Comments on: Sarah Palin Says We’re a Christian Nation — She’s Wrong

By: dean sinnett

dean sinnett — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:00:34 +0000

the natural man recieves not the things of the spirit of God neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned—-everything dicussed above and below is only to be spiritually discerned and you’ll have your answer yes there is a few overcomers-ones that have overcome the devil the world and self,again only a few,i have since studied the subject well and by the spirit and the nation was founded on the premise to bring about the new world order which is the devils doings so athiests(God doesnt believe in you all,by the way)and all others
all biblical discussions need to be from the spirit not reasonings and conclusions from intellect so if you heed this advise you get your answers if not you remain in the dark—all said by experience

By: False Prophet

False Prophet — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:02:06 +0000

Well, according to this book, the Founding Fathers were embroiled in a culture war not too dissimilar to today's. The first five presidents' relationships to religion are examined: these two reviewers sum up the book best. Adams was devoutly Protestant. Jefferson just as devout to reason, but religion and politics mixed freely in Washington during his administration. Washington avoided any appearance of favouring one church over another, and railed against clerical interference in politics. Monroe was even more secular than Washington, being the only one of the first five presidents who didn't even keep up the appearance of attending church while in office. He was too apathetic towards religion in general to be disrespectful to religious beliefs.

By: Casimir

Casimir — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:37:16 +0000

I’m surprised nobody’s brought up Thomas Paine, who railed so passionately against Chrisitianity in The Age of Reason that many described him as an atheist even though he was a deist.

On the subject of Washington’s Farewell Address, he spent a considerable amount of time warning the American people to not form political parties. So there’s that.

By: Casimir

Casimir — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:33:16 +0000

America was founded as a slave-owning nation and was intended to be a nation of slave-owners by the Founders.

Nobody’s perfect.

By: Siamang

Siamang — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:56:14 +0000

We seem to be a dumbass nation, though.

By: muggle

muggle — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:42:58 +0000

These people are scary and I fear Jeff is right. Were they ever to succeed, a second revolution would be necessary.

Palin and Huckabee? Please tell me there’s someone else being floated for the Christian Nationalist Party, formerly known as the GOP. (With a shout out to The American Heathen, RJ Evans, for the phrase.)

Of course, I’m probably going to be voting to re-elect Obama, both at the primaries (the Repubs and tea party nutjobs have driven me to registering Democratic at 52 years of age) and the general election. Since even when they get a viable third party candidate, they shut them out of the election anyway.

There are some things about this country that really suck. Like how people get away with not playing fair. Sigh. I guess that’s the bad you take with the good to be free.

By: Beijingrrl

Beijingrrl — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:18:21 +0000

Wouldn’t it be cool if someone organized a gathering of all the people who aren’t Christian in America? I believe at last count that was approximately 77 million people. That would be a visual that would be hard to ignore.

By: Centricci

Centricci — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:38:18 +0000

I think what Robertson is referring to is this speech:

“What ever we once were, we’re no longer a christian nation…at least not just…we’re also a jewish nation, a muslim nation, and a buddhist nation and a hindu nation and a nation of non-believers.”

But you are still correct, Hemant.
Robertson is way off base.

By: More Christian Nation Controversy | Rationality Now

More Christian Nation Controversy | Rationality Now — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:23:15 +0000

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By: Bo J

Bo J — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:09:23 +0000

I suppose it would surprise Palin to learn that Washington, while he may have even attended church (usually around once a month with his wife) never took communion and upon his death bed refused a minister. As for Jefferson, I think we can all agree that rewriting the bible sans miracles probably wouldn’t be the actions of someone who believed in the infallible divinity of jesus (which if you say backwards sounds like sausage). Then of course there’s Adams, who was at best a Unitarian (someone whom Palin would burn at the stake today, if given the chance) and who outright rejected his Calvinist heritage (something else that would thoroughly irk Mrs. Palin). And Lastly, my favorite, Madison, who aside from his anthropological interest in religion as a social institution was a fierce proponent of religious freedom on a state and national level (co-authoring the Statute of Religious Freedom in Virginia with Jefferson, and authoring the Constitution) and it could be most definitivley said, as with almost all founders, that he was a Deist. The stories of our friends Franklin and Paine need no recounting here, their words have not been bent nearly as much over the years.

As someone who holds a degree in History I find claims that this is a christian nation founded on christian principles appallaing. Where in the bible is your right to free speech, or your protection from unfair search and seizure, or your right not to be self-incriminating. She is a fool, and an unfortunately popular one at that.