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	<title>Comments on: Laura Ingraham and Annie Laurie Gaylor Argue Over Winter Billboards</title>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH how very painful.  I was ready to finish at 2.5 minutes, but felt It wouldn&#039;t be prudent to leave remarks without hearing the entire conversation.

First, Jussi, I will give you that I&#039;m not thrilled with the billboards either.  I feel they are a bit hateful.  However, considering there are people in the world such as Laura... maybe the billboards are meant to jolt their daily thinking?


Second, I REALLY prefer to utilize words that convey thoughtful thinking, not just spurred from emotion.  WOW, it&#039;s hard though &amp; I&#039;m going to go with the FC for Laura.  After debate, I determined she does seem to encompass this word, in my views only of course ;).

Third, As for needing a ROCKY representative.. I see the point, however isn&#039;t that what Laura was hoping for?  Someone to lose their cool &amp; begin spewing dogma back?

Lastly... This just helps to reinstate what I feel of Laura Ingraham.  She&#039;s full of hate &amp; utilizes the media to share her views.  POST racial tensions that recently made her say she&#039;ll FINALLY get out of broadcasting her show.  YEAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH how very painful.  I was ready to finish at 2.5 minutes, but felt It wouldn&#8217;t be prudent to leave remarks without hearing the entire conversation.</p>
<p>First, Jussi, I will give you that I&#8217;m not thrilled with the billboards either.  I feel they are a bit hateful.  However, considering there are people in the world such as Laura&#8230; maybe the billboards are meant to jolt their daily thinking?</p>
<p>Second, I REALLY prefer to utilize words that convey thoughtful thinking, not just spurred from emotion.  WOW, it&#8217;s hard though &amp; I&#8217;m going to go with the FC for Laura.  After debate, I determined she does seem to encompass this word, in my views only of course <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Third, As for needing a ROCKY representative.. I see the point, however isn&#8217;t that what Laura was hoping for?  Someone to lose their cool &amp; begin spewing dogma back?</p>
<p>Lastly&#8230; This just helps to reinstate what I feel of Laura Ingraham.  She&#8217;s full of hate &amp; utilizes the media to share her views.  POST racial tensions that recently made her say she&#8217;ll FINALLY get out of broadcasting her show.  YEAH!</p>
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		<title>By: jussi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jussi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The billboards were condescending and hateful. 

I don&#039;t have a problem with atheists with challenging laws they believe are unconstitutional but ridiculing and provoking believers does not advance the atheist cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The billboards were condescending and hateful. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with atheists with challenging laws they believe are unconstitutional but ridiculing and provoking believers does not advance the atheist cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else notice how, in tripping over her words at 2:38, Ingraham slipped in &quot;You&#039;re a freak&quot;?

Yeah, the liberal and freethinking side will never look good as long as we&#039;re represented by soft-looking people like Anna Laurie, Alan Colmes, and the lisping Fred Edwords.  The Fox News audience loves the square jaw and bullying tone.  Some day we need to send in a Unitarian Democratic version of Rocky Balboa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else notice how, in tripping over her words at 2:38, Ingraham slipped in &#8220;You&#8217;re a freak&#8221;?</p>
<p>Yeah, the liberal and freethinking side will never look good as long as we&#8217;re represented by soft-looking people like Anna Laurie, Alan Colmes, and the lisping Fred Edwords.  The Fox News audience loves the square jaw and bullying tone.  Some day we need to send in a Unitarian Democratic version of Rocky Balboa.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you expect Ingraham to do?  People put signs up next to Christmas trees that basically said, &quot;Your god is bullshit and you are an idiot.&quot;  I would be pissed off too. 

As an avowed atheist, the only way I could possibly be as offended would be if I were walking in the mall, looking at a Christmas tree, and some Christian lunatic came up to me, yelled at me, and told me I wasn&#039;t allowed to look at the tree because I&#039;m a sinner, a pagan, a piece of shit, etc etc etc.

