Celebrities Mentioning Their Atheism

In the latest issue of Rolling Stone (full article not available online), comedian Ricky Gervais talks about his atheism. That’s not new. I just like this accompanying picture:

I’m pretty sure that’s what fundamentalist Christians think about when they hear the word “atheist”…

Gervais isn’t alone in talking about his atheism, though.

He’s joined by Kari Byron from Mythbusters, who discusses it in an interview at Suicide Girls:

Keith Daniels: Well one thing I’m curious about. Do you believe in God? Are you an atheist?

Kari Byron: I am an atheist, but I don’t begrudge anyone for whatever belief systems they hold.

KD: Sure. Did you ever in believe in God? What age were you, and how did you realize that you were an atheist?

KB: I think somewhere around the second grade. I remember specifically having this conversation with my grandmother… I had a lot of little friends, and one of them was a Buddhist. I remember [my grandmother] telling me that that little girl wouldn’t go to Heaven, and I just couldn’t wrap rationalize that this little girl wouldn’t go to Heaven because she believed in something else. It got me really questioning. I just kind of quietly stopped believing, and I didn’t go to church after that with my grandmother any more unless she really asked. I didn’t believe it. I started out religious I guess. Semi-religious. I had holiday Catholics as parents. [Laughs]

KD: As a parent yourself, would you like your daughter to be a non-believer as well? Or will you present both sides and see what she comes up with?

KB: What I’d like [my daughter] to do is to be a critical thinker. I would really like her to keep that child-like critical thinking that she has. I won’t force any belief system that I have on her, but I’m not going to present a case [for her] in something that I don’t personally believe in. If she comes home someday and says she wants to believe… I will love her no matter what she does, [Laughs] but I’m not going to present a religious case to her. I’m not religious; I don’t believe in it, and I sometimes find it a little bit dangerous. But I will love her no matter what she decides.

KD: Dangerous in what way?

KB: I’m a true believer in science — it’s subject to change and evolve. I have a hard time sometimes with the un-evolving, stern, ‘this is the way it is’ answers that religion gives you.

This whole post was really just an excuse to post a picture of Kari.

Now back to your regularly scheduled blog.

  • http://www.quietatheist.com Slugsie

    Ooooh, Kari Byron was already on my top 10, now she is well into my top 5. :D

    Brains, beauty, and a critical thinker too. What’s not to like?

    Although she is a vegetarian germophobe, so… ;)

  • http://theotherweirdo.wordpress.com The Other Weirdo

    This whole post was really just an excuse to post a picture of Kari.

    LOL! Because, after all, what matter a woman’s mind, personality, kindness, ability. She’s hot, that’s all that matters. :)

    Great interview, though. Thanks for sharing that.

  • gribblethemunchkin

    I’ve always liked mythbusters, always liked Kari Byron but to find out that she is an atheist as well is the icing on the cake.

    And the other weirdo. Its not all that matters. Kari is roundly worshipped y man-geeks because she is hot AND because of her mind. Its all one package. We appreciate her looks and her brains because both are appealing to us. Is this wrong? Did I miss a memo?

    Is it wrong when my fiance declares her undying love/lust for Brian Cox because of his brain AND his looks?

    I don’t see a problem.

    And yeah, i saw the smiley, just trying to head off potential arguements.

  • Rebecca

    What? Not Tori? No Adam? Awwwww! (sad face). Oh well, it’s good that more and more people are taking a stand on their religious or non-religious views nowadays.

  • siveambrai

    @Rebecca I’m right up there with your for Adam (Tori is cute but I can’t afford the insurance policy that is required for him!)

    I have a history of a love/hate/love relationship with Kari. When I first started watching Mythbusters I thought it was awesome that there was a woman on this super sciency show.

    Then I began paying attention to the types of things they showed her doing and got annoyed with her because they were very, very stereotypical. On top of that the badass welding woman was dropped (can’t remember her name atm).

