Tea Party Jesus!

What happens when you combine the words of Christian Tea Partiers with paintings of Christ?

Tea Party Jesus!

All the pictures on the site link to a source citing the Tea Partier who said the words.

It’s an important point to drive home: The Tea Party members who are Christians say things that would sound just plain silly if they were said by Jesus. Are they smart enough to see that disconnect…?

Brilliant concept. (Why didn’t any of you think of it first?)

(Thanks to Alan for the link!)

  • Dyl

    I think that it would be important to point out that these are not pictures of Jesus, they are paintings. He’s looking kind of pale, by the way…

    I don’t think they had cameras back then–maybe they did, who knows?

  • Autumnal Harvest

    The Tea Party members who are Christians say things that would sound just plain silly if they were said by Jesus.

    Why would these sound silly if they were said by Jesus? I mean, they sound sort of silly because they’re anachronistic, but you seem to be assuming that if Jesus was alive today, he’d be a supporter of Obama and of feminism, and I’m not sure why you’d believe that.

    • http://profiles.google.com/mepowell813 Mark Powell

      How about they’d sound funny coming from Jesus because, theoretically, he was for tolerance and compassion and these comments are about bigotry and hate. But then, the Right seems to think hating minorities and women is normal, so I guess they wouldn’t see anything wrong there.

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Hemant Mehta

    Dyl — Good point. I’ve changed the word “pictures” to “paintings”

  • Alan E.

    you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year.

    Sure sounds like something Jesus wouldn’t say. Or:

    At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator’s house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?

    It’s not about being a supporter of one agenda or the other. It’s about supporting what you actually preach. Many people say they are living as Jesus would, but their speech and actions are completely out of line of that reality. Instead of looking at it as “Obamaism” or “feminism,” look at the broader messages that incite hatred, fear, violence, inequality, etc.

  • Andrew Morgan

    I think this is highly disingenuous. Most of the quotes are from Beck, Limbaugh, and Coulter, who are certainly wacky and right-wing, but you’re wrong if you think they represent either the Tea Party movement or the right generally.

    Hating the Tea Party movement is fashionable these days, except that anyone who views them as a monolithic blog of knuckle-dragging conservative Republican men is in for a surprise.

    For instance, 28% of Americans support the movement, while 26% oppose it and 38% are neutral. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/90613-poll-28-of-americans-support-tea-party)

    Polls on the composition of the movement vary, with some putting Democratic and Independent members of the group at 40% (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie).

    The Christian Science Monitor ran a story saying that the movement has “slipped into the mainstream,” and mentions that more than half of members are women (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0403/Amid-harsh-criticisms-tea-party-slips-into-the-mainstream)

    - Andrew, Republican Atheist

    Edit: my point isn’t meant to suggest that Hemant is making these assumptions, so much as to provide a little more context.

  • idioteque

    LOL – great concept, its “WWJD?” with a twist!

  • Jen

    AH has a good point. Who is to say what 2000 year old Jesus would think? He was fairly apolitical- I think we would have a hard enough time dividing Founding Fathers or Ancient Romans into our modern political system,* much less an illiterate Jewish man in a dress who thought the world was about to end 2000 years ago.

    *We would totally be great at guessing Egyptians, though. Hatshepsut would be an awesome Democratic Senator, but she would be booted for sex scandals. Meanwhile, her brother/husband would be a one-term member of the school board.

  • Richard P.

    “what 2000 year old Jesus would think?”

    I believe he would be thinking…

    Frac me, I wish someone would pull the plug already.

  • qatheist

    Pretty snarky to put 21st century socio-political commentary in the mouth of a person who ‘lived’ about 20 centuries ago, who spoke aramaic (which doesn’t translate into any western language well at all), had little concept of politics as we know it, and had only his Jewish upbringing as a knowledge base. It’s like giving any credibility to the WWJD thing.

    The so called ‘Tea Partyers’ spout drivel and lies, innuendo and leading statements they leeched from *ssholes like Sean Hannity (they can’t think for themselves – it’s obvious!)
    The quotes attached to familiar-looking characterizations of the figure someone wants us to think about as looking like the ‘Jesus’ person are similar – they make no sense in context, and are based on made-up thoughts. Cute in a perfectly fictionalized world.

  • http://onestdv.blogspot.com OneSTDV

    The Tea Party is almost an entirely secular movement with only mild concern afforded to social issues.

    Yes, many of the people happen to be Christian, but almost everyone in the Democratic Party also happens to be Christian.

