the update on this? They won!</p>
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		<title>By: muggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tod Billings!  Flash from my past.  We used to participate on a lot of boards together (in the bad old days of bulletin boards) when I went by New York Bitch and PROUD of it.  He was a great guy and I&#039;ll have to drop him a line and wish him luck with this.

Yeah, it&#039;s pretty bad visually but could have been worse.  He used to do a great running gag about worshipping his dog Newton&#039;s butt that was hilarious.  I&#039;ll have to ask how Newton&#039;s doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tod Billings!  Flash from my past.  We used to participate on a lot of boards together (in the bad old days of bulletin boards) when I went by New York Bitch and PROUD of it.  He was a great guy and I&#8217;ll have to drop him a line and wish him luck with this.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s pretty bad visually but could have been worse.  He used to do a great running gag about worshipping his dog Newton&#8217;s butt that was hilarious.  I&#8217;ll have to ask how Newton&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/23/arkansas-solstice-display-denied/#comment-400556</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, It will be interesting to see if we will hear about this on the news at all :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, It will be interesting to see if we will hear about this on the news at all <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nadine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Apparently the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers put up details, including pictures of this years display and the applications and the rejection letters for both years over at http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/. It redirects to http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html if you’d rather just go there directly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The weird thing about this is that both of the Freethinkers&#039; letters give an extensive description of the display. In 2008 the response says &quot;at this time we are unable to fully determine the appearance or qualities of your proposed display&quot; and in 2009 they don&#039;t even bother saying anything like that. The 2009 letter rejects it with no reason given besides that the Ark. Secretary of State is charged with &quot;preserving and maintaining proper order and decorum on the State Capital Grounds.&quot;
Maybe their display isn&#039;t the best (honestly, I&#039;d rather see a simple sign like FFRF&#039;s Winter Solstice one from Washington last year), but it seems that maintaing proper order and decorum would involve allowing all points of view to be displayed. 
The &quot;it doesn&#039;t fit in with our holiday tone&quot; statement is incredibly arbitrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Apparently the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers put up details, including pictures of this years display and the applications and the rejection letters for both years over at <a href="http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/</a>. It redirects to <a href="http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html</a> if you’d rather just go there directly.</p></blockquote>
<p>The weird thing about this is that both of the Freethinkers&#8217; letters give an extensive description of the display. In 2008 the response says &#8220;at this time we are unable to fully determine the appearance or qualities of your proposed display&#8221; and in 2009 they don&#8217;t even bother saying anything like that. The 2009 letter rejects it with no reason given besides that the Ark. Secretary of State is charged with &#8220;preserving and maintaining proper order and decorum on the State Capital Grounds.&#8221;<br />
Maybe their display isn&#8217;t the best (honestly, I&#8217;d rather see a simple sign like FFRF&#8217;s Winter Solstice one from Washington last year), but it seems that maintaing proper order and decorum would involve allowing all points of view to be displayed.<br />
The &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t fit in with our holiday tone&#8221; statement is incredibly arbitrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Aina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in Little Rock.  I have to say that the display looks like an outhouse.  It&#039;s ugly.  If the display was denied for that reason, I could understand.  But since there was no reason given we can only assume that it is because it isn&#039;t laden with godcrap.

Hey, Robert -- What part of the state are you in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Little Rock.  I have to say that the display looks like an outhouse.  It&#8217;s ugly.  If the display was denied for that reason, I could understand.  But since there was no reason given we can only assume that it is because it isn&#8217;t laden with godcrap.</p>
<p>Hey, Robert &#8212; What part of the state are you in?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember, this is the same state that also brought us The Duggars, Mike Huckabee, and Arnold Murray. As a member of a freethought group in Arkansas, maybe I need to be a little more active in my corner of the state. The nuts have had a “monopoly on freespeech” way too long.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And don&#039;t forget Rapture Ready is based in Arkansas. I forgot about the Duggars momentarily, but I have no idea how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Remember, this is the same state that also brought us The Duggars, Mike Huckabee, and Arnold Murray. As a member of a freethought group in Arkansas, maybe I need to be a little more active in my corner of the state. The nuts have had a “monopoly on freespeech” way too long.</p></blockquote>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget Rapture Ready is based in Arkansas. I forgot about the Duggars momentarily, but I have no idea how.</p>
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		<title>By: ckitching</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckitching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to dump on their idea, but I can&#039;t say I like their design.  I don&#039;t know what other groups are putting up, so I can&#039;t say how it compares, but I think it&#039;s a bit heavy on message and light on visual appeal.

I think there are several things that could potentially be used on a display like that.  Anything from the historical celebrations of the winter solstice, to a simple display of family and friends enjoying each other&#039;s company.  Perhaps they only have a shoestring budget and can&#039;t afford the props required to make something like this, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to dump on their idea, but I can&#8217;t say I like their design.  I don&#8217;t know what other groups are putting up, so I can&#8217;t say how it compares, but I think it&#8217;s a bit heavy on message and light on visual appeal.</p>
<p>I think there are several things that could potentially be used on a display like that.  Anything from the historical celebrations of the winter solstice, to a simple display of family and friends enjoying each other&#8217;s company.  Perhaps they only have a shoestring budget and can&#8217;t afford the props required to make something like this, though.</p>
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		<title>By: VentureFree</title>
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		<dc:creator>VentureFree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers put up details, including pictures of this years display and the applications and the rejection letters for both years over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/&lt;/a&gt;. It redirects to &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html&lt;/a&gt; if you&#039;d rather just go there directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers put up details, including pictures of this years display and the applications and the rejection letters for both years over at <a href="http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wintersolsticedisplay.info/</a>. It redirects to <a href="http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.me.com/suzique99/WSD/Winter_Solstice.html</a> if you&#8217;d rather just go there directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Edmond</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/23/arkansas-solstice-display-denied/#comment-399931</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all fairness, maybe most Arkansans just don&#039;t BELIEVE that the solstice is real.  Don&#039;t try to force your beliefs on them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, maybe most Arkansans just don&#8217;t BELIEVE that the solstice is real.  Don&#8217;t try to force your beliefs on them!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Madewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Madewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;especially when we’re talking about the same state that brought us Will Phillips.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Remember, this is the same state that also brought us The Duggars, Mike Huckabee, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shepherdschapel.com/index.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arnold Murray&lt;/a&gt;. As a member of a freethought group in Arkansas, maybe I need to be a little more active in my corner of the state. The nuts have had a &quot;monopoly on freespeech&quot; way too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>especially when we’re talking about the same state that brought us Will Phillips.</p></blockquote>
<p>Remember, this is the same state that also brought us The Duggars, Mike Huckabee, and <a href="http://www.shepherdschapel.com/index.cfm" rel="nofollow">Arnold Murray</a>. As a member of a freethought group in Arkansas, maybe I need to be a little more active in my corner of the state. The nuts have had a &#8220;monopoly on freespeech&#8221; way too long.</p>
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