    Then I actually research Kari and her degrees and background. I have to give the woman serious props. She really does have the cred to backup her appearance on the show and isn’t just a piece of hot meat to throw to the men who watch. In the last few season’s they’ve managed to expand the roles she’s had to more technical skills as well :)

    (I’ll still not like the blond they had fill in while she was on maternity leave though).

  • Ibis

    @gribble Yeah, but Hemant said the post was an excuse to put up Kari’s picture. Not her interview. Even as a joke that sucks. Because sexist can be considered amusing even among those who consider themselves enlightened and progressive.

  • ThatOtherGuy

    Kari Byron, oh my goodness. I’m gay and I would still absolutely marry the hell out of her, she is an incredibly interesting person.

  • http://www.mongenel.com Duo

    She’s my wife!!! Damn you all! LOL Seriously though, great pictures to accompany great exposure.

  • Matteo Watkins

    It’s good to know that the thoughts that Kari’s photo is putting in my head won’t send me to hell. Sweeeeet. :)

  • ACN

    This is why I love mythbusters.

    Even when they’re “off the clock” they are advocating critical thinking.

    Also, that picture of Ricky is terrifying.

  • LadyHawke

    I like the pic of Ricky there. He looks fierce and tasty. But I think it must be airbrushed.. either that or he has lost a ton of weight.

  • http://www.aussieinengland.wordpress.com Lissa

    I really like the posting of celebrity atheists speaking out. We need more of them.

  • http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com Karl Withakay

    I like the response to the question, “Or will you present both sides and see what she comes up with?”

    That’s a bit of a loaded question (even if it was really a softball pitch), and she fielded it very well. I doubt many religious persons “present both sides” to their children.

    As if there are only two sides. Which religion is she supposed to present to her child as the alternative to atheism? How about presenting your children with all the dozens/hundreds of various religions and sub religions. Should she present her child with the options of paganism, wicca, and Scientology?

  • CanadianNihilist

    any reason is a good reason for a pic of Kari. But I’m not surprised in the least that she’s an atheist. It would surprise me a lot if anyone on that show wasn’t.

  • Cyndi

    Ricky Gervais is cuter.

  • Alt+3

    That picture of Ricky Gervais just made me a little gay. Seriously, he looks fantastic.

    Also, I’m not surprised Kari is an atheist, all of the Mythbusters seem to have they’re heads on pretty straight (my favorite is Grant).

  • http://suicidegirls.com Keith Daniels

    Hey thanks for the shout out!

    @Karl It’s hard for me to think of any question regarding a television star’s atheism as “softball” in the American religious climate. Sadly, it’s still pretty brave for someone who values their career to publicly state they’re an atheist in no uncertain terms.

    Perhaps you mean that I was implying that Kari owed her child some sort of “fairness doctrine” to present both sides. My question was perhaps poorly worded, but that’s not what I intended. If there are two sides, I would say they were “religious” and “non-religious”. Not “christian” and “atheist”. I think the question of how an atheist deals with raising their children in an extremely religious and credulous society is a very valid one.

    Unfortunately, when you’re speaking extemporaneously, sometimes you’re not as clear as you’d like. Still, I think Kari understood what I meant and answered the question well.

  • stogoe

    Ricky Gervais looks like Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in that pic – those hair wings and the cigar clinch it. Was it deliberate or am I just a geek? The world may never know.

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com/ Gretchen

    Ricky Gervais has lost a lot of weight, which I suspect is why he seems to be going shirtless all over the place these days. No complaints about that here.

  • Gus Snarp

    @stogoe – Yeah, I totally got the Wolverine vibe. If it’s not intentional, then it was done in a room full of people who have never opened a comic book.

  • http://www.bluefrogdesignstudios.com/thebluefrogsays/ The Big Blue Frog

    Mmmmmmmm…. Kari.

    I don’t know about the other sub-Busters, but I know that Adam is an atheist, and I’m pretty sure Jamie is too.

  • LeAnne

    hah! as if she wasn’t awesome enough! and now we find out she’s an atheist. talk about a great lady!

    as if she could get any hotter. haha :D

  • http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com Karl Withakay

    I meant softball in respect to that it wasn’t a loaded question asked by someone with a religious agenda, as in, “Do you intend to indoctrinate you child into atheism or are you going to tell them that Jesus loves them?”, and you didn’t intend to attack her answer.