    As for the actual quotes above, what exactly is so bad? The Obamas are members of an elite class (Princeton, Harvard Law, both attorneys, now live in the White House) and Obama isn’t exactly the most humble of individuals. As for the other quote, the current third-wave feminist agenda is far removed from the mere gender equity concerns of their forebearers.

  • Kris

    I can’t help but notice that, for a Palastinian, that Jesus has rather Anglican features…

  • Matto the Hun

    DYL & Hemant

    “picture” does not equal photo.

    One can paint a picture after all.

    duh.

    It was fine the first time.

  • Jerad

    though nobody better dare claim they are daguerreotypes!

  • Neon Genesis

    “The Tea Party is almost an entirely secular movement with only mild concern afforded to social issues.”

    You mean besides using the health care reform to try and ban abortion and claiming Obama is a secret Muslim from Kenya?

  • Matto the Hun

    daguerreotypes! Don’t even get me started… actually I’m certain that’s something Tea Party Jesus talked about.

  • http://gusonthought.blogspot.com v2keener

    Tea Partiers invoking Poe’s Law. Not surprised.

  • Miko

    The pictures here are from quotations by Rep. Westmoreland and Rush Limbaugh, neither of whom is associated with the Tea Protest movement. I haven’t looked at all of the pictures on the linked site, but, of all the ones that I did check, none were from Tea Partiers. This is really “conservative Christians saying stupid things,” not “Tea Partiers.”

    This is an important distinction: most of the Tea Partiers are well-meaning individuals who have lost jobs or suffered other hardships due to the economic policies of Obama (and as such have legitimate reasons to be angry, even if they express themselves in stupid ways), and, since most of them are on the lower end of the formal education spectrum, it’s really in bad taste to make fun of them, even when they say a lot of stupid things. Limbaugh, on the other hand, is most definitely fair game.

    Neon: You mean besides using the health care reform to try and ban abortion

    Last I checked, neither Stupak nor any of the legions of Democrats that agreed to his Faustian bargain were either Republicans or Tea Partiers. Also, “try and” is a nonstandard usage. You mean “try to.”

  • http://onestdv.blogspot.com OneSTDV

    @ Neon:

    You’re conflating the mainstream Republican party with the Tea Party movement.

    And about Obama being a Muslim: well he’s certainly lying about being a devout Christian. From his own words, I’m almost 100% convinced he’s a waffling agnostic.

    So the incredulity concerning his Christianity is warranted. But far more telling, he was registered as a Muslim until around age 12 in Indonesia where he was raised by his nominally Muslim step-father. He also once said that “the Muslim call to pray is one of the most beautiful sounds on Earth”.

    Now I don’t believe Obama is a Muslim, but I don’t think its outlandish to question his Christianity. Especially in the context of his mother being an atheist and thus providing him with almost no push towards Christianity herself.

  • Neon Genesis

    “Last I checked, neither Stupak nor any of the legions of Democrats that agreed to his Faustian bargain were either Republicans or Tea Partiers. Also, “try and” is a nonstandard usage. You mean “try to.”

    That doesn’t change the fact that many Tea Partiers supported the anti-abortion language and threatened Stupak with violence because he didn’t push for an anti-abortion enough bill.

    “And about Obama being a Muslim: well he’s certainly lying about being a devout Christian. From his own words, I’m almost 100% convinced he’s a waffling agnostic.”

    This says more about what you consider to be devout than it does Obama’s faith. The concept of moderate Christianity is obviously lost on you.\

    “So the incredulity concerning his Christianity is warranted. But far more telling, he was registered as a Muslim until around age 12 in Indonesia where he was raised by his nominally Muslim step-father. He also once said that “the Muslim call to pray is one of the most beautiful sounds on Earth”.”

    Please use facts and reason instead of putting faith in Republican propaganda. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html

  • Betsy

    Gee whiz, talk about horse-beating. Cute concept, period.

  • http://selfra.blogspot.com dantresomi

    lol!
    silly is what silly does… or was I supposed to use a different adjective.

  • http://miketheinfidel.blogspot.com/ MikeTheInfidel

    Miko:

    … most of the Tea Partiers are well-meaning individuals who have lost jobs or suffered other hardships due to the economic policies of Obama…

    I’m sorry, but that’s complete and utter horseshit. These are the same kind of people who were shouting for his death at the McCain/Palin rallies. They were angry before he was elected, and if they lost their jobs, it sure as hell wasn’t because of anything he did in the first year of his presidency. The Tea Party protests started early last year, WELL BEFORE anything Obama did could affect them.

