Muslim Cleric: If Women Don’t Want to Get Raped, Politicians Should Make it Illegal for Them to Dress Provocatively

York University (in Canada) has been the site of several sexual assaults over the past few weeks and students are angry because they don’t feel the school has done enough to prevent future attacks.

They’re really not going to like this.

Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana, a Muslim cleric, wrote to the Toronto Sun to offer his own suggestions as to how these crimes can be stopped:

Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana (Terry Davidson – Toronto Sun)

I wanted to mention that the reason why these sex attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these sex attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being sexually assaulted in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets raped is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death.

If the law enforcements and the Canadian politicians were very serious about solving this problem, they would introduce laws that would make it illegal for women to dress provocatively in the streets. It is true that many people would object to this if that were to happen. and this will definitely create protests and opposition. However by arresting sexual predators is not going to solve the problem because as long women continue to dress like this there will always be perverts and rapist who will continue to remain on the loose.

The whole letter is beyond idiotic, but that last line is the kicker for me: If women dress a certain way, we should blame them for whatever the perverts/rapists do.

Nowhere in the letter does he call on the rapists to not rape them. Because, you know, that would be crazy.

It’s possible the whole thing could be a Poe. Atangana’s website looks like a four-year-old made it… but there are pictures of the guy and responses to his letter. (Just FYI, even other Muslims are saying this guy’s full of shit.)

And then, just to capitalize on the inevitable hordes of people coming to their site to see this letter, the Toronto Sun editors, in all their wisdom, also created what has to be the most gratuitous use of an online poll ever:

I can’t even decide which of the first two options to vote for…

You know, we’ve seen this problem all over the Internet where women (and some men) try to explain the concepts of misogyny and feminism to people who just don’t get it. This might be a better way to educate them. Just make them read this letter. They’ll stop arguing immediately.

(Thanks to Richard for the link)

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  • http://www.laughinginpurgatory.com/ Andrew Hall

    Perhaps the good cleric would agree to punishing the rape victim if she had been wearing “provocative” garments?

  • http://twitter.com/vogelbeere Yvonne Aburrow

    Worrying that 1192 people have voted for the “He has a point” option on the poll, albeit a small percentage of those who have voted.

    Words fail me in trying to offer some sort of coherent comment on his opinions. I am just sitting here thinking “What an arsehole” over and over again. Fortunately there are many articulate feminist deconstructions of rape culture, and why the “women who dress ‘provocatively’ are asking for it” argument is obviously completely and utterly false.

    • Nataly Burgess

      Words fail me in trying to offer some sort of coherent comment on feminists nowadays. From ancient times women could rule, fight and be equal with men if they deserve that. Men have stiff competition in their society, and weak guys get no profit in life. If you are strong and wise – there is no matter what gender you are, you’ll succeed. Feminists just yell that women are held as slaves and that nobody listens to them. Thing is, nobody listens to complete morons – no matter black, white, male, female, earthling or martian humanoid.

      • Slow Learner

        Troll or Poe?

        • http://twitter.com/FelyxLeiter Felyx Leiter

          Martian humanoid.

          • amycas

             I love the part where xe said women can be equal to men “if they deserve that.”

            • Angel

              I have problem if women cover themselves and if  they do i bet there doing it out the goodness of thier heart. Plus i think most people people forget that there women to, they have a beating heart that feels too. So lets try to be more respectful to them. Ohh and dont always follow what the media says. And yes women should be equel to men.

        • Stev84

           The thing with Poes is that you can’t tell by definition

      • http://friendlyatheist.com Richard Wade

        Words fail me in trying to offer some sort of coherent comment on feminists nowadays.

        Words failing you still didn’t stop you from offering your incoherent comment anyway. 

        • Tr

           That’s because I drink a lot, that makes mу think of weird things.

        • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

          YO Dick,

          Last time I looked I was living in a democracy – Free Speech etc.

          Take your head out of your arsehole & give a Muslim a go!

      • Thackerie

         Yep. You’re right about nobody listening to complete morons. Nobody’s listening to you.

      • Patterrssonn

        You should try listening to feminists on earth, theyre much more rational than the ones from your planet.

        Or maybe your translation device has confused feminist for MRA.

      • Baby_Raptor

        Come back when you have two brain cells you can rub together and half an idea of what Feminism actually is. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

          YO BABE,

          FEMINISM IS DICK-TATORSHIP!

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Yvonne,

      Its BECAUSE of the ARSEHOLE that Muslims will MOUNT ANYTHING. 

      And when you see the ARSES  of some of the Homo sapien “Cows” today, you can’t blame Muslims for being confused.

      For a Muslim ANY ARSEHOLE will do!

  • http://twitter.com/funkyderek Derek Walsh

    If Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana  doesn’t want to get kicked in the balls repeatedly, politicians should make it illegal for him to be such a raving fuckwit.

  • http://twitter.com/AchronTimeless Achron Timeless

    He wants laws about what women can wear? Gee.. I wander what muslim-boy thinks the women should be allowed to wear. Could it be a burka by some random chance?

    • digitalatheist

      not that good burka wearing muslim women ever get raped and stoned for getting raped… or at least a year in prison.

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Timeless,

      We could get rid of the BURKA overnight, if CRIMINALS would start wearing them “on the job”!

      And when those STUPID BLACKS rob stores, KNOWING IT HAS CCTV installed, without BURKAS, it makes me mad.

      Come on!

      Wear a BURKA & scare the SH-T out of someone TODAY!

  • http://profiles.google.com/julielada Julie Lada

    Did you guys know that it’s possible to be attentioned to death?

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Julie,

      I see you attend Ross University School of Veterinary Medicine, so you will be able to tell us all about FEMALES HAVING SEX WITH ANIMALS.

      OK, Julie?

  • K Tsojane

    The truth of the matter is that perverts don’t need revealing clothes as motivation to do sexual acts. Their imagination alone is suffient to elicit them to commit these offenses. Rape also happens to women that aren’t dressed provocatively, so this argument of the fellow collapses and dies right there.

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO K,

      NO, NO, NO!

