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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431597</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlie</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431515</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I was introduced to Tim&#039;s stuff via his Christmas song, this was the very next song I found and I thought it was fantastic. (In third place? Storm.) 

muggle, I think the opposite (as Greta said better) - it&#039;s a fantastic love song. It acknowledges the randomness inherent in finding someone special and that there are probably other people who are better than his wife in all sorts of ways he would find attractive; yet, he does love her and they&#039;ve built something together and she is special. The last part of the song acknowledges how much he loves her. It&#039;s a lot more solid view of love than goopy romantic &quot;you&#039;re the only one for me&quot;, because everyone knows that&#039;s not true and as soon as the newness wears off it won&#039;t be the same. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s &quot;I&#039;d have no problem replacing you&quot; at all; it was that he could have easily ended up with someone else, but he&#039;s glad it was her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I was introduced to Tim&#8217;s stuff via his Christmas song, this was the very next song I found and I thought it was fantastic. (In third place? Storm.) </p>
<p>muggle, I think the opposite (as Greta said better) &#8211; it&#8217;s a fantastic love song. It acknowledges the randomness inherent in finding someone special and that there are probably other people who are better than his wife in all sorts of ways he would find attractive; yet, he does love her and they&#8217;ve built something together and she is special. The last part of the song acknowledges how much he loves her. It&#8217;s a lot more solid view of love than goopy romantic &#8220;you&#8217;re the only one for me&#8221;, because everyone knows that&#8217;s not true and as soon as the newness wears off it won&#8217;t be the same. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;d have no problem replacing you&#8221; at all; it was that he could have easily ended up with someone else, but he&#8217;s glad it was her.</p>
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		<title>By: muggle</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431503</link>
		<dc:creator>muggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, how romantic of him.  I&#039;ll agree that love builds over time and that there&#039;s no mystical, magical someone for everyone soulmate (what soul?) but that was really rather the opposite extreme?  Well, you&#039;ll do but I have no problem replacing you.

How about I love you, chose you because you&#039;re great?  That doesn&#039;t apply no one else will do.  Only that you find them Grade A select.

I was really glad I wasn&#039;t his wife listening to that.

But then, even though I think Valentine&#039;s Day is great, I really don&#039;t care to build anything over time with anyone.  I always outlast the guy in the afraid to commit department -- when I do date.  Mostly I choose not to.  It&#039;s too much work.  And looking back I&#039;ve always been happier alone than when I was with someone.

So I guess I can&#039;t point fingers because I have an even crappier outlook towards romance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, how romantic of him.  I&#8217;ll agree that love builds over time and that there&#8217;s no mystical, magical someone for everyone soulmate (what soul?) but that was really rather the opposite extreme?  Well, you&#8217;ll do but I have no problem replacing you.</p>
<p>How about I love you, chose you because you&#8217;re great?  That doesn&#8217;t apply no one else will do.  Only that you find them Grade A select.</p>
<p>I was really glad I wasn&#8217;t his wife listening to that.</p>
<p>But then, even though I think Valentine&#8217;s Day is great, I really don&#8217;t care to build anything over time with anyone.  I always outlast the guy in the afraid to commit department &#8212; when I do date.  Mostly I choose not to.  It&#8217;s too much work.  And looking back I&#8217;ve always been happier alone than when I was with someone.</p>
<p>So I guess I can&#8217;t point fingers because I have an even crappier outlook towards romance.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpha Bitch</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431385</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpha Bitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Greta. &quot;Love at first sight&quot; is attributable to hormones and horniness. Real love builds over time and stands stronger through the rough patches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Greta. &#8220;Love at first sight&#8221; is attributable to hormones and horniness. Real love builds over time and stands stronger through the rough patches.</p>
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		<title>By: AxeGrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431341</link>
		<dc:creator>AxeGrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greta Christina wrote: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t want to think of love as something that happened to us. I much prefer to think of it as something we do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You just &lt;i&gt;nailed&lt;/i&gt; it Greta! :)  beautifully said....