    It was not Obama’s policies that caused the economic meltdown that would have cost anyone their jobs.

  • http://onestdv.blogspot.com OneSTDV

    I never said Obama attended a Muslim school. I said he was registered as a Muslim at his Indonesian school. In Indonesia, all students are registered as a religion when they attend even secular schools.

    As for what Obama is: No, he’s not a moderate Christian. See this quote. Imagine this quote outside his proclamations of Christian devoutness:

    “I wondered whether I should have told [my daughter] the truth, that I wasn’t sure what happens when we die, any more than I was sure of where the soul resides or what existed before the Big Bang.”

    Come on. That’s the words of an agnostic, not even a moderate Christian. A moderate Christian says: I believe that Jesus died for my sins, but occasionally my faith wavers in time of need.”

    You can read more here:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_religious_ruse_ive_alwa.html

    Yes it’s right-wing, but the sources are Obama’s own quotes. It also includes protestations that he’s a Marxist, but ignore those parts of the article. It includes this:

    Without intent, he corroborated this in a 2007 New York Times interview: with a first-rate Arabic accent Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer and remarked that it is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.”[5] These lines chant the confession of faith committing one to Islam: the declaration of Allah’s supremacy, that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is his prophet.[6]

  • Valdyr

    I could read from the text of a Hitler speech with a first-rate German accent. My last name is kind of German-sounding.

    COULD I BE A SECRET NAZI?!

  • Valdyr

    Also, OneSTDV, the point of the first quote went way over your head. Hint: it wasn’t the part that suggests the Obamas are elitists that’s the most questionable.

  • Chris

    The idea of Jesus speaking in a modern, non-poetic manner is funny, in itself.

  • Neon Genesis

    “I never said Obama attended a Muslim school. I said he was registered as a Muslim at his Indonesian school. In Indonesia, all students are registered as a religion when they attend even secular schools.”

    From the article, “The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn’t sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

    “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim,” Gibbs said. “As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism.”

    “As for what Obama is: No, he’s not a moderate Christian. See this quote. Imagine this quote outside his proclamations of Christian devoutness”

    You’ve obviously never heard of Bishop Spong before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XL8LvaJ9Rc

    “Yes it’s right-wing, but the sources are Obama’s own quotes. It also includes protestations that he’s a Marxist, but ignore those parts of the article. It includes this:”

    So, he thinks a Muslim prayer sounds pretty? So what? There’s passages in the Koran I like too but that doesn’t make me a Muslim unless you think all non-Muslims should hate everything about Muslims and you can never say anything nice about Islam unless you’re a Muslim, which again, says more about you than Obama. I don’t get what your point is. Are you trying to argue Obama is a Muslim agnostic? That makes no logical sense.

  • Casimir

    You could just as easily juxtapose quotes from Obama supporters with pictures of someone like Gandhi, if you were interested in cheap shots. Olbermann alone would get you a lot of mileage.

  • http://treymorton.blogspot.com Trey

    Nice touch with his words in red.

  • muggle

    I don’t care; this was too beautiful.

    If tea partiers are being linked with hateful far righters, gee, I can’t imagine why given their behavior spitting at Congressman and calling out racial slurs in protest of an issue that had absolutely nothing to do with race. And I don’t care how much you disagree with a Congressman, you don’t spit at him.

    So cry me a river. Far as I’m concerned, when the health care bill was being voted on, both the tea partiers and the Republican party have showed their true colors and their true colors are haters.

    I favor voting third party whenever possible but at age 52, I have registered Democrat so I can vote in the primaries. Only other party I have ever registered as was Green.

    I hope they’re mocked until hell freezes over and since there is no hell…

  • http://onestdv.blogspot.com OneSTDV

    Gibbs said he wasn’t sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

    Gosh I can’t figure out why either. Nice evasion here.

    I’m not arguing that Obama is a Muslim. I personally believe he’s an agnostic who uses Christianity as a political device.

    Instead, I’m arguing that believing Obama is a Muslim isn’t outlandish. He has rather intimate connections to Islam, far more than the vast majority of Americans. Does this equate with actual belief? Of course not. But it does confer at least some credibility upon those that view his professed Christianity somewhat incredulously.

    This is especially relevant because Islam remains the most potent threat against the West. It’s probably not in our best interest to have a leader who sympathizes with the edicts of that pernicious belief system.

  • Neon Genesis

    “Instead, I’m arguing that believing Obama is a Muslim isn’t outlandish. He has rather intimate connections to Islam, far more than the vast majority of Americans.”

