My “lack of education” was only that I thought all IUDs were hormonal. That seems to be the only scientific fact I was incorrect about, I apologize and now I know; regardless it doesn’t negatively effect my arguments in any way.

My entire point is that she does not need a reason to have the abortion. If she wants an abortion, fine. If she doesn’t want an abortion, that is also fine. When she creates a laundry list of “good” reasons and likely exaggerates many of those reasons; it undermines the entire purpose of making the abortion public. It turns what could have been a profound pro-choice statement into an attention whoring charade that actually supports pro-life arguments. Those arguments are that people who have abortions are selfish and lazy, her list of reasons equated to her being selfish and lazy. She should not have provided reasons, she needed only 1 reason. That reason is “I do not want to have a child.” end of story.

And what constitutes as a “selfish” abortion versus a “non-selfish” abortion? Please clarify this for me. If you are pro-choice, there are no selfish reasons to having an abortion because that right to abortion should be included in your personal freedoms–it’s all the same, like your right to choose eating at Subway versus Burger King or what music to listen to. The only people who feel abortion is a selfish decision are pro-lifers. Are you pro-life? Your lack of education on these matters and selfish accusations certainly seem to suggest so…might you be the one deluding yourself into thinking you are simply a pro-choicer with a bleeding heart for women’s choices (but, you know, only the non-selfish choices as judged by you)?

I don’t believe she is some sort of master mind fabricating lies. I think she is being dishonest with herself. Anyone can come up with a million reasons why having a kid isn’t a good idea. My point is that she shouldn’t use these reasons as an excuse. She is not carrying the child to term for 1 reason only: she doesn’t want to do it. The only 3 acceptable reasons to have an abortion are:
1. You dont want a kid,
2. The birth would kill the mother,
3. The fetus has severe birth defects.

By exaggerating her medical reasons and being dishonest with herself about her reasoning she has invalidated much of the point of the entire episode. Pro-Choice needs a face that says it is a CHOICE, not a laundry list of excuses as to why abortion is a good idea. A list of excuses only validates pro-lifer claims that the choice to abort a pregnancy is selfish and immature.

I also happen to think most of the excuses she made sound selfish, immature, or exaggerated. If she had simply been honest with herself and in turn us, it would have been a much more profound situation. “Omg, a woman had an abortion simply because she wanted to. Now that is refreshing.” instead if is another “Whoopty do, another selfish women is making a bunch of lame excuses as to why she had to have an abortion.”

The excuse “I just don’t feel like myself lately” is just ridiculous. It makes her appear childish and selfish.

I do agree that she made the wise and mature decision to abort the pregnancy. What I obviously don’t agree with is what she said after she made it public.

I suspect that she did, indeed, do this with good intentions and upon being greeted with both supportive words from other women as well as harrassment and threats from anti-choicers, began to enjoy the attention as well (she probably was gaining both justification for her decision via receiving support AND gaining affirmation for the importance of her decision upon reading the regurgitated, often unresearchered comments from anti-choicers). This, of course, is just my speculation….

I think it’s perfectly acceptable to assume that by offering her extended reasoning behind having the abortion (horrible first pregnancy, doctor’s advice, special needs child) she felt a little less scared in the process of broadcasting her experience–at least based on the assumption that people would be more forgiving of abortions linked to medical advice (which, we have obviously learned, still isn’t good enough for the anti-choice community). I don’t see what’s so wrong with even self-assured people being scared, and I’m not grasping your reasonings on why we should assume that she is somehow lying about her experiences with her first pregnancy or that she has fabricated medical advice from her doctor. Skepticism is indeed a great skill to possess, yes, but how does skepticism for her reasonings behind her decision in any way change the implications of what she’s done? Her abortion story is out there now regardless…

@Karen: As an introvert, I simply do not understand what you are talking about. No one is forcing you to publicly document YOUR hypothetical abortion, but other women should have the freedom of voice to do so if they choose. Don’t want to know about it? Don’t read it, watch it or talk about it.

I would say what I am doing is the exact opposite of what many religious people do. I am considering the possibilities of a situation and selecting the most logical one in my eyes.

Now a few of you are suggesting I do exactly what religious sheep do. –Accept what I read as fact.
–Assume Angie is a true altruist (seems like her and Jesus are the only 2 ever)
–Hold my tongue because it conflicts with what YOU want to be true.
–Support any and all atheists regardless of my own opinions of them.

I would rather not do any of those things.

quite honestly I enjoy judging people.

Okay, why didn’t you say so before? Now we know why you’re doing your best to slander Angie in public based on scant evidence: because you enjoy it.

I know that some of us might associate that kind of behavior with the very Christianity that we have rejected, but I do know that @$$holes can come from all religions (and sometimes none at all). So I’m glad that we settled that.

Otherwise, I’ll just second what MikeTheInfidel said; I really appreciate you using your psychic abilities here to read Angie’s thoughts and share them with the rest of us.

You all seem to be mistaking my opinion for facts. The only fact is that we don’t know what is going on inside Angie’s head and we can only speculate. These are my speculations. Am I correct? I obviously think so but, I could be wrong too.

A lot of people are dishonest and they enjoy fame. Angie certainly has gotten 15 minutes of fame for a somewhat trivial medical procedure because she choose to make known to the world the finer details of it. I suppose it is a possible she is completely altruistic in this situation and truly doing it for the betterment of women everywhere. I find it more likely that she is doing it because he attention is very fun for her and despite the fact that abortions are not fun for anyone, she has found a way to make hers quite enjoyable (compared to other abortions I mean). This doesn’t sound so far fetched to me.

At this point I think the 2 options are that she is a true altruist (unlikely and according to some theorists, impossible) or she is enjoying the attention. I think the logical choice is that she enjoys the attention.

Assuming she is doing this (by this I mean making her abortion public) because she is enjoying the attention, we then have to look at her motives. I think the “enjoying the attention” part gives her plenty of motivation to exaggerate or create motives for having the abortion.

To clarify, I think her having the abortion is perfectly fine. I also think that her decision to have the abortion was not motivated by fame.

However, her decision to gain some notoriety out of the situation does carry some baggage that would motivate her to have a “good” reason to have an abortion. If someone tole me I was a baby killer, I suppose I might sleep better at night by giving them a sound reason for killing said baby (she isn’t a baby killer at all, but this is a hypothetical). Exaggerating the medical issues, exaggerate your overall well being (depressed? who isnt?), create excuses about your life style, etc..

I think my conclusion is perfectly logical but it could also be wrong. I just feel that she isn’t being completely honest to appease the nay-sayers.