      Muslims have RAPED thousands of females in places like Sweden, Holland etc in the past few years & the MEDIA have tried hard to cover it up. PUPS as young as 13, have gone around in GANG BANG GROUPS & RAPPED; when police came to the door of one of them, who was caught, his MOTHER said, 

      “YOU CANNOT BLAME A DOG FOR EATING MEAT LEFT OUT IN THE STREET”!

      UNDERSTAND THE MINDSET OF THE CULTURE!

  • Chaucers Left Testicle

    Ahh! The sweet sound of moderate Islam..

  • Jennie

    Do people not understand?  Rape is nothing to do with sexual gratification, it is an exercise in power……almost the ultimate expression of power over another person…sex is just the weapon.

    • newavocation

      Religion is a weapon too!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4AAPMJK52N5YKKWX55C36QHRQ Jorge

        I agree. They use religion as an excuse to do what ever they want and try to justify it and blame the victim. It’s all about power and control.

        • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

          YO Jorge,

          Even in NATURE there are PARASITES.

          Get YOUR head out of your arse & give the cleric a go! 

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO NEWA,

        Which do you want? 

        THE JUNGLE or RELIGION?

    • m6wg4bxw

      I don’t doubt that power-tripping plays a part, but your statement is naive. 
      To borrow from an analogy used by Glasofruix…  That’s like saying that bank robbery has nothing to do with acquiring money.

      • amycas

         …Yes, let’s all ignore the countless psychological studies that have been done on rapists and those who sexually assault and listen to a random person from the internet.

        • m6wg4bxw

          My objection is to a categorical negative. Even if most or all rape is “an exercise in power,” I don’t believe that sexual gratification plays no part in the act.

          Perhaps I suffer from — aside from Internet randomness — a case of personal incredulity. It’s merely my opinion. Please don’t ignore any psychological studies on my account. 

          • I_Claudia

            Actually sexual gratification playing a part is not mutually exclusive with the initial statement about power. A rapist derives sexual gratification from the act of violence and control. Thus, the primary stimulus has little to nothing to do with the attraction to an individual woman, because sexual attraction is not really the dominant motivator, vulnerability is.

            Of course, rape is often used as a weapon to punish “unruly” or “rebellious” women, or simply as an outlet for the frustrations of a sick individual. In those cases, women dressed in a manner society does not approve of can be at greater risk, NOT because their attractiveness becomes to high, but rather because a rapist knows such a woman will be more likely to be belittled, not believed or outright told she was “asking for it”.

            • m6wg4bxw

              It’s a good thing I’m not a rapist. Based on the feedback I’ve received, I’d apparently be doing it wrong. When I consider committing the act of rape, sexual gratification is much more motivating than exercising my power. I have much to learn.

              • Patterrssonn

                We already know you have much to learn but from your posts it’s hard to tell if you have enough brain function to accomplish it.

                • m6wg4bxw

                  Do you care to weigh-in on whether sexual sexual gratification plays a part in rape? That’s what I’ve been discussing. And while questioning my brain function is quite a compelling case for changing my perspective on this, I’d rather be persuaded by something more informative (and relevant).

                • Patterrssonn

                  Well since Claudia has fairly conclusively answered your question already and you’ve come up wih the grotesquely moronic phrase “it’s a good thing I’m not a rapist”, questioning your intelligence is definitely relevant. Of course you might not be a total moron, perhaps you’re just a Libertarian.

                • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

                  YO P,

                  Are you a COW or a BULL?

                • Patterrssonn

                  You know it’s odd but no one’s ever asked me that question before. Are you asking my gender?

              • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

                YO xyz,

                YOU will NEVER understand WOMEN.

            • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

              YO I-Claudia,

              The SIMPLE fact is, the MALE Homo sapien is confused!

              In NATURE, the BITCH comes into HEAT & sends out a chemical message to ALL DOGS to come & MOUNT her.

              When the BITCH of Homo sapien goes “out in the town” & “dressed to attract”, the BITCH is sending out the “MESSAGE”, “I’m looking to be mounted”!

              The Male Dogs of Homo sapiens are aroused & try & mount her. Some succeed, some don’t & have to do with a WANK.

              In the JUNGLE:

              Its all down to ESTROGEN & TESTOSTERONE. 

              • http://twitter.com/InMyUnbelief TCC

                You are a disgusting individual.

                • Patterrssonn

                  Please TCC you’re feeding the troll, or at least a crap poe.

                  Edit. Actually I just read a few of his posts I think the guys just a fucking idiot.

          • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

            YO xyz,

            ITS RAPE WHEN THE “COW” SAYS IT IS. OK?

        • guest

           you both have valid points and if you do in fact know about psychological research you’ll find that a lot of it is contradictory and something as complex as this phenomena there is no definitive answer, another point to make is that some rapists after the incident will then self gratify over the memory suggesting some sexual gratification is gained.

          • guest

             (oh and just to point out I am a random on the internet but I also have a  Psychology degree and am very familiar with these kind of debates and no Psychologist worth their salt would say “all sexual assault is an of power” you need to also look at the many variations of rape, a drunk woman who half way through says no and a male who decides to carry on is probably thinking more of sexual gratification in that moment in time than power)

            • m6wg4bxw

              I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice the over-simplification here. …Not that it matters, and I’m not sure why I thought I should bother sharing my opinion. 
              Thanks for adding to the discussion, random or not.

          • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

            YOU guest,

            Behavior is learned. Disregard for other people, violence…
            It all has to be taught. Children seeing or experiencing physical or sexual
            violence demonstrates that it is acceptable and perpetuates the cycle of abuse.
            That is the same for both genders.

             

            Abuse is a human problem and not a gender problem?  Abuse manifests itself in cycles and patterns?
            For example, perhaps a domineering abusive mother’s father was abusive to her,
            so she became abusive to her son, and her son became abusive to his children
            (if he didn’t become a murderous rapist)? If abuse runs in families like this,
            then why do we concentrate so much on “men’s violence”, when we
            should be concentrating on “human violence”?

        • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

          YO amycas,

          Did you hear about the SNAKE who died after biting a “COW” in the TIT. 

          It died from SILICONE POISON.