No one is offended by Friendly Atheists.  What those people did, however, was decidedly mean-spirited and unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did you expect Ingraham to do?  People put signs up next to Christmas trees that basically said, &#8220;Your god is bullshit and you are an idiot.&#8221;  I would be pissed off too. </p>
<p>As an avowed atheist, the only way I could possibly be as offended would be if I were walking in the mall, looking at a Christmas tree, and some Christian lunatic came up to me, yelled at me, and told me I wasn&#8217;t allowed to look at the tree because I&#8217;m a sinner, a pagan, a piece of shit, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>No one is offended by Friendly Atheists.  What those people did, however, was decidedly mean-spirited and unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie Laurie did pretty well i thought,agaist this rabid bloodhound anyway.Annie Laurie handled the situation calm.
Sure it would have been nice if Annie jumped in on the charity issue,and reminded Laura Ingraham that though atheists think there is likely no god!athiest still do believe in charity.And if Laura was worried the charity might stop without the false faith,that was really more a problem the faithful need to be very concerned about.As it suggests maybe faith charity is more about pride and fame and earning browny points for the afterlife.

No i thought Annie looked very natural and respectful in the face of great ignorance and disrespect.And the way she handled the situation was a high example and a great credit to the attitude of atheism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie Laurie did pretty well i thought,agaist this rabid bloodhound anyway.Annie Laurie handled the situation calm.<br />
Sure it would have been nice if Annie jumped in on the charity issue,and reminded Laura Ingraham that though atheists think there is likely no god!athiest still do believe in charity.And if Laura was worried the charity might stop without the false faith,that was really more a problem the faithful need to be very concerned about.As it suggests maybe faith charity is more about pride and fame and earning browny points for the afterlife.</p>
<p>No i thought Annie looked very natural and respectful in the face of great ignorance and disrespect.And the way she handled the situation was a high example and a great credit to the attitude of atheism.</p>
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		<title>By: chaoticneutral</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaoticneutral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh. This was painful to watch. It was like watching Bill O&#039;Reilly lambaste Richard Dawkins a while back.

What really irritates me about this sort of behavior is that Dawkins and Gaylor were *INVITED AS GUESTS* on these programs, actually believing they&#039;d be given a chance to speak when the true intentions of O&#039;Reilly and Ingraham were to just insult, belittle and ridicule them on national television so they and everyone who agrees with them can feel smug and superior to the godless atheists.

Do you think they&#039;re ever going to figure out that when you&#039;re cutting off and shouting down your invited guests, you&#039;re not reporting anymore, you&#039;re attacking? Do they realize they are showing the world what narrow-minded asses they are? Or do they do it on purpose because they think all their viewers are just ignorant sheeple who gleefully eat that crap up? Probably it&#039;s all of the above.

I dunno. I see so many things that make me roll my eyes so much I&#039;m afraid they&#039;ll fall right out and roll away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. This was painful to watch. It was like watching Bill O&#8217;Reilly lambaste Richard Dawkins a while back.</p>
<p>What really irritates me about this sort of behavior is that Dawkins and Gaylor were *INVITED AS GUESTS* on these programs, actually believing they&#8217;d be given a chance to speak when the true intentions of O&#8217;Reilly and Ingraham were to just insult, belittle and ridicule them on national television so they and everyone who agrees with them can feel smug and superior to the godless atheists.</p>
<p>Do you think they&#8217;re ever going to figure out that when you&#8217;re cutting off and shouting down your invited guests, you&#8217;re not reporting anymore, you&#8217;re attacking? Do they realize they are showing the world what narrow-minded asses they are? Or do they do it on purpose because they think all their viewers are just ignorant sheeple who gleefully eat that crap up? Probably it&#8217;s all of the above.</p>
<p>I dunno. I see so many things that make me roll my eyes so much I&#8217;m afraid they&#8217;ll fall right out and roll away.</p>
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		<title>By: muggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duke, there is no &quot;God&quot; -- and I&#039;m frankly pissed there aren&#039;t more Atheists with the balls to say so.  Are you this wishy-washy about the Easter Bunny?  I&#039;m fucking sick of being afraid to state the obvious.

Annie Laurie wasn&#039;t at her best but she was good given that every time she opened her mouth, this woman started screaming.  Seriously, how do you make yourself heard in that situation?  Get into a shouting match?  I think it&#039;s way better that Annie Laurie kept her cool and came off as the more rational of the two.


