Guess Who’s Defending Rep. Todd Akin Now?

Kirk Cameron.

“He clearly is a pro-life advocate, and for that, I respect him,” said the former “Growing Pains” star, speaking on CNN’s “Starting Point.” “He said that he misspoke and that he misphrased something and that he apologized.”

“I’m the kind of person that believes that I would like to be evaluated by my entire career and my entire life, not two words that I would misspeak and then later apologize for,” he said. “So he’s in a tough spot.”

But this wasn’t just “two words.” It’s the fact that Akin still — even now — doesn’t want women to be allowed to have an abortion even in cases of rape (any rape). And the Republican Party is right behind him in their platform.

(via Christian Nightmares)

About Hemant Mehta

Hemant Mehta is the chair of Foundation Beyond Belief and a high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He began writing the Friendly Atheist blog in 2006. His latest book is called The Young Atheist's Survival Guide.

  • Randomfactor

    Cameron’s two words:  “Atheist banana. “

  • Guest

    “I’m the kind of person that believes that I would like to be evaluated by my entire career and my entire life, not two words that I would misspeak and then later apologize for”

    Fool.  It’s almost as if he doesn’t realize he’s living in the hip and enlightened 21st century.  People are there to be destroyed in order to advance our agendas, or be defended in order to advance our agendas.  That’s all.  That’s the sum total of their worth in our hip and enlightened 21st century age.  Meanwhile the ghosts of medieval peasants laugh at us for thinking we are any better or brighter than, well, medieval peasants.

    • Johann

      Speaking of fools, those peasants haven’t been laughing much ever since they got hacked to pieces in a bid to advance their neighboring lord’s agenda and landowning ambitions. Your petty posturing isn’t buying you any points with them.

      • Guest

        Which means we’ve improved the ways we take people out.  Do we kill and hack and slash today?  Nope.  Laws against it and all.  But really, that’s the only reason I believe we don’t see it happening.  Not because we’ve achieved some higher enlightened position.  But simply because the legal impositions prevent it.  Even so, those are only temporary.  We’ll have to see how long they hold given our growing tendency to see hatred and evil as defined by not agreeing with us.  By the by, this is not a left/right or religious/secular thing. It’s a 21st century thing where people can find that little niche of samethinkers who all insist we’re the superior innocent victims, and they (defined differently) are the baddies who are out to get us. 

        By the way, yours seems to be the typical appraisal of the middle ages that is a combination of Hollywood stereotypes and Monty Python films.  Imagine what the 20th century and 21st century will look like 500 years from now.

        • http://www.shadesthatmatter.blogspot.com asmallcontempt

          “Imagine what the 20th century and 21st century will look like 500 years from now.”

          We will all wonder why we let empty-headed ninnies like people who think that good/bad is entirely subjective legislate for us, making us all look like ass-backwards fools.
          But that’s just my future-ghost, speaking to you from 500 years in the future. 

    • Gus Snarp

      I propose that in the case of this repeat “Guest”, it is one of those times when the correct course is to ignore the troll.

      • Guest

        I just got tired of having to retype my name.  Guest comes up, that’s good enough for me.  Given how some have been treated on this blog who use names and dare to disagree with the zeitgeist, I’m not anxious to go out of my way to help with target practice.

        • Patterrssonn

          Didn’t you threaten to leave? Why are you still here?

        • Glasofruix

          Coward.

          (also you can get a disqus account)

          • Bo Tait

            I agree with you. But I’m guessing Glasofruix is not your name…

            • Glasofruix

              Nope, but at least i can be easily identified around here.

              • Bo Tait

                Fair enough, at least you can be linked back to your past posts whereas with Guest he/she could always dodge them and not stand behind them.

        • RebeccaSparks

          I don’t think it was the username that caused the ill treatment.  But having a disqus account is useful–easy to see when people reply, and more legible to read on the disqus dashboard than when it gets squeezed to ridiculously huge indents on the main page.

          When you say “how others are treated,” you’re taking about name calling and such?  No one’s getting their personal info posted on line or death threats/rape threats and such, right?

          • Patterrssonn

            I vote that it’s RW.

            • Piet

               That’s what I keep thinking. They share the same extemely irrational persecution complex.

            • RebeccaSparks

              If you’re right, do you win the internets?

      • Patterrssonn

        I think you’re wrong, it’s a great way to work on your snark. Not to mention the extra layer of anonymity entirely justifies a round of whack-a-troll whenever his little hairy head pops up.