      • sammy

         yes actually rape is power and control based. educate yourself on the psychology of it.

        • http://www.last.fm/user/m6wg4bxw m6wg4bxw

          The message to which you replied indicates that I acknowledge power as a component. My objection was to the assertions that rape isn’t about sexual gratification. Educate yourself on what I’ve posted.

    • The Other Weirdo

       I wonder, though. That may be true in Western societies, but is it really true in sexually repressed ones?

      And besides, which people are you referring to? Regular people on the street or that idiot who’s the subject of the article?

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO Weirdo,

        He is NOT an idiot! He is a VICTIM of his CULTURE.

        When you have studied the Quran, Hadiths & The History of Islam, you will see, IF POSSIBLE, that RAPE & PLUNDER runs through his veins.

        ALSO.

        If you had studied The Babylonian Talmud, you will see where the PERVERT MINDSET OF HOLLYWOOD comes from.

        “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is
        nothing, for when the girl is less than this (three years and a day) it is as
        if one put the finger into the eye.” The footnote says that as “tears come
        to the eye again and again, so does virginity come back to the little girl
        under three years.” Kethuboth 11b. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Jennie,

      Do people not understand? Abortion is nothing to do with LIFE, it is an exercise in power….IS the ultimate expression of power over another person…abortion is just the weapon.

      THE
      AMERICAN HOLOCAUST

       

      What is the total number of
      legal abortions since 1973?

      Since the legalization of abortion in 1973,
      there have been approximately 50 million abortions performed in the United States.

      Source: Guttmacher Institute,
      2011, August. Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States.

      How many abortions are
      performed in the United
      States each year?

      According to the Guttmacher Institute, there
      were 1.21 million abortions
      performed in the United
      States in 2008, the most recent year for
      which data is available. This amounts to 3,322
      abortions per day.

      Source: Jones, Rachel K. and
      Kathryn Kooistra. “Abortion Incidence and Access to Services in the United States,
      2008.” Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health 43, no. 1 (2011,
      March): 41-50 

  • Trololo

    Guys, in a way he really does have some point. It’s all about self-awareness and personal safety. You typically don’t go to ghetto at night, waving a solid pile of $100 bills in one hand and all-golden Vertu phone in another, because that kind of behaviour will obviously lead you to being mugged or even beaten. No matter if criminals are held in prison or not, there will always be aggressive people and you should be aware of them. The same thing with wearing, say, Orioles hoodie in presence of Yankees fans. And SAME with women. Just don’t provoke offenders. Freedom doesn’t mean you should be stupid, don’t think about your safety and yell everywhere that you are victim of discrimination. Think about consequencies – isn’t this the thing  that all the parents teach their children?

    • Stev84

      The prevalence of rape is just as high in Muslim countries. The difference is that it’s hardly reported because it’s usually the women who end up being punished for dishonoring their families and not being virgins anymore. In sharia law, the standards of evidence are also stacked against women to the point of being unprovable.

      Sexual harassment is also an everyday occurrence there. Muslim men never learned how to deal with women. They also go nuts whenever they see a little bit of skin because they aren’t used to anything. They get just as aroused by revealing clothing, but their standards of “revealing” are ridiculous.

      • Trololo

        Totally agree to this, but we’re speaking about personal safety, not about Muslims. They have their own problems. And we are proud for being so advanced and having all the humanistic rights, we just forget to use our intelligence. That’s bad.

        • amycas

           My personal safety should have nothing to do with what I’m wearing, especially since there has been no study that links “provocative dress*” with sexual assault.

          *YMMV

      • http://profiles.google.com/julielada Julie Lada

         Did you just reply to someone whose name is “Trololo” who made an argument for rape being the victim’s fault? Come on, think this through.

        • Revyloution

          Totally Julie.  Someone who can’t see the difference between flashing expensive things in a crime prone neighborhood, and a woman in downtown Toronto wearing a mini skirt and a cute shirt is a mental midget.  I hope he takes the time to read the posts above that explain that rape isn’t perpetrated by men who get out of control by looking at cute girls,  it’s done by men who want to feel powerful and like humiliating women.  I’d bet that forcing women to wear a particular garment doesn’t reduce the rape-rate in any substantial way.

    • Tim

      We can have a discussion about crime-prevention and precautions for personal safety that women (and men) can take some other time.

      But this isn’t what this Fuckwit is saying.  He actually wants to make it illegal for women to wear clothing that he deems provocative and he is trying to blame the victims. 

      He is an idiot. 

      I speak as a man who is atracted to women both those dressed modestly and those dressed provocatively.  I’ve never raped anyone and find offensive the idea that I would want to rape anyone (I see an attractive woman in the street and I might think that I want to have sex with them but that doesn’t mean that I want to rape them – I am certain that I wouln’t get a kick out of non-consential sex.  Even if I had no morals or fear of the law it just wouldn;t appeal to me having sex with someone who wasn’t into it too and it would tak a lot of fucked up conditioning for me to get turned on by even the idea of forcing myself onto someone)

    • Pollo Diablo

      Oh yeah, makes sense! Because York University is the sex offender equivalent of a ghetto, and wearing a low neckline, short skirt or body hugging clothes are totally just as over the top as waving around bricks of cash and a golden phone!

    • http://www.phoenixgarage.org/ Uradumbass

       Guess what, cupcake:  Just because I am in a “ghetto at night, waving a solid pile of $100 bills in one hand and all-golden Vertu phone in another”, does not give /anyone/ the right to assault me.

  • Danitoba

     Matt Gurney of the National Post responded to the Sun article and makes a point we should heed.

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/07/16/a-guy-on-the-street-told-me-im-going-to-hell-would-the-sun-like-the-scoop/

  • The Regina Universe

    Using Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana’s own philosophy, it is MEN who should be placed behind bars until they can prove they will not rape women.  Wouldn’t that make more sense than restricting what women wear?  Ridiculous!

    • Graham Martin-Royle

      I fully agree, if men cannot control their urges when they see women, then it is not the women who need to change, it is the men. Maybe we should start a campaign to have male eyes removed when they become adults if they are religious and cannot be trusted (it’s a religious requirement to have foreskins removed so, what’s good for one body part must be good for another, yes?).