    And doesn’t that say more about America’s ignorance of Islam than it does about Obama’s faith? So you’re determining the sincerity of Obama’s faith by using the American masses’ ignorance of Islam as a gauge?

  • http://onestdv.blogspot.com OneSTDV

    Again, nice evasion.

    Look, one half of his family is Muslim (and despite not knowing him, he idolized his father’s side of the family), one of his half-brothers is a devout Muslim, he was raised by a nominally Muslim stepfather in a predominantly Muslim family where he was registered as a Muslim and taught Islamic prayers.

    Almost anyone who has that kind of background is either a Muslim or a nominal Muslim through adulthood.

    Obama didn’t even “find Christ” until his mid 30′s, coincidentally right around the time he was starting his political career and, another coincidence, choosing a highly influential church within his constituent community.

    On top of that, we have his own quotes that speak to a rather enervated formulation of Christianity.

    Now knowing all that: Is it really THAT crazy to think Obama harbors some Islamic belief?

    I personally think he’s an agnostic, but I’m not going to censure people who find his professed faith somewhat dubious.

  • Neon Genesis

    So Obama is an agnostic Muslim? Now you’re just making things up. Where’s your evidence Obama’s family was Muslim? Obama’s family was non-religious, not Muslim. I’m still waiting for your facts and logic, not Republican propaganda, which you admitted is your source. I can only think you’re accusing Obama of being a Muslim because he’s not white.

    “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama#Family_and_personal_life

    “Obama is a Christian whose religious views developed in his adult life. In The Audacity of Hope, Obama writes that he “was not raised in a religious household”. He describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents (whom Obama has specified elsewhere as “non-practicing Methodists and Baptists”) to be detached from religion, yet “in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I have ever known”. He describes his father as “raised a Muslim”, but a “confirmed atheist” by the time his parents met, and his stepfather as “a man who saw religion as not particularly useful”. Obama explained how, through working with black churches as a community organizer while in his twenties, he came to understand “the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change”.

    Obama’s father deconverted to atheism when his parents got married and his stepfather didn’t see any use in religion, so where’s your evidence again that Obama had an Islamic background?

  • Casimir

    These are the same kind of people who were shouting for his death at the McCain/Palin rallies.

    Death threats that only one journalist heard, and the Secret Service didn’t.

    If tea partiers are being linked with hateful far righters, gee, I can’t imagine why given their behavior spitting at Congressman[1] and calling out racial slurs[2] in protest of an issue that had absolutely nothing to do with race. And I don’t care how much you disagree with a Congressman, you don’t spit at him.

    [1] At worst I think the guy was guilty of say it don’t spray it.

    [2] No evidence of racial slurs. There’s a $10,000 reward for evidence, and there’s nothing. Even with tons of cameras around (cameras that did capture the “spitting” incident.)

    What has been going on is a smear campaign against the Tea Partiers. I personally think they’re a bit nutty, but they’re not that different from previous demonstrators. I would hope that rationalists would be guided by evidence.

  • Neon Genesis

    “[2] No evidence of racial slurs. There’s a $10,000 reward for evidence, and there’s nothing. Even with tons of cameras around (cameras that did capture the “spitting” incident.)”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WZYNFZ_knw&playnext_from=TL&videos=x9hXip1zIuU

    So, where’s my $10,000? The $10,000 is a total scam.

  • Casimir

    Well, Neon Genesis, you should try reading the article. It was a specific claim about the n-word being shouted loudly 15 times. Not that nobody has ever used the n-word during the wrangling over health care. One voice mail by some deranged person? You seriously think that’s representative of a movement of many thousands of Americans?

    You’re going to find nuts attached to any movement, the main difference with the Tea Party is the media decided to make the Tea Party narrative “they’re a bunch of crazy racists”. They highlight those loons to make the movement look bad. They could’ve done the same thing with a left-leaning movement but they didn’t because of their political bias. It’s a political strategy that others have discovered independently.

  • Neon Genesis

    So, if they’re not representative, who is? The “if Brown can’t stop health care, a Browning” can Tea Partiers? How about the Obama = Hitler Tea Partiers? What about the anti-abortion Tea Partiers who threatened Bart Stupak because he didn’t stop health care reform? How about the Palin/Beck Tea Partiers that think your grandma is a socialist? What about the O Riley Titz Tea Partiers who think Obama is a secret Muslim from Kenya? Where are all these calm and rational Tea Partiers you claim that exist and why aren’t they doing anything about the crazy people?

