Comments on: FOX News Angry at Lack of Religious Displays in Washington State Capitol http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/ by Hemant Mehta Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Emily http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-406650 Emily Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:45:17 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-406650 Wait... and they say he's live in Seattle. He's definitely not in Seattle. He's in the newsroom. God, Fox is annoying. Wait… and they say he’s live in Seattle. He’s definitely not in Seattle. He’s in the newsroom. God, Fox is annoying.

]]> By: We Are The 801 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-403582 We Are The 801 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:35:07 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-403582 "The delusion into which the X. Y. Z. plot shewed it possible to push the people; the successful experiment made under the prevalence of that delusion on the clause of the constitution, which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro' the U. S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." ~ Thomas Jefferson “The delusion into which the X. Y. Z. plot shewed it possible to push the people; the successful experiment made under the prevalence of that delusion on the clause of the constitution, which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro’ the U. S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

]]> By: Emily http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402954 Emily Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:41:14 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402954 Hahaha I had never thought of rearanging the letters in Santa... that's quite interesting. Although I have to say, if Santa and Satan are one in the same that puts an extremely different look on my childhood... Anyways, I do find it kind of sad that no matter what the Washington State Capitol does, people can't just be happy. I think that no matter what, people should focus more on the meaning of holidays rather than being ostentatious with showing off decorations and trying to convince people to join in on their religion. Its almost a little sad, even though I have to admit, holiday decorations can be pretty. Hahaha I had never thought of rearanging the letters in Santa… that’s quite interesting. Although I have to say, if Santa and Satan are one in the same that puts an extremely different look on my childhood…
Anyways, I do find it kind of sad that no matter what the Washington State Capitol does, people can’t just be happy. I think that no matter what, people should focus more on the meaning of holidays rather than being ostentatious with showing off decorations and trying to convince people to join in on their religion. Its almost a little sad, even though I have to admit, holiday decorations can be pretty.

]]> By: Beth http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402867 Beth Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:22:36 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402867 @ Emily: You know what you get when you rearrange "Santa"? Satan! ;) @ Emily: You know what you get when you rearrange “Santa”? Satan! ;)

]]> By: PsiCop http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402677 PsiCop Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:50 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402677 Hmm. What's really odd about this is that, at the same time they're reporting that there will be "NO" holiday displays in the Washington state capitol this year, <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/27/washington-state-implement-rules-barring-holiday-displays-inside-capitol/" rel="nofollow">Fox itself fully admits</a> that there WILL be some holiday displays nonetheleless:<blockquote>The rules, which were officially signed into order by Washington's Department of General Administration on Oct. 30, still allow the annual state-sponsored holiday tree inside the Capitol rotunda.</blockquote>In other words, Fox News not only lied about this, they have the temerity to <a href="http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2009/11/29/christmas-banned-in-washington-state/" rel="nofollow">provide evidence they lied</a> on their own Web site! Hmm. What’s really odd about this is that, at the same time they’re reporting that there will be “NO” holiday displays in the Washington state capitol this year, Fox itself fully admits that there WILL be some holiday displays nonetheleless:
The rules, which were officially signed into order by Washington’s Department of General Administration on Oct. 30, still allow the annual state-sponsored holiday tree inside the Capitol rotunda.

In other words, Fox News not only lied about this, they have the temerity to provide evidence they lied on their own Web site!

]]> By: muggle http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402665 muggle Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:41:32 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402665 Sackbut, I have to agree. This is exactly the outcome they should have desired. They should be celebrating a victory for church/state separation. Sackbut, I have to agree. This is exactly the outcome they should have desired. They should be celebrating a victory for church/state separation.

]]> By: Sackbut http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402549 Sackbut Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:19:40 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402549 This is ridiculous. <a href="http://www.fox43.com/news/wpmt-pmnews-nativityrally-11-28-09,0,7450501.story" rel="nofollow">Dozens Rally to support Prohibited Nativity Scene</a> <blockquote>The nativity is now on display in front of the Central Presbyterian Church on one of the square's corners. The solution is not what rallyers or the nonbelievers wanted. "Removing everything is an equitable solution," PAN President Steven Neubauer said, adding he wanted to see the nativity and atheist sign allowed to be displayed together. "We would have preferred to have our display up at least for one season."</blockquote> I'm <em>very</em> surprised the atheist organization was not perfectly satisfied that such signs were prohibited from the public square. The atheist organization <em>and</em> the religious group can perfectly well display their signs on private property. It appears that wasn't the point, which is unfortunate. This is ridiculous.

Dozens Rally to support Prohibited Nativity Scene

The nativity is now on display in front of the Central Presbyterian Church on one of the square’s corners. The solution is not what rallyers or the nonbelievers wanted.

“Removing everything is an equitable solution,” PAN President Steven Neubauer said, adding he wanted to see the nativity and atheist sign allowed to be displayed together. “We would have preferred to have our display up at least for one season.”

I’m very surprised the atheist organization was not perfectly satisfied that such signs were prohibited from the public square. The atheist organization and the religious group can perfectly well display their signs on private property. It appears that wasn’t the point, which is unfortunate.

]]> By: Emily http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402538 Emily Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:25:23 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402538 This is incredibly silly. I absolutely loveeeee the way fox portrays atheists... like we're some kind of fun-holiday hating people who would like nothing better than for everyone to be unhappy. Wronggg! This holiday season isn't all about religion, as much as some people would like it to be, its about family and giving and being with people you love and having a good time. I mean, Christmas isn't all religious anyways... Santa sure as hell wasn't in the Bible. So atheists such as myself aren't trying to be a Grinch and stop Christmas... we just look at the holiday in a more logical sense than those that actually think a virgin has God's baby. This is incredibly silly. I absolutely loveeeee the way fox portrays atheists… like we’re some kind of fun-holiday hating people who would like nothing better than for everyone to be unhappy. Wronggg! This holiday season isn’t all about religion, as much as some people would like it to be, its about family and giving and being with people you love and having a good time. I mean, Christmas isn’t all religious anyways… Santa sure as hell wasn’t in the Bible. So atheists such as myself aren’t trying to be a Grinch and stop Christmas… we just look at the holiday in a more logical sense than those that actually think a virgin has God’s baby.

]]> By: muggle http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402507 muggle Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:50:13 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402507 <blockquote>Are there t-shirts that say “Soldier in the War on Christmas”? I totally want one.</blockquote> Me too! I want several so I have a clean one every day between Thanksgiving and December 25. Perhaps in several different colors? Anything but red or green. :D I'd wear it with pride. Enough with this nonsense already!

Are there t-shirts that say “Soldier in the War on Christmas”? I totally want one.

Me too! I want several so I have a clean one every day between Thanksgiving and December 25. Perhaps in several different colors? Anything but red or green. :D

I’d wear it with pride. Enough with this nonsense already!

]]> By: hoverfrog http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2009/11/27/fox-news-angry-at-lack-of-religious-displays-in-washington-state-capitol/#comment-402326 hoverfrog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:40:33 +0000 http://friendlyatheist.com/?p=18867#comment-402326 The Christmas tree is pagan of course. It is from the Germanic Yule celebration. I wouldn't want a pagan symbol up or a Christian one or a Jewish or Hindu or... or ... except I agree that the tree is a secular tree. We should embrace that and make it our own. For the lols. The Christmas tree is pagan of course. It is from the Germanic Yule celebration. I wouldn’t want a pagan symbol up or a Christian one or a Jewish or Hindu or… or … except I agree that the tree is a secular tree. We should embrace that and make it our own. For the lols.

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