    • Patterrssonn

      Try and get this through the thick haze of dogmatic inanity that clouds your otherwise empty head, he didn’t mispeak. His grotesque comment was just as intentional as every other grotesque shitbag comment he’s ever uttered.

      • RobMcCune

        All he’s going to say is “Persecution! Persecution!”, because ignoring that a member of congress trivialized rape suits his agenda.

    • Bo Tait

      Haha.  Guest believes in ghosts. That’s lame.

  • Sue Blue

    Kirk Cameron, mental midget and advocate of all things dumb and dumber, speaks!  Yeah, Akins is in a tough spot.  Boo-friggety-hoo.  I hope it gets so tight he figuratively suffocates.  This political poltroon has spent his career sharpening his misogynist stick; I don’t feel sorry for him when he “accidentally” sits on it.  

  • 00001000_bit

    I think The Onion article sums up the “I misspoke” claim quite nicely.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-misspokewhat-i-meant-to-say-is-i-am-dumb-as-dog,29256/?ref=auto

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com Holytape

    I hate it when people say they misspoke.  That implies that you subconsciously said the wrong name, time, or accidentally said something was when meant to say it wasn’t.   Akin clearly articulated his beliefs, and he gave the reason why.  He thought that women couldn’t get pregnant from rape.  He was wrong.  He didn’t misspeak.  He was wrong.    

    • Gus Snarp

      Nevermind. I was being repetitive.

    • Stev84

       He even said that he stands by what he really meant. Which is still reprehensible

    • Alchemist

      Yup. If he’d men could’t get pregnant, that would a case of misspeaking.
      What he said, and continues to say, is just hateful, ignorant and twisted.

      When he said he misspoke, what meant to say was “What? Do I have something in my teeth?”

  • Gus Snarp

    It seems like I’m not hearing a lot of people pick up on the essential fact that Akin just doesn’t get it. He actually seems to think that the problem with what he said is the word “legitimate”, when the real problem is that he essentially thinks that there’s rape rape, and then there’s sluts making excuses. Not to mention his unbelievable lack of understanding of human reproductive biology. It’s not the words, it’s the mind numbing ignorance.

    Of course, why would he think his contemptible ideas are the problem? He’s not worried about liberals and heathens disagreeing with him, he’s wondering why his Republican friends are turning on him for saying the same things they write legislation based on. Clearly they agree with him, so it must just be that he called rape “legitimate”.

    Meanwhile, he’s at least proven why we need comprehensive sex education in schools.

    • John Purcell

       Yes. Ignorance. I just wrote a whole blog post on it.

    • RebeccaSparks

      I like Erin Gloria Ryan Jez’s take on the whole thing…
      “Yep, Todd Akin thinks people are mad at the word “legitimate,” not the fact that he seriously seems to think that if he had said any other word it would have made any goddamn difference.Let’s take a look at the quote and replace the word “legitimate” with “forcible,” which is presumably what Akin meant.It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a forcible rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.Hm… nope. Still fucking astoundingly awful.Let’s try it again, with a nicer word.It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a glittery rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.Still just about the worst!”http://jezebel.com/5936708/todd-akin-thinks-america-is-mad-at-his-use-of-the-word-legitimate 

      • pagansister

         What he UNDERSTOOD from doctors??? What doctors would that be?  Good Grief!   I would not want to be patient of any doctor who would tell someone that—somehow I don’t think any doctor told him anything of the kind—it’s his own stupidity that caused the “understanding” he has.

    • JDinbigD

      According to his thinking, the killing of an abortion doctor would be “legitimate” murder.

    • SeniorSkeptik

       What really bothers me is that this neanderthal has been re-elected five times by his similarly lame brained constituents.

  • onamission5

    Cameron coming to someone’s aid is a litmus test of sorts. The second he appears, defending you on tv, it’s time to hang your head in shame and slink away.

  • Jessica

    Fucking Kirk Cameron.  WHO KEEPS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS?!  MAKE THEM STOP!

    • http://www.travismamone.net/ Travis Mamone

       I guess the media thinks that Cameron, alone, speaks for the entire Christian community. Thank God/FSM/human logic that he doesn’t!

      • David Allred

        I see nothing wrong with the media thinking that he is their spokesman.  It just helps clarify how insane the beliefs are.

      • Pascale Laviolette

        Let’s just hope that this douchenozzle of a mouthpiece convinces some moderate Xtians to drop the title all together for fear of being associated.

        • http://www.travismamone.net/ Travis Mamone

          Sometimes I think I’m more suited to be a Unitarian.  Right now I’m somewhere in between a Unitarian and a liberal Christian.