    I loved the interview, and I loved her answers, but in regards to the questions:

    “…would you like your daughter to be a non-believer as well? Or will you present both sides and see what she comes up with?”

    As worded, I don’t like these questions very much. The questions are inherently loaded, even if they weren’t indented to be so. They imply the false equivalence that both “sides” have equal validity and should be presented to the child as equally valid options.

    Also, the questions are a false dichotomy in that the first and second parts are not mutually exclusive, though the use of the word or implies that they are.

    I prefer the question, “As an atheist, how do you intend to raise your child? What do you plan to tell her about religion and religious beliefs?”

    My answer to the question, if I had a child, would be, “I plan to do my best to impart to my child the ability to think critically and rationally and skeptically evaluate the world and people around her. Sure, I would like my child to come to the same conclusions that I have come to, but I won’t love her any less if she doesn’t. I certainly plan to tell her about the beliefs of others and that she should respect the rights of others to have different beliefs and practices, but I will also tell her that she doesn’t have to respect the actual beliefs themselves if she doesn’t agree with them.”

    The two sides concept is also a false dichotomy, even from the perspective of religious vs non-religious.

    What is the other side you would present to your child to see what he/she comes up with? I have to assume you meant the two major sides, since numerous religions are so distinct from Judeo-Christian and Muslim monotheistic, creator religions as to share virtually no significant common elements, not to mention the diverse spectrum of beliefs that constitute atheism and agnosticism.

    I do appreciate the difficulties of interviewing extemporaneously, and I did really enjoyed the interview, my nitpicking notwithstanding.

  • http://suicidegirls.com Keith Daniels

    @Karl I completely understand what you’re saying, now, and wholeheartedly agree. That would have been a better way to phrase the question. I appreciate your constructive criticism, and I’ll keep that in mind for future interviews. I wish I had a hundred more readers like you.

  • http://freeoftheism.org isherwood

    Seems to me that Gervais is pulling some of his usual comedy by sucking in his gut in that photo. Even if he has lost weight recently, he looks like he’s wearing an invisible girdle here. I think he’s joking.

  • Blueknittedmonkey

    He looks suspiciously like Marvel Comic’s Wolverine.

  • http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com Karl Withakay

    Keith, thanks for the compliment. You have been Cordially Deconstructed.

    (Cordial Deconstruction is my blog, linked to in my name.)

    Keep up the good work!

  • NotYou007

    Kari could be a hardcore fundie and she would still be hot and a lot of men would still desire to sleep with her.

    Hot fundie women will mess around with atheist men. I know this as fact.

  • bigjohn756

    That is the best pic of Kari I have seen. It now graces my desktop…for a while. I’ll have to put Dana Delaney back up soon.

  • http://littlelioness.net Fiona

    Would be happy for more posts like these ;)

  • Rhodent

    @Big Blue Frog: I’ve seen Jamie go on record as being an atheist, too.

    Getting back to Ricky Gervais, one other comedian who has been quite open about his atheism is Eddie Izzard. I remember watching him on Jimmy Fallon one time (the only time I watched JF’s show; my TiVo is set to record anything with Eddie Izzard), and he casually mentioned his atheism, at which point Jimmy was completely shocked and asked if you can say that on television. I wanted to stick my hand in the television and slap Jimmy repeatedly while saying, “YES, YOU CAN SAY THAT ON TELEVISION, YOU NINCOMPOOP!”

  • Joshua

    Karl and Keith — you both earned a lot of respect for the way you handled giving and receiving criticism here. Wow. Well done.

    Hemant — nice post, good topic, but your comment at the end about her picture was pretty weak. I hope we’ll see you in the comment thread here saying something more substantive instead of basically saying she’s just here because of her looks.

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Hemant Mehta

    Hemant — nice post, good topic, but your comment at the end about her picture was pretty weak. I hope we’ll see you in the comment thread here saying something more substantive instead of basically saying she’s just here because of her looks.