I always say that the &lt;i&gt;verb&lt;/i&gt; form of the word &#039;love&#039; should be treasured/nurtured more than the &lt;i&gt;noun&lt;/i&gt; form.

Loving someone is something you &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; more than just what you &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greta Christina wrote: </p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t want to think of love as something that happened to us. I much prefer to think of it as something we do.</p></blockquote>
<p>You just <i>nailed</i> it Greta! <img src='http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   beautifully said&#8230;.</p>
<p>I always say that the <i>verb</i> form of the word &#8216;love&#8217; should be treasured/nurtured more than the <i>noun</i> form.</p>
<p>Loving someone is something you <i>do</i> more than just what you <i>feel</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimpatsu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimpatsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roses are red, violets are blue
Valentine&#039;s Day is consumerist bullshit
So dont you have some ironing and washing up to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roses are red, violets are blue<br />
Valentine&#8217;s Day is consumerist bullshit<br />
So dont you have some ironing and washing up to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Greta Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greta Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That said, this song probably isn’t the best one to sing in romantic situations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, Ingrid and I love this song, and we both find it very romantic. For quite a while after she first played it for me, &quot;You fall within a bell curve&quot; became one of our most common endearments.

I actually think it&#039;s a more romantic sentiment than the standard &quot;We are fated for one another&quot; bullcrap. I don&#039;t want to think of love as something that happened to us. I much prefer to think of it as something we do. The idea that she has to love me because she has no choice... pleah. The idea that she chooses to love me and to stay with me and to make me the most important person in her life -- that&#039;s way better. (And vice versa, of course.)

I&#039;ve written more about this, if anyone&#039;s interested: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2009/06/a-skeptics-view-of-love.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Skeptic&#039;s View of Love&lt;/a&gt;. (Sorry for the self-linkage, but it really is relevant.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That said, this song probably isn’t the best one to sing in romantic situations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, Ingrid and I love this song, and we both find it very romantic. For quite a while after she first played it for me, &#8220;You fall within a bell curve&#8221; became one of our most common endearments.</p>
<p>I actually think it&#8217;s a more romantic sentiment than the standard &#8220;We are fated for one another&#8221; bullcrap. I don&#8217;t want to think of love as something that happened to us. I much prefer to think of it as something we do. The idea that she has to love me because she has no choice&#8230; pleah. The idea that she chooses to love me and to stay with me and to make me the most important person in her life &#8212; that&#8217;s way better. (And vice versa, of course.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written more about this, if anyone&#8217;s interested: <a href="http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2009/06/a-skeptics-view-of-love.html" rel="nofollow">A Skeptic&#8217;s View of Love</a>. (Sorry for the self-linkage, but it really is relevant.)</p>
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		<title>By: hoverfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/02/12/tim-minchin-on-marriage-and-fate/#comment-431238</link>
		<dc:creator>hoverfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m sure I’ve said stupider things, but I can’t think of them off the top of my head.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Foot in mouth and selective memory.  Tsk!

Lyrics ==&gt; http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/tim_minchin/if_i_didnt_have_you.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m sure I’ve said stupider things, but I can’t think of them off the top of my head.</p></blockquote>
<p>Foot in mouth and selective memory.  Tsk!</p>
<p>Lyrics ==&gt; <a href="http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/tim_minchin/if_i_didnt_have_you.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/tim_minchin/if_i_didnt_have_you.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s said his wife hated the song, he tried explaining that it wasn&#039;t a song about her, it was a song about maths.

I don&#039;t believe it worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s said his wife hated the song, he tried explaining that it wasn&#8217;t a song about her, it was a song about maths.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To echo Rebecca, my environment is not conducive to playing audio, and I&#039;m always gracious to those who write up transcripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To echo Rebecca, my environment is not conducive to playing audio, and I&#8217;m always gracious to those who write up transcripts.</p>
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