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		<title>By: Sunny Day</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/06/26/you-cant-live-here-if-youre-gay/#comment-783985</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the Bigoted Thief lost more than 10x what he tried to steal. 

http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/tag/scott-robertson/ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the Bigoted Thief lost more than 10x what he tried to steal. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/tag/scott-robertson/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/tag/scott-robertson/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;J.K. Jones Says:
Homosexuality is either right or wrong.

Those who believe it is wrong are morally obligated to warn those who are engaging in homosexual behavior to stop. They are also morally obligated to ensure they are not supporting homosexual behavior.

The more productive discussion is whether the behavior is right or wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is true, it says so in 2 Thessalonians 3:15 &quot;Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.&quot; 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yet Another Atheist Say:
Homosexuality is neither right nor wrong, any more than having red hair is right or wrong, or being black is right or wrong. It’s who the person is, and something they can’t help. Why can’t these fucking moronic Christian evangelical retards understand that? What is so hard to grasp about that? If there were a God, he made them that way. Then what? There goes the entire, backwards religion. One down, several more to go.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Leviticus 18:22 says &#039;Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.&#039;
In Genesis 1 God made man and woman and blessed them and said be fruitful and increase in number and in Romans chapter 1 it says homosexuality is unnatural or against nature. To be fruitful and increase in number you have to get pregnant and the only natural way to do that is sexual intercourse between a man and a woman. So no, they are not made or born that way. If they were, God wouldn&#039;t be just or fair like he says he is because he&#039;d be damning them to Hell.
For obvious reasons we can&#039;t pick and choose which parts of the bible-God&#039;s word and our guide to life-apply just because we like that part. We have to stick with the parts that we don&#039;t like too, even if we&#039;re sorry and regretful and sad about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>J.K. Jones Says:<br />
Homosexuality is either right or wrong.</p>
<p>Those who believe it is wrong are morally obligated to warn those who are engaging in homosexual behavior to stop. They are also morally obligated to ensure they are not supporting homosexual behavior.</p>
<p>The more productive discussion is whether the behavior is right or wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is true, it says so in 2 Thessalonians 3:15 &#8220;Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.&#8221; </p>
<blockquote><p>Yet Another Atheist Say:<br />
Homosexuality is neither right nor wrong, any more than having red hair is right or wrong, or being black is right or wrong. It’s who the person is, and something they can’t help. Why can’t these fucking moronic Christian evangelical retards understand that? What is so hard to grasp about that? If there were a God, he made them that way. Then what? There goes the entire, backwards religion. One down, several more to go.</p></blockquote>
<p>Leviticus 18:22 says &#8216;Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.&#8217;<br />
In Genesis 1 God made man and woman and blessed them and said be fruitful and increase in number and in Romans chapter 1 it says homosexuality is unnatural or against nature. To be fruitful and increase in number you have to get pregnant and the only natural way to do that is sexual intercourse between a man and a woman. So no, they are not made or born that way. If they were, God wouldn&#8217;t be just or fair like he says he is because he&#8217;d be damning them to Hell.<br />
For obvious reasons we can&#8217;t pick and choose which parts of the bible-God&#8217;s word and our guide to life-apply just because we like that part. We have to stick with the parts that we don&#8217;t like too, even if we&#8217;re sorry and regretful and sad about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah I morally disapprove of belief in infallibility.  I don&#039;t consider it a victimless crime.  My motto is &#039;love the believer, hate the belief system,&#039; which represents an exactly equal amount of brotherly love as the &#039;love the sinner...&#039; trope contains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah I morally disapprove of belief in infallibility.  I don&#8217;t consider it a victimless crime.  My motto is &#8216;love the believer, hate the belief system,&#8217; which represents an exactly equal amount of brotherly love as the &#8216;love the sinner&#8230;&#8217; trope contains.</p>
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		<title>By: J. K. Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2010/06/26/you-cant-live-here-if-youre-gay/#comment-505382</link>
		<dc:creator>J. K. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Tim, I think homosexual behavior is wrong.