    Obviously, I wouldn’t have posted anything about Kari without reason and the interview speaks for itself. Some people are just reading too much into a sarcastic line that doesn’t mean what they seem to think it means…

  • Alexa

    Still, why play into that sexist trope when you don’t have to? You could have said, “Kari is awesome. I love a woman who is sexy and intelligent!” That’s a line that acknowledges both her mind and her looks; it doesn’t dismiss her thoughts and opinions. I know you probably didn’t mean it like it came off, but that line definitely made me ( a woman) feel uncomfortable.

  • http://friendlyatheist.com Hemant Mehta

    @ Alexa — Because in my head, it’s funny and not sexist. In your mind, it’s not funny and it is sexist. Oh well.

    Some people also don’t find the baby jokes on this site funny…

  • Alexa

    But I think the baby jokes are a bit different, you know? We don’t have to worry about baby representation in the atheist community, or babies being driven away by jokes of how delicious they are!

    Women are a marginalized group in the atheist community, and we frequently feel ostracized, even amongst fellow atheists. I think language – even small jokes like that – can definitely contribute to that feeling. I just feel it’s better to avoid such language, especially when similar sentiments can be described in a more woman-friendly manner. :)

  • http://www.harvardhumanist.org Jonathan Figdor

    I’m with Hemant. There can be no humour police. Otherwise, religious folks can say that mocking their imaginary deity is offensive to them.

  • kage

    Jonathan – mocking their deity is offensive to many religious folk, but I’m not really concerned about being more welcoming to religious folk.

  • GaR

    Hemant must be the least sexist dude on the internet. He thinks Stephen Fry is too mainstream with all his white maleness :P

    Ain’t no who reads this blog regularly could think he was seriously being sexist.

    No one’s sticking up for poor Ricky here either. The dude’s being sexploited.

  • http://atheist-experience.com Matt Dillahunty

    “I know you probably didn’t mean it like it came off, but that line definitely made me ( a woman) feel uncomfortable.”

    Jen, at BlagHag, objected similarly…and it’s ridiculous.

    Essentially, the claim is: Hey, Hemant, you’re a nice guy and while *I* know you were joking, and didn’t mean it this way, there are some people who might not and so that comment isn’t cool.

    It’s like claiming that we shouldn’t have violent movies because some people might emulate the acts.

    This is a prime example of missing the forest for the trees.

    It’s a post about celebrity atheists – with equal gender representation. Of the two individuals represented, one is quoted and the other is shown in a sensationalizing picture showing a lot of skin.

    Hemant gets it and he thought he was writing for people who get it – and he was right. What he didn’t realize is that some of those who get it, have become so hypersensitive that want to police things on behalf of those who they suspect do not.

    I really wish I was able to express this in a way that would actually be productive – as we’re ON THE SAME SIDE – but I can’t. When a normal, fan-boyish comment from someone supportive of diversity is criticized because of the effect it might have on those who don’t understand…it’s too ‘least common denominator’ for me.

  • http://atheist-experience.com Matt Dillahunty

    So, I post my comment and I think of something that may be productive…let me try this:

    When he says that the post is just an excuse to post a picture of Kari – some have that this gives the impression that how she looks is more important than what she says…but the picture doesn’t just represent how she looks, it represents who she is, including what she says.

    Hemant is clearly attracted to Kari, like many others are, and he’s almost certainly attracted to her for reasons beyond her looks.

    I doubt he looks at that, or any other, picture of Kari and thinks that how she looks is more important than what she thinks…instead, if he’s anything like me, that picture is a quick, visual reminder of all the things that Kari has said or done that have inspired his admiration.

    It’s the reason why people carry photographs of their loved ones in their wallet or place them on their desk. The photographs are a trigger for all of the memories tied to that person.

    Hope that helps.

  • Gus Snarp

    Of course, I’m thinking that if the closing line had been: “This whole post was really just an excuse to post these pictures of Kari and Ricky.” There would have been no kerfuffle.

