Dave Silverman Appears on FOX To Discuss ‘Inflammatory’ HuffPo Article

I love it when Dave Silverman appears on FOX News Channel.

He was invited on there today, along with religion advocate Sandy Rios, to discuss a recent piece bashing Catholicism on Huffington Post.

The substance of that conversation isn’t all that interesting, but you have to love the way Dave uses his “last word” (starting at the 8:32 mark):

I think he and Sandy just bonded :)

(via Mediaite)

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matt.freshfield Matt Jones

    “Leading conservatives have demanded that the post is taken down…”

    Attempting to silence the non-believers. How traditional!

    • Anonymous

      Freedom of speech only applies when others believe what you say!

      Leave it to the Christian to break the civility.

      • Johnk

        You need to watch this again if you think silverman was being civil. You would never speak to anyone that way unless you wanted to be an irritant. (his specialty).

        • http://www.twitter.com/a_okafor007 Anthony C. Okafor

          So??? WHo gives a fuck???

          • Johnk

            Apparantly curst does, since she pointed out, which is what I was responding to.
            Thanks for chiming in though, especially with foul language.

            • http://www.twitter.com/a_okafor007 Anthony C. Okafor

              cool story bro

  • Christopher

    It was hilarious to me, and also rather accurate as well. They might not like being called cannibalistic, but they are “eating the “flesh” of someone they believe was fully human and fully divine, fully human, yea, that means cannibalism.

    • Anonymous

      Would have been great if they asked what exactly was inaccurate in the story.

  • bigjohn756

    Satire is not humor it’s ridicule. 

    • Matto the Hun

      It can’t be both? If done well, I find it to be so

      • Alice

        Rarely to the party it is ridiculing.

  • Anonymous

    Why the random, “and thank you for believing in nothing” comment from Sandy? Soooo witty!

    • http://profiles.google.com/statueofmike Michael S

       She couldn’t address anything Silverman actually said, so she had to go with her preschool default.

  • Anonymous

    I became an atheist in sixth grade – of catholic school.  One thing that led me to free thought was the hymn “Sons of God”.  The chorus is (to be sung joyously according to the directions):
    Sons of God: Hear His Holy word,
    Gather around the table of the Lord
    Eat His Body, drink His Blood
    And we’ll sing a song of love
    Allelu, allelu, allelu, alleluia.

    Doyle is being criticized for pointing out what these people actually believe.  Read those words!!!!!!  And the nun smacked me when I asked if that meant that cannibalism was OK.

    • dorothy30

      i haven’t heard that ditty in over 30 years! you made my day, as soon as i started reading the words, the tune sprang to mind.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8oPQTyyJlw
      how did i not see the stupidity in it as a child????

    • Matto the Hun

      You should consider yourself lucky that’s all she did. She may well have fried you up and served you to the class for lunch.

  • http://meercat9.com/ Billy Moffat

    Video unavailable! D:

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/ Hemant Mehta

      All fixed!

  • Johnk

    Why won’t silverman answer the questions? He comes across like a snippy kid, then plugs an event. His body language spoke volumes: barely contained rage at something he hates.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/GodVlogger/featured GodVlogger (on YouTube)

       I give David Silverman a lot of credit. He goes on these showing KNOWING that no matter how well he does (and personally I think he did really well in the few dozen seconds he had to speak) there will be fellow atheists who criticize his word choice, his tone, his facial expressions, his body language, his beard vs. no-beard, etc.

      It is true that we all have free speech to critique that David Silverman could have said this, or Dan Barker could have said that, or Annie Laurie Gaylor could have pointed out the other thing, etc..

      But at the end of the day I’m just thrilled that we have these freethought champions who are far more articulate and persuasive than I am, so I am happy to keep sending membership funds and donations to American Atheists, FFRF, etc.

    • http://profiles.google.com/statueofmike Michael S

       Silverman’s body language was twitchy, not raging. In fact, he had a much more well-prepared statement for the end than his counterpart did, and he was giggling as she spoke.

      • Johnk

        That’s true, twitchy is a better description. But we all know an angry smile when we see one!