Beckster, everyone votes for and lobbies for a version of a moral code.  You are saying it is WRONG for someone to insist that others live by his / her moral code.  Your moral code is such that you see this insistence as wrong.

Min, red hair is neither right nor wrong.  How does this apply to homosexuality?

Chal (and everyone else), I would have rented the house to the guys.  I would not see a problem with it.  I would see it as an opportunity to break down some stereotypes of how Christians treat gays.  The main point I was trying to make above is that forcing an opinion on another with the law is not really a good solution in a case like this (especially in a pluralistic society like the one we have in the US). 

We are all born with a proclivity to sin, it’s just that we usually have different sins we prefer.  The solution in all of the cases where we are genetically predisposed to a certain sin is repentance.  I repent daily.  Change is hard for us all, but possible with faith in Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Tim, I think homosexual behavior is wrong.</p>
<p>Beckster, everyone votes for and lobbies for a version of a moral code.  You are saying it is WRONG for someone to insist that others live by his / her moral code.  Your moral code is such that you see this insistence as wrong.</p>
<p>Min, red hair is neither right nor wrong.  How does this apply to homosexuality?</p>
<p>Chal (and everyone else), I would have rented the house to the guys.  I would not see a problem with it.  I would see it as an opportunity to break down some stereotypes of how Christians treat gays.  The main point I was trying to make above is that forcing an opinion on another with the law is not really a good solution in a case like this (especially in a pluralistic society like the one we have in the US). </p>
<p>We are all born with a proclivity to sin, it’s just that we usually have different sins we prefer.  The solution in all of the cases where we are genetically predisposed to a certain sin is repentance.  I repent daily.  Change is hard for us all, but possible with faith in Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: plutosdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>plutosdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that the point of the parable of the Good Samaritan? That the last guy didn&#039;t follow the *true* god and was unclean to begin with so it was fine for him to help, but the first two were correct to not touch the man in need, because they would become unclean. And that was more important than anything.

That is why Jesus never ate and drank with prostitutes and tax collectors, they were unclean sinners and he said &quot;I don&#039;t hate you just your sin, now get behind me Satan so I can go hang with my Pharisee bros.&quot;

There should be a new version of the Bible printed, where every time Pharisee or Sagisee appears, it is replaced with &quot;evangelical christian&quot;, every time some neighboring tyrant comes to slaughter the jews, replace them with &quot;evangelical christian,&quot; every time satan or some demon appears to lie and tempt others, replace it with &quot;evangelical christian.&quot; Maybe they&#039;ll get the hint at how utterly evil many of them are.

The Pride parade is assembling outside my window right now. Luckily it just stopped raining. See you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that the point of the parable of the Good Samaritan? That the last guy didn&#8217;t follow the *true* god and was unclean to begin with so it was fine for him to help, but the first two were correct to not touch the man in need, because they would become unclean. And that was more important than anything.</p>
<p>That is why Jesus never ate and drank with prostitutes and tax collectors, they were unclean sinners and he said &#8220;I don&#8217;t hate you just your sin, now get behind me Satan so I can go hang with my Pharisee bros.&#8221;</p>
<p>There should be a new version of the Bible printed, where every time Pharisee or Sagisee appears, it is replaced with &#8220;evangelical christian&#8221;, every time some neighboring tyrant comes to slaughter the jews, replace them with &#8220;evangelical christian,&#8221; every time satan or some demon appears to lie and tempt others, replace it with &#8220;evangelical christian.&#8221; Maybe they&#8217;ll get the hint at how utterly evil many of them are.</p>
<p>The Pride parade is assembling outside my window right now. Luckily it just stopped raining. See you there.</p>
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		<title>By: muggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if being gay, were a choice, so the fuck what?  That argument always really bothers me not just because it isn&#039;t but because it really doesn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s not hurting anyone so get something going in your own bedroom and poke your nose out of other people&#039;s.

This landlord is an asshole.  If you can&#039;t handle dealing with people different than you then you should not be in business for yourself because they may at some point be interested in what you&#039;re selling.