  • Jeebus

    People are too easily offended by sarcasm. Grow some thicker skin people. Enough with the PC on every topic in our lives. Kari is an attractive woman. Is stating so, even in a sarcastic way, such a bad thing these days? We are after all animals that are still driven, strongly, by the need to reproduce. She’s a hot chick! Her brains and attitude only make her that much more appealing to many people. If that’s offensive to anyone, too bad. Deal with it. Sheesh.

  • RedSonja

    And NotYou007 proves the point with this gem:

    Kari could be a hardcore fundie and she would still be hot and a lot of men would still desire to sleep with her.

    See, her ability to think critically isn’t what’s attractive about her at all! It’s her smokin’ bod!

    Hemant, I understand that you don’t believe that. But people like NotYou007 now think you’re on their side, and that the body is all that matters.

  • http://thebrunettesblog.wordpress.com Ginny

    The truth is that there are a lot of people who, whether or not they admit it to themselves, assess women primarily on the basis of their looks, and only secondarily on the basis of their intelligence/creativity/accomplishments/etc. As a woman reading a statement like that, I truly do not know whether the man is making a “this is funny because it’s so the opposite of what I think” joke or a “this is funny because I’m getting to say what we all think but don’t say” joke. I’ve been reading Hemant’s blog for about a year now, and while I’ve always taken him to be a very nice guy, being a nice guy doesn’t mean you’re immune to that kind of sexism (letting a woman’s attractiveness or unattractiveness overshadow her other qualities.)

    Jokes touching on sexism and racism need to be handled with extra care; not to make sure that nobody is offended, but to make reasonably sure that your target audience will “get” it. In this case, I think Hemant fell short.

  • http://blaghag.com Jennifurret

    Hemant and Matt, if you really still don’t understand why this is an issue after reading my post and some of the comments there, feel free to contact me and I’ll try to explain it to you personally.

  • http://atheist-experience.com Matt Dillahunty

    Done, Jen…and thanks.

  • http://atheist-experience.com Matt Dillahunty

    “…make reasonably sure that your target audience will “get” it. In this case, I think Hemant fell short.”

    And yet, while we haven’t identified the target audience, it appears that many, if not most, did get it. Despite this, Jen, who noted that she also got it – tried to argue that he shouldn’t say it just because someone won’t get it.

    We shouldn’t jokingly do anything that might give the impression of X, even if X wasn’t the intent, if X is a negative that is a real problem with some people.

    That sort of LCD/sterilization of our world isn’t the sort of thing I can agree with…and I think that, in this case, it’s quixotic.

    Did he say the picture was hot or that Kari was hot? Did he give a REASON why he wanted to post the picture? A picture is, as I noted above – a LOT MORE than just what someone looks like.

    Maybe I’m wrong, though. I e-mailed Jen and hopefully she’ll correct anything I’ve managed to screw up…she’s corrected a few other things for me in the past.

  • Alexa

    Look, the only reason I knew it wasn’t Hemant’s intent is because I have been reading his blog for quite some time. If I were an atheist woman who happened to stumble across this blog, I would definitely have been put off by it. Heck, I was put off by it, even knowing that Hemant usually doesn’t pull this sort of sexist joke. It’s just not something I expected from someone who usually defends atheist women.

    I’ve stumbled across a lot of atheist activists, thinking, “Hey, this is good! I really like this person”, only to be disappointed and frustrated when I discover they haven’t evolved past sexist comments or views. It’s why I primarily read woman atheist blogs nowadays, because it gets incredibly frustrating for me; it really makes me feel disenchanted with the atheist movement. I feel our movement is experiencing a lot of the same problems other “rights” movements have faced in the past (and still do)… we struggle to listen to the voices of POCs, women, GLBTQ… basically, anyone who is not a heterosexual, white male. I’m sure Hemant understands, being an atheist and man of color in a sea of white male atheists.

    Also, to the men out here NOT listening to what the women have to say: one of the first signs of privilege is telling the un-privileged group or person what they should or should not be offended by. I don’t think that’s for you to decide.