      • Wat32

         OK, if your going to lock us up because we are all potential rapists, I demand individual cells and separate showers since we might start raping each other ( I hear this happens in prisons).

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO GM-R,

        I REPEAT: 

        THERE IS NO RAPE IN A JUNGLE!

        WE HAVE DECIDED TO LIVE IN A JUNGLE!

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Regina,

      When the Prophet of Islam looked into HELL, he said it was FULL of women.

      How come, he was asked?

      BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T DO WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO DO!

      UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE!

  • InvincibleIronyMan

    The answer is simple. Men shouldn’t be allowed out to wander the streets on their own without a female chaperone to stop them from raping people.

    • The Other Weirdo

       We’d probably just rape the chaperones. We’re men. We’re like little children without an ounce of self-control, self-awareness  or self-reflection. We automatically go into rape mode whenever we see a flash of skin. Man, this guy’s got us all figured out. Or just projecting his own inadequacies unto the rest of us.

      • Coolcat1997

        It not all men you know plus dont affend other people religion you sound like a weirdo

  • Michael

    Definitely hogwash. It starts with the falsehood that modestly dressed women do not get raped and moves further from reality as it progresses.

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO MICKEY,

      WOMEN RAPE BOYS ALL THE TIME.

      GOOGLE IT!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ORRVVC5R2QWLTXEM6SX5L6BORE Jay Arrrr

    What is it about Islam that makes men unable to control their  hatred of women, since rape isn’t about seeing a “hot chick” and wanting to get your rocks off, but control and humiliation.

    • Stev84

      It’s really not just Islam, but the desert religions in general. Fundamentalist Jews and fundamentalist Christians have the exact same mentality. Fundamentalist Christians are huge about girls and women dressing “modestly”. It’s taught from a very young age and they also sexualize girls from early on. So do ultra-orthodox Jews. Muslims have just take it the farthest and of course in the Middle East and some African countries, they have the force of the law on their side.

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO Stev84,

        YOU ARE A MORON!

        Talmudic Judaism teaches:

        Sex with a “Minor” Permitted

        What exactly did these sages say?
        The Pharisees justified child rape by explaining that a boy of nine years was
        not a “man” Thus they exempted him from God’s Mosaic Law: 
        “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination”
        (Leviticus. 18:22)
        One passage in the Talmud gives permission for a woman who molested her young
        son to marry a high priest. It concludes, 

        “All agree that the (sexual) connection of a boy aged nine years and
        a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is
        not.”  Sanhedrin
        69b 5

        Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can’t
        “throw guilt” on the active offender, morally or legally. 6

        “…the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual
        act.” 7 
        The Talmud also says, 

        “A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his
        deceased brother’s wife acquires her (as wife).”8

        Clearly, the Talmud teaches that a woman is permitted to
        marry and have sex with a nine year old boy.

        5 Sanhedrin 69b. 

        6 Sanhedrin 55a. 

        7 Footnote 1 to Kethuboth 11b. 

        8 Sanhedrin 55b. 

    • The Other Weirdo

       It’s not just them. Fundamentalist Christians and Jews are pretty much the same way. The only real difference is that Muslim culture permits it, while the wider culture in which the other two groups live does not.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ORRVVC5R2QWLTXEM6SX5L6BORE Jay Arrrr

         Yes, the wider culture for the most part does frown on it, but do I recall reading about some ultra-orthodox neighbourhoods in NYC where the Hebrew  “Scholars” are pretty brutal to any goyim women who come through the neighbourhood?
        Some of the fundy Christian cults I’m familiar with criticize “worldly” women for immodest dress and not being subject to some man, but I don’t recall even the most out-there rattlesnake handler advocating normal western dress as justification for rape.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, orphan

        let’s not leave out all the other ‘non-desert’ traditions. hell, you can go all the way back to some ancient pagan religions. misogyny is almost built in to organized religions. the faiths of modern day asia, africa and other non-monotheistic cultures have plenty examples of this sort of shit, if you look for it. for some reason, the invisible beings that guide believers have a hate on for grrls, most of the time. we’re icky and need to be controlled. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

          YO Dick van Dyke,

          It is CLEAR that BITCHES are returning back to Goddess religion:

          SHEELA-NA-GIG AMULET

          The famous Sheela-Na-Gig, an image of a
          grinning, imp-like bald woman holding open her exaggeratedly enlarged vulva.

          Although some people think of them as
          pagan in origin, archaeological evidence indicates that Sheela-Na-Gigs
          originated during the Medieval era, where they were intended by Christian
          sculptors to function as a warning to women against the sins of immodesty and
          passion. Sheelas can be found in Romanesque churches throughout Europe,
          including the continent and Great Britain,
          but it is in Ireland
          that they are most numerous.

          If the Irish did not invent the
          Sheela-Na-Gig, they certainly named her, for the term Sheela-Na-Gig seems to be
          Gaelic in origin, although its meaning is disputed. (The derivation i favour is
          that Sheela-Na-Gig is an aural misrendering of Sidhe Lena Gig — pronounced
          Shee-Lena-Gig — which literally means “Fairy Woman (Sidhe) With Her (Lena) Big Genital Appendage (Gig).”)

          One theory that accounts for the
          enduring popularity of Sheela-Na-Gigs in Ireland is that these stone
          carvings became “lucky” emblems to the Goddess-loving Irish, who,
          upon entering the churches where they were supposed to shun or feel chastened
          by the impudent, ugly little women, instead took to touching the Sheelas’
          privates to gain the blessings she bestowed.

          In modern times, folks who honour women
          spiritually have reclaimed the Sheela-Na-Gig as a symbol of feisty female strength
          and humour.

          Cast in pewter, this talismanic
          Sheela-Na-Gig is strung on a black cord, ready to wear — and, yes, you can rub
          her little thang for good luck! 

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO WEIRDO,

        YOU ARE ANOTHER MORON!

        Talmudic Judaism teaches:

        Sex at Three Years and One Day

        In contrast to Simeon ben Yohai’s dictum that sex with a
        little girl is permitted under the age of three years, the general teaching of
        the Talmud is that the rabbi must wait until a day after her third birthday.
        She could be taken in marriage simply by the act of rape.