  • Casimir

    Where are all these calm and rational Tea Partiers you claim that exist…

    If you had read my previous comment, you’ll see that I said “I personally think they’re a bit nutty”. If you’re not willing to read either the article I linked to or even my comments, then there’s no point in continuing this conversation.

    What I am saying is the media has portrayed Tea Parties as akin to a Ku Klux Klan rally, and it is a deliberate effort in order to marginize all opposition to Obama’s healthcare as the views of violent racist nuts.

    It’s the same sort of thing atheists face when religious people point out such representative atheists as Ze Dong and serial killers.

  • Neon Genesis

    This has nothing to do with how the media is portraying them. It’s the way the Tea Party is portraying themselves. Just look at this survey: http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/article.asp?articleID=56877 “Among whites who approved, 35 percent said they believe blacks to be hardworking, 45 percent said they believe them intelligent and 41 percent said they believe them trustworthy.”

    • UWIR

      Are you implying that if 35% said blacks are hardworking, then 65% said that they aren’t? That does not follow. And your link is broken.

  • muggle

    Say it don’t spray? Seriously, um, I don’t see that proved. In fact, maybe he’s cupping his hands for a reason. To cover it up. Maybe. Could go either way. Probably why charges weren’t pressed. No proof. Not to mention the negative publicity it would have garnered him. And can you press charges just for name calling? Even hateful name calling?

    I do have to say that given that he was cupping his mouth makes it more dubious that he accidentally sprayed it while saying it. If it was just say it, don’t spray it as you claim, his hands, not the Congressman, would have got it.

    I don’t have the time or inclination to comb through all the you tubes out there on this. Mostly you just hear shouting. And see the spitting incident and the Black Caucus’ path blocked as they head in to vote. Seemed like they were trying to keep them from getting in, which is fairly racist in and of itself. They try and stop white members of Congress from entering? All in all, I think they were very wise to arrive together.

    If I get some serious time to kill, I’ll hunt further. Don’t hold your breath. I’m not retired yet and even if I were, I’m certain I’d have better things to do.

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  • Brian Macker

    “So, if they’re not representative, who is? ”

    I am. There are wack job religious nuts who want to try to run to the front of the parade but they are pretenders, and jerks. We got sick of one of them at a NYC protest and shouted her down with “USA, USA.” She was being mocked in the crowd from the beginning of her speech. I wrote extensively in the comments about what the real issues are, and what was really going on.

    I really wish you ignorant fools would stop with the defamation. These aren’t racists, they are nonviolent, and are not some uniform group of bible thumping conspiracy theorists.

    What triggered this was that we were pissed off that this economic crash caused by government intervention in the economy was being used as an excuse to bail out rich friends of both republicans and democrats. Also as an excuse for massive increase in government graft, and pork.

  • Brian Macker

    Neon Genesis,

    That is not how the tea party is portraying themselves. That is how the University of Washington is. If you took a survey of all the atheists on the planet you’d find that a very large majority are racists. The Chinese aren’t exactly known for being racially tolerant. How do you feel about that.
    Do you feel that this guy represents you? He thinks that a good way to promote atheism would be a sign that says “Fuck your god, Nigger”. This is closer to atheists portraying themselves than a survey of one hundred anonymous people who probably never showed up at a tea party protest.

    • paulalovescats

      The Chinese are atheist simply because they were raised that way. They were also raised to be racist. You can’t compare the Chinese to people who are really tolerant and open-minded who happen to be atheists and not racists.

  • Brian Macker

    Casimir,

    No N-Word in a single video of that protest and it was a well recorded event. The guy even lied about be spat upon. Getting some inadvertent spray is not the same as being spat upon. He was obviously being yelled at but these idiots in congress deserve it, and especially the democrats.

    You guys want to hear the N-Word then listen to the Amazing Atheist.

  • Brian Macker

    Neon Genesis,

    Based on your comment about the $10,000 reward I’ve come to the conclusion that you are a moron. The reward is for a video backing up the claim that the N-word was shouted at the tea party protest that the Congressional Black Caucus made a point of parading in front of.

    Also you’d think you’d at least have the brains to include a video at a tea party protest with the n-word to collect your prize. No you have a white woman saying she’d like to hang another white woman, some random hate mail, and some random hate voice mail. All unrelated to any tea party event.

    You are a sham.

  • Brian Macker

    Muggle,

    “If tea partiers are being linked with hateful far righters, gee, I can’t imagine why given their behavior spitting at Congressman and calling out racial slurs in protest of an issue that had absolutely nothing to do with race.”

    Stop spreading lies.

    • UWIR

      Does that logic also apply to Muslims and terrorism, or is there some difference?


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