  • Gus Snarp

    Matt, you’ve talked about the target audience. Are we really Hemant’s target audience? Is he really just preaching to the choir? The blog is called “The Friendly Atheist”, which seems to imply some sort of outreach outside the atheist community.

    Hemant, you’be stated that it was “sarcastic line that doesn’t mean what they seem to think it means…”, but you certainly haven’t explained what it means. Was it really meant to skewer and ridicule the kind of sexist thinking that it suggests? Somehow I don’t see that from the context. Was it really your intent to say that the interview was pointless, here’s some eye candy? I don’t think that’s the case either. But it is a joke based on and reinforcing the notion that a woman is more important as a sex object than for the produce of her mind. The humor (such as it is) is in the very fact that people think that way, and not so much to skewer that way of thinking, but more of a “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more” kind of thing. But really, what did you mean by it? Why did you think it was a good idea? I submit that you didn’t think, but that it just suddenly occurred to you that it would be funny, and in that moment the little bit of you that is sexist (and we all have that little bit) was in control and you didn’t even know it.

  • Anonymous

    Is Kari allowed to have a say in this?

    http://twitter.com/KariByron/status/53141521670750208

  • CanadianChick

    aargh! hopefully this will post today, it wouldn’t yesterday.

    I really like both Jen and Hemant. I read their blogs, I can now say I’ve had a drink with both of them. (not that it qualifies me to understand them at some sort of deep meaningful level). It’s largely BECAUSE of Jen that I willingly identify myself as a feminist, after years of refusing to because of a lot of angry man-hating 2nd wave feminists that I was exposed to. (even though my mom was a solid 70s family-strike feminist who ROCKED!)

    So, I don’t have a reason to side with one over the other for any reason other than content.

    I read the infamous line as being snark. Not a cutesy joke, but sarcastic pre-emptive snark. Putting the comment out there BEFORE someone could come in an accuse Hemant of being some sort of wanker misogynist who only posted the interview so he could post the picture of the pretty lady in the form fitting jeans and sweater.

    After all, the picture of a very provocative looking Gervais is posted with no interview and minimal content/relevance…I’m happy to admit that these days he’s LOOKING hot as well as sounding hot.

    So. If it had been meant as a derpy joke, yeah, I’d call him out on it too. But it wasn’t, IMO. I also don’t think it was a funny afterthought, but a deliberate comment.

    As always, willing to admit I’m wrong if Hemant says I am.

  • Vicky

    I have read and enjoyed this blog for a long time, and Hemant seems like a very decent guy who respects all sorts of different people. There’s a bunch of examples of him fighting for higher representation for marginalized groups in the atheist movement–thanks, Hemant!

    I also have no issue with people saying that they find Kari attractive. I find Kari extremely attractive, and it’s pretty rare that I even go for women.

    Finally, as Jonathan Figdor says here, there shouldn’t be any “humour police.” Hemant can tell any joke he wants to.

    Now, all of that said: this particular joke made me feel like Kari’s worth was being diminished, and me (and other women) right along with her. I felt unwelcome here when I read it, which is a shock in a space where you’ve felt included for a long time. Nobody is saying Hemant shouldn’t be permitted to say this sort of thing. We’re saying that it is hurtful that he did, whatever his intention.

  • Joolz

    I really cannot understand what all the fuss is about. Hemant is a man and he finds a particular woman attractive – from reading this blog I’m guessing that he finds lots of women attractive, but even more so when they actually show they have brains.

    I’m a woman and I didn’t, and still don’t, see anything Hemant said that could possibly be offensive. It was so obviously tongue in cheek that I really cannot understand the negativity.

    I do the same thing myself – I am currently “forcing” myself to watch the current season of Supernatural – but that could have something to do with the fact that Jensen Ackles is just so pretty!! I know he’s a good actor but I’ll pretty much watch anything he’s in because of his looks (the same goes for Christian Kane). This in no way diminishes their acting talent, but it goes a long way towards why I am watching.

    If the original post had said something along the lines of “wow, this gorgeous chick knows science?” I’d have understood the feminist annoyance, but as it stands I have no understanding.