        R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day
        may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother
        cohabits with her, she becomes his. (Sanhedrin 55b)

        A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by
        cohabitation. . . .(. Yebamoth 57b)

        A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by
        coition, and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabited with her she becomes
        his. (Sanhedrin. 69a, 69b, also discussed in Yebamoth. 60b)

        It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the
        age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said,
        But all the women children that have not known man by lying with him, keep
        alive for yourselves, and Phineas (who was priest, the footnote says) surely
        was with them. (Yebamoth. 60b)

        [The Talmud says such three year and a day old girls are] . . . fit
        for cohabitation. . . But all women children, that have not known man by lying
        with him, it must be concluded that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for
        cohabitation. (Footnote to Yebamoth. 60b)

        The example of Phineas, a priest, himself marrying an
        underage virgin of three years is considered by the Talmud as proof that such
        infants are “fit for cohabitation.”

        The Talmud teaches that an adult woman’s molestation of a
        nine year old boy is “not a sexual act” and cannot “throw
        guilt” upon her because the little boy is not truly a “man.” 9 But
        they use opposite logic to sanction rape of little girls aged three years and
        one day: Such infants they count as “women,” sexually mature and fully
        responsible to comply with the requirements of marriage.
        The Talmud footnotes 3 and 4 to Sanhedrin 55a clearly tell us when the rabbis
        considered a boy and girl sexually mature and thus ready for marriage. “At
        nine years a male attains sexual matureness… The sexual matureness of woman is
        reached at the age of three.”

        9 Sanhedrin 55a. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Jay,

      Question: 
      Was Islam’s “perfect man” sexually
      restrained?

      Summary Answer: 

      Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he
      pleased, thanks to Allah’s extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as
      immortalized in the Qur’an.

      Although the Qur’an didn’t have the space for
      addressing topics like universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes
      insist are there, but aren’t), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was
      entitled to is detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes
      in reference to specific persons (Zaynab & Mary).

      Muhammad was married to thirteen women,
      including eleven at one time. He relegated them to either consecutive days or
      (according to some accounts) all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and
      even his adopted son’s wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave
      girls and concubines with whom he had sex – sometimes on the very days in which
      they had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army.

      So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the
      world’s most sexually restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually
      indulgent characters in history.

       

      ALLAH & 6 YEAR
      OLD BRIDES

      Like Muhammad, Muslims are looking for a 6 year
      old child to marry. They will “thigh” with her until she is fully
      mature, when she is 9; then they will have full sexual intercourse with her.
      She might squeal like a pig while their large penis repeatedly enters her small
      vagina. But Allah wills it, so it got to be OK.

      O yeah, thighing is where they put their penis
      between her thighs & masturbate until they cum and then shoot their
      “load” all over the place:

      Erectile Dysfunction

       

      AISHA
      WASHING SEMEN FROM MUHAMMED’S CLOTHES

      From the Hadith of Bukhari:

      Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229:

      Narrated ‘Aisha:

      I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from
      the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water
      were still on it (water spots were still visible).

      Volume 1, Book 4, Number 231:

      Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar:

      I asked ‘Aisha about the clothes soiled with
      semen. She replied, “I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah’s Apostle
      and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. “

  • Glasofruix

    Banks don’t want to get robbed, politicians should make it illegal for them to handle money.

  • SoulMan

    what an imbecile…is this kind of thinking really prevalent in the Muslim world? ridiculous

  • Sara Mallory

    Leave it to the Sun to give a platform for this nutjob.  The Sun is basically Fox News North.  This dude would be nothing more that an annoying street preacher if the Sun didn’t decide to give him the attention he so desires.

  • Matto the Hun

    By his reasoning… it should be illegal for people (especially clerics of any stripe) to say moronic things like this because it only incites me to commit violence against them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO MATTIE,

      WOMEN ARE THE MOST VIOLENT BITCHES ON THE PLANET!

      THE
      AMERICAN HOLOCAUST

       

      What is the total number of
      legal abortions since 1973?

      Since the legalization of abortion in 1973,
      there have been approximately 50 million abortions performed in the United States.

      Source: Guttmacher Institute,
      2011, August. Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States.

      How many abortions are
      performed in the United
      States each year?

      According to the Guttmacher Institute, there
      were 1.21 million abortions
      performed in the United
      States in 2008, the most recent year for
      which data is available. This amounts to 3,322
      abortions per day.

      Source: Jones, Rachel K. and
      Kathryn Kooistra. “Abortion Incidence and Access to Services in the United States,
      2008.” Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health 43, no. 1 (2011,
      March): 41-50 

  • m6wg4bxw

    I wonder how often women wearing burqas are raped. I wonder how this cleric would excuse men who rape women wearing burqas (if they exist). I wonder how burqa-related sexual fetishism fits into all of this. 

    • Tr

       Personally I think he does not excuse rapists. He just says that dressing like Nookie leads to certain consequencies :) All of you, Americans, have very strange understanding of what RIGHT is.

      ‘MERICA

      • amycas

         The way women dress does not lead to anything. There is no correlation between how provocative* a woman dresses and her likelihood of getting raped.

        You say we have a strange understanding of what “right” is? Are you talking about human rights, or “right” int he context of morality? If it’s human rights: I do not lose my human rights to bodily autonomy because I wear a short skirt or other provocative* clothing.
        If it’s morality: Style of dress is almost decidedly a-moral. A skirt or low-cut top is neither moral nor immoral. You would think that the person raping would be the one condemned for immoral behavior.

        *ymmv

      • http://www.facebook.com/Tracy.Bradley1 Tracy Bradley

        So… only women who are dressed ‘like Nookie’ get raped? Really?

    • Salchikc

      Women who are raped that wear burqas are not raped they commit adultery and are stoned to death and/or are imprisoned for committing adultery.  Rape only exists for women if there is 4 male witnesses to state that she really was raped. Then and only with 4 male witnesses that seen the rape would the rapist be imprisoned.  Then the rapist can go and marry the woman he raped and get out of jail early as now nobody else would want the damaged goods.