That fucking bitch about the charity thing.  I&#039;ll give her one that&#039;ll fuck with her stereotype:  my Atheist daughter works for Catholic Charities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duke, there is no &#8220;God&#8221; &#8212; and I&#8217;m frankly pissed there aren&#8217;t more Atheists with the balls to say so.  Are you this wishy-washy about the Easter Bunny?  I&#8217;m fucking sick of being afraid to state the obvious.</p>
<p>Annie Laurie wasn&#8217;t at her best but she was good given that every time she opened her mouth, this woman started screaming.  Seriously, how do you make yourself heard in that situation?  Get into a shouting match?  I think it&#8217;s way better that Annie Laurie kept her cool and came off as the more rational of the two.</p>
<p>That fucking bitch about the charity thing.  I&#8217;ll give her one that&#8217;ll fuck with her stereotype:  my Atheist daughter works for Catholic Charities.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone get a running count of the numerous logical and argumentative fallacies by Ingrham?  I lost count after 12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone get a running count of the numerous logical and argumentative fallacies by Ingrham?  I lost count after 12</p>
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		<title>By: We Are The 801</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Are The 801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“You almost said it!” – Condescending in that Laura plays it as if Annie Laurie doesn’t actually believe what’s shes saying, and can slip into “honesty” at any moment. Laura’s excited that she almost TRICKED Annie Laurie. Why does tricking someone into saying something have validity?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She used the &quot;trick&quot; to &quot;hide the decline&quot; of Christianity... (sorry, couldn&#039;t resist)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“You almost said it!” – Condescending in that Laura plays it as if Annie Laurie doesn’t actually believe what’s shes saying, and can slip into “honesty” at any moment. Laura’s excited that she almost TRICKED Annie Laurie. Why does tricking someone into saying something have validity?</p></blockquote>
<p>She used the &#8220;trick&#8221; to &#8220;hide the decline&#8221; of Christianity&#8230; (sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist)</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised there are so few people who think that Annie Laurie did NOT do a good job.

I agree with the above comment that it seems quite useless to send atheist representatives to FOX. But if you ARE going to do so, you have to know who to send, and Annie Laurie Gaylor is NOT the person you want to send to the lion&#039;s den.

I don&#039;t think you can win an argument against an ignorant fool like Inghram anyway, but I&#039;m definitely bothered my many of Annie Laurie&#039;s answers:

1. She dodges the first question, (which was already mentioned above by Tony), and goes straight to talking points.

2. &lt;em&gt;&quot;Are these signs meant to provoke?&quot;
   &quot;They&#039;re meant to say something true. That they&#039;re isn&#039;t a God.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;

Arrrgh! Ok. For years I&#039;ve tried to fight the stigma that atheists do not claim to KNOW there is no god; that we just don&#039;t believe in claims of the existence of gods. Now, here is a &#039;representative&#039; of atheist beliefs, saying that there is no God, and it&#039;s the truth. I know the FFRF likes to stir up controversy to get some attention. I realize it&#039;s what you have to do these days to get on the news. But please, not at the expense of our rational arguments and reasons for our beliefs.
This is the main reason I don&#039;t support the FFRF. They ride with the whole &#039;There is no God&#039; theme that indeed makes them sound dogmatic.
That sign they put up in Washington embarrasses me as an atheist, and I wish they could stick to more positive, yet direct and controversial ads like the humanist bus ads.

Just my 2 cents.

Greetings from Finland!

Duke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised there are so few people who think that Annie Laurie did NOT do a good job.</p>
<p>I agree with the above comment that it seems quite useless to send atheist representatives to FOX. But if you ARE going to do so, you have to know who to send, and Annie Laurie Gaylor is NOT the person you want to send to the lion&#8217;s den.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can win an argument against an ignorant fool like Inghram anyway, but I&#8217;m definitely bothered my many of Annie Laurie&#8217;s answers:</p>
<p>1. She dodges the first question, (which was already mentioned above by Tony), and goes straight to talking points.</p>
<p>2. <em>&#8220;Are these signs meant to provoke?&#8221;<br />
   &#8220;They&#8217;re meant to say something true. That they&#8217;re isn&#8217;t a God.&#8221;<br />
</em></p>
<p>Arrrgh! Ok. For years I&#8217;ve tried to fight the stigma that atheists do not claim to KNOW there is no god; that we just don&#8217;t believe in claims of the existence of gods. Now, here is a &#8216;representative&#8217; of atheist beliefs, saying that there is no God, and it&#8217;s the truth. I know the FFRF likes to stir up controversy to get some attention. I realize it&#8217;s what you have to do these days to get on the news. But please, not at the expense of our rational arguments and reasons for our beliefs.<br />
This is the main reason I don&#8217;t support the FFRF. They ride with the whole &#8216;There is no God&#8217; theme that indeed makes them sound dogmatic.<br />
That sign they put up in Washington embarrasses me as an atheist, and I wish they could stick to more positive, yet direct and controversial ads like the humanist bus ads.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
<p>Greetings from Finland!</p>
<p>Duke</p>
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