I don&#039;t think he should have been able to deny them a rental based on that regardless but how sleazy is it to take the money then pull this crap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if being gay, were a choice, so the fuck what?  That argument always really bothers me not just because it isn&#8217;t but because it really doesn&#8217;t matter.  It&#8217;s not hurting anyone so get something going in your own bedroom and poke your nose out of other people&#8217;s.</p>
<p>This landlord is an asshole.  If you can&#8217;t handle dealing with people different than you then you should not be in business for yourself because they may at some point be interested in what you&#8217;re selling.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he should have been able to deny them a rental based on that regardless but how sleazy is it to take the money then pull this crap?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, being gay is neither right nor wrong. And it&#039;s not a behavior, but an identity. That&#039;s a relatively new and western concept though. It wasn&#039;t always that way and a lot of Muslim countries still see it that way. The idea of homosexuality as an innate character trait has spread there in recent years and is changing the dynamics there a bit. You&#039;d be surprised at how much homosexual behavior by straight people there is in Saudia Arabia of all places, because of the strict gender segregation. But the men see it as ok as long as they are the &quot;male&quot;/top position. Just as in ancient Rome and Greece.

Anyways, true homosexuality isn&#039;t something anyone can change. But that&#039;s not how Christians see it. To them it&#039;s a choice or phase and they disparage it as a &quot;lifestyle&quot;. They think you can &quot;pray the gay away&quot; and grow out of it. So if they just discriminate and hate enough, people will stop choosing to be gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, being gay is neither right nor wrong. And it&#8217;s not a behavior, but an identity. That&#8217;s a relatively new and western concept though. It wasn&#8217;t always that way and a lot of Muslim countries still see it that way. The idea of homosexuality as an innate character trait has spread there in recent years and is changing the dynamics there a bit. You&#8217;d be surprised at how much homosexual behavior by straight people there is in Saudia Arabia of all places, because of the strict gender segregation. But the men see it as ok as long as they are the &#8220;male&#8221;/top position. Just as in ancient Rome and Greece.</p>
<p>Anyways, true homosexuality isn&#8217;t something anyone can change. But that&#8217;s not how Christians see it. To them it&#8217;s a choice or phase and they disparage it as a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;. They think you can &#8220;pray the gay away&#8221; and grow out of it. So if they just discriminate and hate enough, people will stop choosing to be gay.</p>
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		<title>By: jcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, Christians forget this: &quot;Judge not, that ye be not judged.&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:1&amp;version=KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matth 7:1, KVJ&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Christians forget this: &#8220;Judge not, that ye be not judged.&#8221; (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:1&amp;version=KJV" rel="nofollow">Matth 7:1, KVJ</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of Christians seem to have a weird view of what love is. The &quot;love the sinner, hate the sin&quot; idea is part of this. Also, like one of the above commentors said, evangelical Christians going around telling random strangers they love them. I&#039;ve encountered this a few times, and it weirds me out. In any case, saying you love someone when you hardly know them is bullshit, especially if you&#039;re a bigot who discriminates against them because of the sexual orientation they were born with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of Christians seem to have a weird view of what love is. The &#8220;love the sinner, hate the sin&#8221; idea is part of this. Also, like one of the above commentors said, evangelical Christians going around telling random strangers they love them. I&#8217;ve encountered this a few times, and it weirds me out. In any case, saying you love someone when you hardly know them is bullshit, especially if you&#8217;re a bigot who discriminates against them because of the sexual orientation they were born with.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WMDKitty:

I live in Yellowknife. The rental officer ordered the landlord to return the tenants&#039; damage deposit and to pay other compensation to cover their increased costs. The case that&#039;s described in this blog post is about the discrimination because the tenants are gay: a separate issue even though it resulted from the same event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WMDKitty:</p>
<p>I live in Yellowknife. The rental officer ordered the landlord to return the tenants&#8217; damage deposit and to pay other compensation to cover their increased costs. The case that&#8217;s described in this blog post is about the discrimination because the tenants are gay: a separate issue even though it resulted from the same event.</p>
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