  • Annie

    So, if I happen to be a kleptomaniac with a hat fetish, and I ran up to Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana and stole his tagiyah right off his head, it would be his fault for wearing something so tempting to me? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Annie,

      YOU WOULDN’T DO IT A SECOND TIME, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE IN SAUDI ARABIA. 

    • Salchikc

      nope then the muslims would say to cut off the hand you stole with. lol see how hypocritical they are  yet they call the Western civilization hypocrites. lol

  • I_Claudia

    A funny thing has happened with my reactions to the most disgusting sexist rape-apologists. Their disregard for the dignity and autonomy of women is so extreme that I break through some kind of nausea event horizon and my brain simply refuses to contemplate the monstrosity of the “argument”.
     
    Instead, I find myself deeply irritated and indignant on behalf of…men. Seriously, think of how insulting these statements are for a man. He’s essentially telling men “All men are rapists really, and lack even the most fundamental self-control. Women have to cover up because obviously men are too primitive, sex-crazy and itching for the chance at sexual assault to be expected to act decently”.

    Obviously this little turd is offensive to all women everywhere, but surely men must find his message personally offensive as well.

    • Tim

      I agree Claudia.  It kind of reminds me of these Jesus and Mo T-shirts.  http://www.cafepress.com/jmoshop.111888517

      It isn’t just the implication that men have no self control that is offensive to men.  The implication that it is self-control or male morality which is the only thing that is stopping me raping is pretty offensive too.   Even if I was a complete amoral Asshat with no fear of getting caught I wouldn;t go around raping women.  Most normal men realise that consentual sex is more fun.  If I was an amoral Asshot, I’d go round seducing women not raping them. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO Tim,

        We are living in a Jungle. 

        There are No Laws! Presidents can sanction MURDER whenever it suits them.

        The Muslim cleric knows that and tries to CONTROL what is happening around him.

        Problem with Islam is that its Prophet “THIGHED” with a 6 year old & when she was 9, he had FULL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH HER.

        Oh yeah! THIGHING IS WHEN THE MUSLIM PUTS HIS LANGER BETWEEN THE CHILD’S THIGHS & MASTURBATES.

        OK?

        GET THE MESSAGE?

        Erectile Dysfunction

         

        AISHA WASHING SEMEN FROM
        MUHAMMED’S CLOTHES

        From the Hadith of Bukhari:

        Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229:

        Narrated ‘Aisha:

        I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from
        the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water
        were still on it (water spots were still visible).

        Volume 1, Book 4, Number 231:

        Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar:

        I asked ‘Aisha about the clothes soiled with
        semen. She replied, “I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah’s Apostle
        and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. ”

        Volume 1, Book 4, Number 232:

        Narrated ‘Amr bin Maimun:

        I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the
        clothes soiled with semen. He said that ‘Aisha had said, “I used to wash
        it off the clothes of Allah’s Apostle and he would go for the prayers while
        water spots were still visible on them.

        Volume 1, Book 4, Number 233:

        Narrated ‘Aisha:

        I used to wash the semen off the clothes of 

    • The Other Weirdo

       On the one hand, I want to be offended by what this guy said. After all, just because he lacks the basic skills of dealing with women doesn’t mean the rest of drop into automatic rape mode from which there is no exit until we’re done. On the other hand, how can you be offended by what the obviously mentally ill have to say about anything at all?

      • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

        YO WEIRDO,

        You are ignorant of the SEXUAL DRIVE of Muslims. The Donkeys in their countries go around in pairs, to confuse the Muslims. When they see ASS they immediately “MOUNT IT”.

        So the 2 Donkey TRICK confuse the Muslim; he doesn’t know which one to mount & he’s left standing there with his LANGER in his hand. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO I-Claudia,

      When you talk about women, you are talking about a very small %, the larger & are COWS.

      THE
      AMERICAN HOLOCAUST

       

      What is the total number of
      legal abortions since 1973?

      Since the legalization of abortion in 1973,
      there have been approximately 50 million abortions performed in the United States.

      Source: Guttmacher Institute,
      2011, August. Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States.

      How many abortions are
      performed in the United
      States each year?

      According to the Guttmacher Institute, there
      were 1.21 million abortions
      performed in the United
      States in 2008, the most recent year for
      which data is available. This amounts to 3,322
      abortions per day.

      Source: Jones, Rachel K. and
      Kathryn Kooistra. “Abortion Incidence and Access to Services in the United States,
      2008.” Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health 43, no. 1 (2011,
      March): 41-50 Now REMEMBER this is just America. In Russia, the average “COW” has between 8 to 10 abortions.”COWS” MAKE THE NAZIS LOOK LIKE BOY SCOUTS WHEN IT COMES TO SLAUGHTERING INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS!

    • Peter

      I entirely agree. Barbarians like this offend and insult all civilized women AND men. We work hard to be fair and open to all cultural and religious viewpoints but we should not confuse ignorant idiocy with valid diversity.

  • The Other Weirdo

    OK, I just read the National Post article that covered this story, and I didn’t realize this guy was a street preacher. Are any of them actually sane?  Also, I didn’t know that Toronto now has Muslim street preachers. Learnt something new, I guess.

  • Gaby A.

    This weekend should be fun…I live in Toronto and this piece of work “preaches” in front of our large downtown mall, the Eaton Center. I’ll try and see if I can get any video and pics should people – ahem – engage him.

  • Krwillis

    Okay… on that note, if women don’t want to be raped then all men should be locked up until they are “released” by a women who approves of them, since Al- Haashim implies all men have no morals or self-control. 

  • Pedro Lemos

    I guess by his logic, being alive is the cause of murders. There should be a law preventing people from being alive. These irresponsible politicians…

  • Manet

    Well the way he explains it, us men dont know how to control ourselves. Well im sorry but I evolved into a human beign and I have self control, respect, and a mind.

  • Melissa

    Wow!  This guy has a low opinion of men.  Does he really think that men cannot control themselves and their sexual urges around “provocatively” dressed women?  

  • Melissa

    Wow!  This guy has a low opinion of men.  Does he really think that men cannot control themselves and their sexual urges around “provocatively” dressed women?  