    • Anonymous

      I think it’s probably pretty hard to do Fox News when you know you’re being brought on as the target, that you’re only going to be given a couple of seconds to respond to complex issues that the host and the other guest will get more time to talk about, and that the other people on the show will be referencing concepts that are regular talking points familiar to Fox viewers, while yours will be a completely foreign point of view that you will not have any time to expand on or clarify.

  • Greisha

    The piece in HP looks more like a drunken runt than an article. 

    Comparing Catholicism to Christianity is strange – as a former Catholic boy he should know that Catholicism was the original Christianity.  Invoking Nazi or his Internet “research” on NAMBLA is ridiculous.

    Mental cannibalism part was a fair bit, but it did not lead to any meaningful conclusion – just runt. 

    Using old KKK claims about Catholic president who follows the Pope commands and “hinting” on the end of JFK presidency was plain low.

    One can’t even use ends justifies means excuse because what he wrote did not promote any ends.

    Silverman was OK/fair.  He was right about free speech and his joke about poor Catholic church was good,   He did not, however, answer question about the reaction to Koran burning that was awful (reaction on both sides).  In reality he did not have anything to defend the author, so I would not go too hard on him.

    • http://profiles.google.com/statueofmike Michael S

       Where was the question about Koran burning?

    • Brian Scott

      I’m pretty sure the piece was satire, mean to invoke the same type of hysterics present in a lot of fundamentalist Protestant writings against organisations they don’t like (e.g. trying to link current gay rights movements to NAMBLA).

  • Keulan

    I thought Dave Silverman did well, considering it was on Fox “News.” I wonder why they keep bringing him on for discussions and such when his views are clearly the opposite of their conservative, pro-Christianity bias.

    • Anonymous

      Fox brings on guests they know their viewers won’t like for the purpose of sensationalism, with the bonus benefit of being able to claim it as evidence that their presentation of the news if “fair and balanced.”  Note that, from the beginning, the host frames the discussion in terms of the article being outrageous and offensive to Catholics and Christians.  The conservative Christian guest then gets to give an emotion rant to rile up the viewer.  Then Silverman gets to say a few words while the viewer mutters “Rassm frassm atheists…”, meanwhile not really digesting any of the alien concepts he’s trying to introduce within an extremely limited window.  Then the host asks a leading question about how Christianity’s always a target but not other religions and the first guest gets to spew some emotional stuff about how liberals love Islam so much.  Then they give the atheist a tiny window to conclude before the segment gets cut off.  This way it looks like “Hey!  Fox even gave him the final word,” even though the first guest’s mic was left on and she was allowed to take a potshot as the segment was closing.  The Christian guest and the host get the majority of the segment to stir up negative emotions toward liberals and atheists, and the atheist just gets a couple of seconds to chime in.  It’s how Fox rolls.  They used to have Christopher Hitchens on periodically because his talking points sounded totally alien and weird to the Fox demographic and his delivery could easily be construed as rude and hateful, thus reinforcing negative preconceptions of atheists.  He also always made for good TV.  That’s what Fox News is all about.  They’re a business first, a three-ring circus second, conservative propaganda third, and any other role they fill is way, way, way down the list of priorities.

      • T-Rex

        Bingo!

  • Xeon2000

    I always had this thought that communion derived via the cultural influence of earlier pagan cults in which consuming the blood and/or flesh of something allowed you to take in its “essence”. Christians just symbolized it because they stopped worship animals and couldn’t find their “God” to hunt and eat.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CO4XFS7IXIESALGRH5RJLDUTHE p

      But is not a symbol. As an ex catholic in the sense of a child who attended church schools in the UK it’s a lesser known  but important part of the faith that the communion host/ bread is not a symbol of the body of christ but at every mass , a “miracle” occurs and it actually becomes the body without changing its appearance . Barmy I know but there you have it.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation 

  • http://politicsandpucks.blogspot.com Mike Brownstein

    Ok, here’s my point I’ve been making within Purdue Non-Theists. It’s a challenge to Dave Silverman…do a non-Fox News interview.

    The fact that Silverman is more interested in fighting Fox News head on shows he thinks he can cherry-pick the disillusioned Christians. You know what, they’re probably not watching Fox News. They’re watching other networks that don’t cater to the Religious Right and other conservative interests.

  • Anonymous

    I actually prefer a RITZ cracker, with a little slice of cheese………  Maybe they could substitute a little chunk of pepperoni for the body of christ…..


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