    Julie

  • http://www.threeninjas.net Three Ninjas

    Vicky said:

    “…this particular joke made me feel like Kari’s worth was being diminished, and me (and other women) right along with her. I felt unwelcome here when I read it…”

    That’s really the bottom line, isn’t it? Actual women are actually feeling unwelcome. If you want to make women feel welcome, listen to feedback like this. If you don’t care about making women feel welcome, say whatever you want. There are no humor police, but a choice of words will still have consequences.

  • Rollingforest

    @Three Ninjas: But how many women felt that way? If a large number did, then we can come to a compromise about these types of situations. But if 99% of women took it as a joke, it isn’t fair to change the group rules just to satisfy that 1%.

  • Bill

    Going from the pictures presented, Alexa’s much hotter than Kari Byron.

    (ducking)

  • Heidi

    Well I fail at being female, apparently. Hemant’s comment made me laugh, and think “yeah, Kari is kind of adorable, isn’t she?” For the record, my Mythbusters nerd crush is Adam. And then Grant. Feel free to post pictures of them, Hemant.

  • Prof Rebecca

    I’m so late for the party but I have to agree that Hemant’s comment was unneccessary and a little off-putting. I’m a woman academic and I deal with sexist comments that are well-meaning on a daily basis. When I defended my dissertation many years ago, my advisor described me as being bright and “easy on the eyes.” My offense was dismissed that day just as Jen and Alexa’s is now. My value was diminished that day. Kari’s was here. Its not about being humorless stick-in-the-mud feminists but about women having the right to say they are offended and their opinions being taken seriously.

  • Shackles2Garlands

    Yup, sorry Hemant, but the ladies who are offended here have a point. I don’t mind going on record that I’m a woman, I watch a lot of porn (not all of it female friendly), and I’m quick to point out hypocritical women. I also find cleaning commercials with women wearing business casual nearly orgasmic scrubbing down their bathroom much more offensive than any fantasy gang-bang on a porn site.

    But yes, the women here offended have a point. I just stumbled on your website by pure chance. I read your post, and dismissed you immediately because of your comment at the end.

    You dropped points right at the end. If I can put it in straight-guy terms, you got what you want, cleaned up, and walked away before you finished her off (although I’m sure there are a lot of same-sex gents out there who have been left fuming in the bedsheets too)>

    Sorry man, it may annoy you, but that’s just too bad. It’s your blog and obviously, you say and do whatever you feel like, but expect to drive some of your women readers away if you cop the attitude “Aw, you ladies just don’t get the joke! She’s smart and HOT! Both my brains are getting off here!”

    Okay, that might have been a bit much there. I apologize, lol.

    But in all seriousness, you WILL lose readership and, frankly, maybe that’s not your concern. It might be you couldn’t care less if these women ever read your blog again.

    But, then again, maybe you do.

    If you do, then I’d sit down with a beverage of your choice, and just contemplate their viewpoint.

    You’re not immediately getting what is upsetting them, which oddly enough is a big kudos to you. This shows me you’re not sexist. That much is obvious, at least to me. If you were, you would have responded to their complaints a lot differently.

    But if you want to be viewed as a worldly and intelligent individual, who does not let pre-conceived notions on gender and sex sprinkle itself into your blog, it’s time for a little extra critical thinking on the matter.

    I do send you a respect fist-punch, and like I said, it’s your choice on what direction you want your blog to go in.

    Respect.

  • Logic316

    Stupid feminazis just aren’t happy unless they politicize everything.

  • Smarks

    OMG! Seriously, I really didn’t think people could get offended by what this blogger said about Kari….I thought it was just a myth that people like that really existed (pun intended).  Kari herself flaunts her sexuality, not as much as some in the entertainment industry do, but she does it and the producers of Mythbusters don’t discourage it at all.  Right now I’m watching  a episode and she is dressed to show off all her curves and showing as much flesh as possible and not be standing out.  People get a life and get a sense of humor, you’ll get through life with out as much drama and be happier…….My two cents.


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