  • Apex
  • Pepe

    I’m hoping the 1000+ people who’ve voted on ‘He has a point.’ are all joking.

    • Salchikc

      You know they are not joking.  they are the muslims that are among us the ones that taught this man to this mind set.  The ones that brain washed him and made him muslim, his converters.  The very same ones that molded cat stevens and many other converts just like this mad man in this video.  They all pretend not to think the same as this man, but in fact in a room together or in front of their imams they will all preach the very same thing as this is their islam.

  • Anon
  • Guest

    How about men not raping women, eh? Maybe steel cage  “rape prevention underwear” in the form of a steel codpiece? 

  • Wat32

    It’s my understanding that in the Muslim world that many if not most rapes go unreported as the female victim could easily be labeled an adulterer, if the rapist was married, which is some of these countries carries a death sentence…… for her.  The problem is that these ideas are ingrained in their religious beliefs. These beliefs are rigid and any suggestion that they should be changed is tantamount to heresy.  I read a while back of several killings of politicians in Pakistan who wanted to have the blasphemy laws change.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/chidy/ chicago dyke, orphan

    the question is why the Sun would publish a lunatic’s comments like this. there are many lunatics and disturbed people out there with outrageous opinions. a major paper is under no compulsion to publish such garbage. this is tacit agreement with the nutbag’s statements. and much more violent than anything he alone could do to women. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

      YO Dick van Dyke,

      Have you ever listened to the BITCH, Sarah Silverman?

      She is a Talmudic Jewess, who would have been a victim of incest as a child.

      Sarah
      Silverman goes after Sheldon Adelson

      Sarah
      Silverman is at it again. On Monday, she
      released a video offering to perform a sex act on billionaire casino mogul
      Sheldon Adelson if he redirects his millions toward President Obama’s 2012
      reelection campaign and away from Mitt Romney. The producers of the video say
      they’ve beentaking heat from
      Jewish groups for targeting Adelson, who was in the news again this week for
      making a new $13 million donation to Birthright and
      for being the subject of a federal investigation. But, the producers say, their
      pro-Obama campaign — called the Great Schlep for the eponymous pro-Obama video
      Silverman did in 2008 — will continue. “The goal is to have Romney decide
      whether he wants to pervert democracy by taking funding from one individual who
      will have outsized influence on a majority of issues that are way outside of
      the mainstream of what most American Jews think,” said Great Schlep co-founder
      Ari Wallach.

      Sarah
      Silverman like millions of Jewish women was a victim of incest as a child!

      The Oedipus complex was the invention of Sigmund Freud!

       

      Freud originally discovered, in the treatments partially
      conducted under hypnosis, that all his patients, both male and female, had been
      abused children and recounted their histories in the language of symptoms.
      After reporting his discovery in psychiatric circles, he found himself
      completely shunned because none of his fellow psychiatrists was prepared to
      share the findings with him. Freud could not bear the isolation for long. A few
      months later, in 1897, he described his patients’ reports on sexual abuse as
      sheer fantasies attributable to their instinctual wishes.

         

      Freud’s father was a pedophile! In a letter to his friend
      Wilhelm Fliess, he wrote:

       “Unfortunately, my own father was one of
      these perverts and is responsible for the hysteria of my brother (all of whose
      symptoms are identifications) and those of several younger sisters. The
      frequency of this circumstance often makes me wonder.”

      Fliess’s son,
      Robert Fliess exposed his own father as being another paedophile, who had
      sexually abused him when he was a child.

       

      THE PEDOPHILE MANUAL

       

      The Talmud is Judaism’s
      holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence
      over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud
      itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition):

      “My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of
      the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament).”

      Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in “Judaism on
      Trial,” quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph:

       

      “Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to
      understand passages in the Bible … God has handed this authority to the sages
      and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made
      enactments of their own … anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot
      understand Scripture.”

       

      THE
      PEDOPHILE MESSIAH

      Second century Rabbi
      Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator
      of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even
      younger than three! He proclaimed, 

      “A proselyte who is
      under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” 1

      Yebamoth 60b,  

      Subsequent rabbis refer
      to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as “halakah,” or binding
      Jewish law. 2  Yebamoth 60b

      Has Rabbi ben Yohai,
      child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben
      Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of
      orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing
      and dancing in his memory.

      References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They
      occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are
      enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise
      Sanhedrin.

      The Pharisees Endorsed Child Sex

      The rabbis of the Talmud are notorious for their legal
      hairsplitting, and quibbling debates. But they share rare agreement about their
      right to molest three year old girls. In contrast to many hotly debated issues,
      hardly a hint of dissent rises against the prevailing opinion (expressed in
      many clear passages) that pedophilia is not only normal but scriptural as well!
      It’s as if the rabbis have found an exalted truth whose majesty silences
      debate.

      Because the Talmudic authorities who sanction pedophilia
      are so renowned, and because pedophilia as “halakah” is so explicitly
      emphasized, not even the translators of the Soncino edition of the Talmud
      (1936) dared insert a footnote suggesting the slightest criticism. They only
      comment: “Marriage, of course, was then at a far earlier age than now.” 3

      In fact, footnote 5 to Sanhedrin 60b rejects the right
      of a Talmudic rabbi to disagree with ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia:

      “How could they [the rabbis],
      contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon ben Yohai, which has scriptural support,
      forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?” 4

      1 Yebamoth 60b, p. 402. 

      2 Yebamoth 60b, p. 403. 

      3 Sanhedrin 76a. 

      4 In Yebamoth 60b, p. 404, Rabbi Zera disagrees that sex with girls under three
      years and one day should be endorsed as halakah. 

  • guest

    however marital rape would still occur if we adopted the Muslim culture (obviously not all muslims do so but the culture allows for it) of taking away women’s freedom so the problem would not be solved, what next shall we all be circumcised?

  • Baby_Raptor

    How about we start teaching men to not be animals?

    It’s not my job to control you. 

  • Anti-Islamist Canadian Female

    This is what Islam teaches, people. If it offends you, get off your asses & stop preaching ‘tolerance’ for Islam. This is what you’re tolerating. Women & men should both be insulted by this raving lunatic’s spewage.