  • Blitzgal

    Actually, for once Cameron is right.  We should be judging Akins on his entire history.  And his entire congressional history tells me that he is a crackpot who has no business legislating anything.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PLATGOENNSUFUC2IDIQC3Q64MQ M. Foe

      Exactly. Where was the national outrage when he said the same thing about marital/spousal rape to a journalist who actually called him out on it?

    • John Purcell

       Religion and politics not only don’t mix, they should not mix. Akin has a Master of Divinity degree from a theological seminary. Why are we electing religious people to secular offices? Why are we not electing qualified administrators and legislators? Until we start winnowing out these nutcases from the elective process, we get what we elect, and we shouldn’t complain.

  • Chris Kilroy

    Why the hell do we care what some washed up former child actor thinks about these kinds of things? Since when does Kirk Cameron’s opinion matter on jack? 

  • Momo

    Wait, I wasn’t aware Kirk Cameron was relevant. He “…would like to be evaluated by [his] entire career”? What, as little Mikey Seaver? Who gives a flying flip what he thinks?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/47IDX2QAR6VU6ZAILFU6I23ACQ Joseph

      And don’t forget his significant body of work in the “Left Behind” series.  It’s truly a shame that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has not recognized his important contributions as an actor.  But they’re just a bunch of liberal asshats anyway, right?

  • http://www.travismamone.net/ Travis Mamone

    Dear Kirk Cameron,

    GO AWAY!!!

    Sincerely,
    Everyone

  • The Captain

    I’m starting to think Akin was a genius and the republicans evil geniuses. Ever since his stupid comments and the GOP platform vote all that has been screamed about from the pro-choice crowed is how they oppose abortion for rape victims. Well so the hell what? What matters is that they would restrict abortion for ANYONE, rape victim or not. That’s the fight people!

    But awesome, like everything else these assholes said outrageous things that then framed the entire debate in their favor and the pro-choice crowed walked right into it.

  • http://winlb.wordpress.com/ ToonForever

    He didn’t “misspeak”  He regurgitated a well-worn lie about women, about rape victims, because he believed it.

  • http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/ PsiCop

    Definitely it was NOT only about “two words.” Akin said far more than that. He presented supposed medical information … e.g that women’s reproductive systems shut down during/after rape … that hasn’t been shown to be true. And he added details about it … saying that “doctors had told him” so. He not only spewed idiocy, he  elaborated on the idiocy in an effort to grant it authority that he knew it did not have.

    What’s really remarkable is that pretty much everyone has let him get away with this. Everyone, including Akin, has focused on the phrase “legitimate rape” (which is quite bad enough by itself) and granted him a pass on his pseudomedical fantasy. Who’s bothered to ask him which doctors told him about women’s bodies and rape? No one.

    Time for the media to wake up and really explore everything this moron said … and call him to account for all of it, not just some of it.

  • Dave Roscoe

    What is this apology bullshit? He didn’t apologize, he simply clarified what he meant – “legitimate” as in “forcibly”, not as in “legal” or “sanctioned”. How many people thought he meant “legitimate” as in “legal” or “sanctioned”? I’m guessing not many.

  • Jonas

    Well it’s not just that he misspoke ‘legitimate rape’ for maybe I’m thinking ‘Forcible Rape, by a Stranger’ — But that he made up some crackpot science to go along with it. As I commented in another thread on this. – Todd Akin mistakes Humans for Ducks. 

    (Oh and in some cases raped female ducks take their own lives, as a result) ** Science Fact DuJour)

    Now as one who does not understand why the media and lawmakers itemize Incest as a special case — I must disagree with the people who simplify things and saw ‘Rape is Rape’ as the counter point. — Date Rape — Serious mis-communication by the two partners involved. Father Daughter Rape, along with Clergy / Alter Boy, or other assault — Betrayal of Trust.

    As Harcourt Fenton Mudd might say however –
    “The Keyword is R.R.R…Rape’
      

  • Alchemist

    What a twat.

  • Margaret Whitestone

    So Kirk’s anti-choice as well as anti-gay.  No surprise.

  • Gunstargreen

    Why is Kirk Cameron’s opinion still relevant to the media? Why was it ever?

  • pagansister

    Some one has probably said this–but why does anyone care what a former TV actor says anyway?  What makes him an expert on anything political or religious?  Nothing as far as I know.  Much of my life has been spent without even remembering that Kirk is on this planet.  (or is he?) 

  • Aaron Scoggin

    Two words? No, it’s not like he slipped up and misspoke. He said those things because he believed them. It’s not as if he used the wrong word for what he meant – He literally meant what he said. 


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