    For any Muslim out there who is just itching to tell me to read the Quran, learn about Islam, live in a Muslim country etc, been there, done that. I’m an ex-Muslim atheist married to an ex-Muslim atheist and have spent well over a decade living amongst lunatics like this. The reason that statistics for rape are lower in Muslim countries is because women who have been raped are often forced to marry their rapists, or are stoned or hung to death for adultery. If the rape victims are not executed, they are often killed by their family members for bringing ‘shame’ to the family. Sharia law also demands that SEVERAL MEN BE WITNESS TO A RAPE for the claim to be justified. These are some of the many reasons rape is not reported anywhere near as much in Muslim countries as it is here. Because it’s dangerous for a woman to report being raped.

    This asshole should be thrown in jail for promoting rape. Or fuck off to a country where this shit is put up with. It’s bad enough I had to put up with listening to this asshattery while living overseas. Now I’ve got to listen to it in Canada. Fuck off, and hands off my body, my rights & my choice to dress as I see fit, Muhammad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/leonardo.delapaor Leonardo de la Paor

    YO Friendly Atheist,

    You say there is no God and that Homo sapiens are part of the ANIMAL kingdom!

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RAPE IN THE JUNGLE!

    THE BITCH COMES INTO HEAT & THE DOGS “RIDE” HER.

    YOU DON’T HEAR HER SHOUTING “RAPE”, BECAUSE 10 to 20 DOGS “RODE” HER!

    THE REASON THE HOMO SAPIEN BITCH CRIES “RAPE”, IS BECAUSE SHE IS NOT IN CONTROL!

    WHEN SHE IS IN CONTROL, SHE WILL ALLOW AN APE, A DOG, 3 “APES” WITH LARGE LANGERS, TO “RIDE ” HER!

    ITS ALL ABOUT LOSS OF CONTROL.

  • Gábor Biró

    I have one better: Women are raped because they leave the house. We should force them to stay indoors, that way they surely won’t get raped!
    Of course provocative dressing is a factor, of course we have to pay a price for our lifestyle. But these issues cannot be solved by taking away our liberties. That’s cowardice. We should solve them by improving education and striking down even harder on those who commit such atrocities.

    What’s next? Bowing for the demands of terrorists?

  • Salchikc

    Muslims bred to be psychopaths. Why oh why does the government continue to let them in. One day they say do not agree with extremism and the very next day they could be participating in it. We are too tolerate them but they are not tolerating us but rather putting us down in one way or another. Face it multiculturalism does not work out unless there is some familiar ground. At best there should be tougher questions asked before allowing anyone in like after asking ones faith ask them if they were to have children in this country how important it is to them that their children follow that faith, what type of education they would like to have for their children, their views on marrying outside of their faith, views on womens dress, how often they attend their place of worship, how deeply they believe in their faith, their views on other religions one by one listing them, then after being in Canada for awhile ask them what they would like to seen changed in Canada likes dislikes etc… and if they appear to have a higher preference to their own country kick em out. It is time steven harper tightened the laws of who should be allowed into Canada.  There is books sold in book stores and on the net on how to beat your new muslim bride for the muslims etc.. etc,,,, What everyone should be doing is writing and calling Harper to put an end to this madness.

  • Salchikc

    How about a new law that says anyone trying to change Canadian values and what Canada stands for (freedom) should be deported?  That should shut the morons up? Seriousl Steven Harper needs to do more to stop the spread of this virus of Islamism in Canada.  There is m any concerned Canadians, but Canadians sit on their hands and play the tolerance game. Concerns should be voiced, we should be heard not only Muslims voices should be constantly heard about so called discrimination. We are being walked on too much.  Give them an inch they want to take a mile.

  • http://twitter.com/MrMe51 Mr.Me

    What´s the problem ? You are finding out muslims are not the little pets you noble citizens of the developed world wanted to pat ?  Instead of getting the docile pets that they look like you instead got savage bests! If you don´t like what you import, return your imports!

  • dave

    Just another retard wondering the streets of Toronto , nothing new here.
    Assuming all men are potential rapists is ridiculous and not something  a ( thinking person ) would be saying.
    However he has freedom of speech , and as long as he does not bother women passing by or accost them he can babble till all he wants.
    i read that a Christian guy was trying to talk to him and he got his face slapped for his trouble.
    I’d like to see this guy try that on me .

  • dr b

    i think the western world should treat Muslim men like they treat Muslim women ban them from showing there face in public or speaking to anyone and not allowing them to go in public without a escort 

  • iAm Karma

    The truth of the matter is some men are Pigs, whether a Woman is covered or not their ill provocative uncontrolled swined sexual desires will not stop them from committing the evil act. Since when did it become normal for a man to rape a woman? Whether she is covered or not? You Don’t go to heaven by raping someone uncovered…. iThink this dude should be kicked in the balls repeatedly…

  • stopthemadness

    i call bulllshit!…to many ppl with stupid ideas in power..we should ask all women to become part of a special police unit and let them capture these assholes and do whatever they want with them!if men were scared this would happen to them they just might stop!

  • Damrémont

    It’s nice that he is so concerned about the women of the west that he is willing to share his gathered wisdom with us and feels that in doing so he can make the lives of westeners better. Muslims will do this because they feel the are morally superior to us in every way and its this same need to teach others how live that permits them to engage in aggression against those who are reluctant to submit to their doctrine. To us who live our lives with relative comfort because we know that the freedoms we enjoy are protected by our laws, this self righteous preacher is just a minor annoyance and he is easily dismissed since he saying something that is not really that different from an evangelical Xian. Where it becomes problematic is in muslim lands where over 40,000 have died in sectarian violence in Pakistan for example; mainly slow learners and innocent bystanders and other Muslim lands where whipping, chopping off of various body parts tends to underline the point they’re trying to make. All of these actions by barbarous and backward people serve to remind us of how important our freedoms are that we very easily take for granted and that evolved laws that fit us like a comfortable glove are more humane and gentle than the iron harness of an immutable and inflexible god that is more concerned with his needs than ours.

  • DrBubba

    These people need to be removed from the planet!


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